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[DeeDee249]

But those ligatures were nearly a foot and a half apart. She wasn't really restrained. I just don't see anything tied that loosely as something that can be used to move someone around. She was a 6-year old. An adult could just have grabbed her by the arm and marched her downstairs. Those spiral stairs would have been hard to navigate, too, pulling a kid with a nylon cord around her wrists.

 

[coloradokares]

Of course the ligatures had to be on her to carry her. What are you going to do, ask her to go to the basement nicely, carrying her with her arms and legs free? All while not waking up anybody. U gotta b kiddn me. Remember that ligatures were in fact found on her wrist. She was restrained at some point.

Do you post on other forums under a different hat , you remind me of a different poster.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

But those ligatures were nearly a foot and a half apart. She wasn't really restrained. I just don't see anything tied that loosely as something that can be used to move someone around. She was a 6-year old. An adult could just have grabbed her by the arm and marched her downstairs. Those spiral stairs would have been hard to navigate, too, pulling a kid with a nylon cord around her wrists.

How do you know the ligatures were always a foot and a half apart. They were slip knots, remember?

How does an adult grabbing JBR by the arm and marching her downstairs work with 3 other people sleeping nearby? Who said they used the spiral stairs? Who said JBR would have to be pulled?

 

[DeeDee249]

Of course, a parent could easily carry her without restraining her....

 

[rashomon]

Hellllooo? I'm standing right here...if you have a question regarding my statement...ask meeee.

I looked through the archives but have not found my source. Several other posters posted the same thing but I believe that it was evidence revealed that is not in any of the books published. It was after-the-fact.

I'll keep looking though.

I can't remember any source for that either. It has been posted now and then on forums but without a reliable source given (if I recall correctly).

Just as it has been posted that the rope found in John Andrew's room was of the same type as the ligature used on JonBenet. But the composition of this rope is totally different from the ligature - it looks like a hemp rope.
There's a picture of the rope in the photo section of this site: page 4, bottom right hand corner:

http://www.realsundancekid.com/

 

[rashomon]

Of course the ligatures had to be on her to carry her. What are you going to do, ask her to go to the basement nicely, carrying her with her arms and legs free? All while not waking up anybody. U gotta b kiddn me. Remember that ligatures were in fact found on her wrist. She was restrained at some point.

Those clumsily done wrist ligatures wouldn't have restrained a two-year-old.

 

[IrishMist]

Of course the ligatures had to be on her to carry her. What are you going to do, ask her to go to the basement nicely, carrying her with her arms and legs free? All while not waking up anybody. U gotta b kiddn me. Remember that ligatures were in fact found on her wrist. She was restrained at some point.

Where does the pineapple fit in?

 

[icedtea4me]

Hellllooo? I'm standing right here...if you have a question regarding my statement...ask meeee.

I looked through the archives but have not found my source. Several other posters posted the same thing but I believe that it was evidence revealed that is not in any of the books published. It was after-the-fact.

I'll keep looking though.

Fibers from the cord used to tie JonBenet's arms were found in the bedsheets (DOI pg. 386, pb version).


-Tea

 

[icedtea4me]

Of course she was. Cord fibers in the bed suggest the cord was used to forcibly remove her from her bed. These fibers found in the bed are a problem for almost any RDI, because there's no scenario that places the cord in JBR's bedroom for any purpose.

The cord fibers found in her bed aren't any problem for me as I attribute their presence to secondary, not direct, transfer.


-Tea

 

[rashomon]

Fibers from the cord used to tie JonBenet's arms were found in the bedsheets (DOI pg. 386, pb version).


-Tea

Ah, I see - it was in DOI.

Those alleged fibers from the cord are not listed among the evidence collected in the search warrants.

 

[rashomon]

How do you know the ligatures were always a foot and a half apart. They were slip knots, remember?

Where does it say they wrist ligatures were slip knots? What is your source for this?

 

[coloradokares]

Ah, I see - it was in DOI.

Those alleged fibers from the cord are not listed among the evidence collected in the search warrants.

I thought we had asked for credible proof not self serving fiction. If it was not listed amongst the collected evidence in the search warrants. I have reservations grave doubt, imagine that:crazy:

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Where does it say they wrist ligatures were slip knots? What is your source for this?

http://www.truthinjustice.org/ramsey.htm

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The cord fibers found in her bed aren't any problem for me as I attribute their presence to secondary, not direct, transfer.


-Tea

The type of cord fiber transfer should be of no relevance to RDI, because the cord itself was already casually dismissed as only a prop not capable of restraining anybody, not used to strangle JBR, not used to force her to the basement.

 

[BOESP]

The type of cord fiber transfer should be of no relevance to RDI, because the cord itself was already casually dismissed as only a prop not capable of restraining anybody, not used to strangle JBR, not used to force her to the basement.

Sweeping generalizations are a fallacy of argument.

 

[icedtea4me]

I thought we had asked for credible proof not self serving fiction. If it was not listed amongst the collected evidence in the search warrants. I have reservations grave doubt, imagine that:crazy:

Whatever.


-Tea

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Sweeping generalizations are a fallacy of argument.

So is circular reasoning.

 

[icedtea4me]

The type of cord fiber transfer should be of no relevance to RDI, because the cord itself was already casually dismissed as only a prop not capable of restraining anybody, not used to strangle JBR, not used to force her to the basement.

Nonetheless, it was still used.


-Tea

 

[BOESP]

So is circular reasoning.

I agree. I try not to practice either one. :dance:

 

[IrishMist]

Of course the ligatures had to be on her to carry her. What are you going to do, ask her to go to the basement nicely, carrying her with her arms and legs free? All while not waking up anybody. U gotta b kiddn me. Remember that ligatures were in fact found on her wrist. She was restrained at some point.

(I asked this earlier, but I'm afraid the question got buried in the discussion.)

Where does the pineapple fit into this scenario?