ID - Robert Manwill, 8, Boise, 24 July 2009 - #4

[nursebeeme]

I'm telling ya, it wasn't a typo. The reporter specified the GRANDDAUGHTER told Senior that his son was at Intermountain. Who has confirmed that he was a "boyfriend"? And who has confirmed they have a child together (MJ and DE,jr)?

Ok, now I see it. Granddaughter? Hmm...I must say the reporting on this case has got me confused. The Statesman article about the interview with Wallis and the Ehrlich's was confusing enough...now this. Melissa would be Senior's daughter, not granddaughter. Unless Daniel, jr has a daughter...?

UD, I will have to go back in the threads to find the link for you..... but Junior (maybe what we should refer to him as) has another child (iirc it IS a daughter) that is not allowed to be anywhere near him....

On another note.. I think the whole thing with M being a sister to Junior is just shoddy reporting.... (I am shaking my head too! I feel like I am back in a Breck commercial LOL)

 

[doobiedoo52]

The picture shows the LE's arms--looks like a body bag and maybe a sheet laying over it to me.
Also, I agree with whoever said Ehrlick gave the 9:30 time to allow for Melissa being home when it happened. I think she covered his butt the last time with the skull fracture and he's going to try to blame it on her again. JMO

 

[nursebeeme]

I believe Daniel is the brother of BF, but don't quote me!

Daniel "senior"= dad who made statements to the press and took money to his son Junior...

Daniel "Junior"= who lives with Melissa...and is reported by his brother David as being a stay at home dad and mistreating Robert in the press. He has been admitted to a psyche hospital since this went down.

David= brother to Junior and also a son of senior

hope I got that right... if I didn't someone please stop me!

 

[LaLaw2000]

Just blew up the pix and took a look - there is a black band of some sort around the wrist area. The body does not look decomposed to me but then again I have never seen a decomposed body - nope, this is not decomposed imo. What do you all think?

ETA: Add the link: http://www.idahostatesman.com/397/gallery/848267-a854895-t2.html

Yes, I do see the black band. I also agree that the body was not decomposed too badly. There is the white t-shirt the BF's Dad had spoken of. There does not appear to be pants on the body. I know this is morbid and hard to speak of. That is why I have to call it a body rather than Robert.

I further believe that the body was transported in Wallis' Surburban.

I am sorry, everyone, to speak of such morbid details.

 

[Spyglass]

What I'm looking at is limbs going UP (legs left, arms right?), not the arms of rescuers which are going down. There certainly appears to be dark bands on both ankle and wrist when blown up 400%.

 

[nursebeeme]

This is a touch one. I can now see a little of what was seen by others, but I dont think its part of the blue guys shirt. I was trying to follow shirts and on that one it looked like it went from blue to skin color then to white.

The top of what looks to be a hand with a black band looks like it meets right where the elbow of the blue shirt guy is.

Hey Native! if you follow the black band UP you will see just below it (and it seems connected to the same limb) is a glove... what do you think....it IS late! I think my eyes are crossed!

 

[elepher50]

If you look down at the man in the green shirt on the right hand side , the one kneeling down, and then look between him and the man in the blue shirt torwards the ground it is forming a V there, ( I believe these are Roberts arms) right in the middle of that V. I can see blonde hair and a face right there.

When I look at http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=202-0804_local_bodyB_embedded_prod_.jpg

at the V between the two men (blue and green) yes there is a face there or what appears to be a face.

ETA: Thanks for the photobucket AIMEE

 

[FifthEssence]

I agree.. and IF (if if if if if if iffff ....did I say if?) he had a drug problem in the past and was being watched by LE over the last 11 days and couldn't score... that could also be the reason for his admission... detox... just a thought...

Or methadone....don't they give that to known junkies so they can come off the street stuff in hopes of weaning them off it?

 

[LaLaw2000]

I had a conversation about this photo with someone yesterday. For some reason I am not able to make anything out of this photo with all the people there. If someone could blow it up and maybe edit some arrows into the photo pointing at things in question it would help. I tried to blow it up and lost clarity

It was me, Idaho-native, and you were kind enough to locate the pic for me as I could not find it again.

I see the same things I thought I saw in the pic. I would do what you ask except that I cannot post links. I am not as computer saavy as most here. I spent years writing out reports and filling out forms on computer, but not copying, pasting, or posting links! (I was a Booking/Classification Lt. - just an old granny now!) I have booked on paper and rolled plenty of prints in my time, then taught the Golden Eagle Law Enforcement program and AFIS to new booking officers, but can't post a link!

 

[Idaho-native]

Hey Native! if you follow the black band UP you will see just below it (and it seems connected to the same limb) is a glove... what do you think....it IS late! I think my eyes are crossed!

My eyes are screaming at me to stop focusing so hard. I've looked so hard that everything is starting to run together. I think I may try again tomorrow when my eyes are well rested

 

[nursebeeme]

Or methadone....don't they give that to known junkies so they can come off the street stuff in hopes of weaning them off it?

Yes.... methadone is used for Crystal meth users

 

[nursebeeme]

My eyes are screaming at me to stop focusing so hard. I've looked so hard that everything is starting to run together. I think I may try again tomorrow when my eyes are well rested

Me too Native! Me too! I am just so pi$$ed that this happened to this little boy! Dang it! I hope this not turn into another Neveah Buchanan case where we are STILL waiting for justice. My last thought before signing out tonight is thinking positive thoughts for SWIFT JUSTICE! Nite everyone... you guys are AWESOME... EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU!

 

[elepher50]

Using AIMEE's blow up pix - have marked arrows where I think people are seeing things in Picture 4:

 

[LaLaw2000]

Using AIMEE's blow up pix - have marked arrows where I think people are seeing things in Picture 4:

Thanks, elepher50. I hope I am wrong, but I do think it is a small body with a white t-shirt on. I do have old eyes that have seen too much. We will find out in time, I suppose.

This was just my opinion anyway.

 

[UnderDog]

I see a pale blue shirt, possibly white. A black band on the wrist/forearm. No face at all. No legs at all. Is this relevant?

 

[tiredblondy]

http://www.idahostatesman.com/397/gallery/848267-a854895-t2.html

When you go to the link above and then go to the next picture #5, you can see the white gloves the men with the blue and green shirts were wearing. I'm wondering if it is the distortion of the light on their gloves. I also wonder if the fellow with the blue shirt is wearing a watch with a black band?

 

[LaLaw2000]

I see a pale blue shirt, possibly white. A black band on the wrist/forearm. No face at all. No legs at all. Is this relevant?

BBM

No, not really, and I apologize that I got so hung up on it.

 

[mysticrose]

So I have been watching some of the pressers that first came out on Robert. Melissa and BF are in them. Mom truly looks upset to me like in a daze. BF on the other hand is very very figidty and is the only one that I can see who keeps shaking his head yes especially when LE says the importance of finding Robert...jmo

 

[mysticrose]

Jim Kurns the LE that does the press conference's is really good at that. He is very proffesional and his voice is calmiing.

 

[A_Closer_Look]

RIP little guy
Run free. Play free.
God knows you were never given the chance to do those things in your short life here.
No more pain little buddy.