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[coloradokares]

These are Tricia's own words taken from a previous thread>



Hope this helps. Feel free to PM me if it doesn't.

I applaud this and thankyou. I have long been a Champion of Fleet Whites coming from Colorado. The post was misread and I thought the "he" of the post in question was JR and we were being told not to discuss him!! This has not only helped but made my day!!

 

[IrishMist]

I applaud this and thankyou. I have long been a Champion of Fleet Whites coming from Colorado. The post was misread and I thought the "he" of the post in question was JR and we were being told not to discuss him!! This has not only helped but made my day!!

Thanks to JBR Mod for clarifying... that must be why they get paid the big bucks!

 

[coloradokares]

Thanks to JBR Mod for clarifying... that must be why they get paid the big bucks!

If they collected in a piggy bank all my two cents worth theyd be rollin in it:dance: I am nothing if not a loud mouth

 

[BOESP]

If I remember correctly, it is a lay off Fleet White policy. A policy I applaud 100%.

In Georgia, while surrounded by JonBenet's relatives, he stood up for JonBenet. And really, he was the only one standing. :clap:

I'd sure agree to that. If it had been me killed and somebody took up for me like Fleet White took up for JonBenet, my dad would have been publicly thanking him while shaking his hand and patting his back.

 

[BOESP]

The garrote and looped ligature found on JBR was capable of moving her from her bedroom to the basement. Thats quite a capability, casually written off by RDI as a mere prop.

If I remember correctly, weren't the rope fibers in JonBenet's bed consistent with rope from John Andrew's bedroom but not consistent with the rope/cord used to tie JonBenet?

I would certainly think if JonBenet were killed upstairs it would be easier to work with her body on the bed than on the floor, but that's just me. I can't deduce she was dead or alive or restrained for staging or for restraint while alive by just seeing that fibers were in the bed, let alone fibers not consistent with the cord she in which she was found bound.

 

[Toltec]

If I remember correctly, weren't the rope fibers in JonBenet's bed consistent with rope from John Andrew's bedroom but not consistent with the rope/cord used to tie JonBenet?

I would certainly think if JonBenet were killed upstairs it would be easier to work with her body on the bed than on the floor, but that's just me. I can't deduce she was dead or alive or restrained for staging or for restraint while alive by just seeing that fibers were in the bed, let alone fibers not consistent with the cord she in which she was found bound.

NO. The fibers on JB's bed were consistent with the cord fibers used to strangle JonBenet and tie her up.

 

[BOESP]

NO. The fibers on JB's bed were consistent with the cord fibers used to strangle JonBenet and tie her up.

Thanks, Toltec.

 

[coloradokares]

If I remember correctly, weren't the rope fibers in JonBenet's bed consistent with rope from John Andrew's bedroom but not consistent with the rope/cord used to tie JonBenet?

I would certainly think if JonBenet were killed upstairs it would be easier to work with her body on the bed than on the floor, but that's just me. I can't deduce she was dead or alive or restrained for staging or for restraint while alive by just seeing that fibers were in the bed, let alone fibers not consistent with the cord she in which she was found bound.

I want to see where the fibers in Jon Benets bed were the same as that used to garrote her. I like you remember them as being the same as the rope in John Andrews room, But I am willing to await a credible source for refreshment of memory. I cant find that I have that handy in a quick review of my articles and links . I really want a link not just a quick opinion on this as memories can get fuzzy. Thanks in advance CK

 

[coloradokares]

NO. The fibers on JB's bed were consistent with the cord fibers used to strangle JonBenet and tie her up.

I dont have perfect recall but I dont remember it quite that way Toltec. I really hate to bother you for a link but may I thanks in advance .

 

[BOESP]

I dont have perfect recall but I dont remember it quite that way Toltec. I really hate to bother you for a link but may I thanks in advance .

CK, we make a great team. I meant to ask Toltec for a source too but forgot. Good thing I'm retired.

 

[coloradokares]

CK, we make a great team. I meant to ask Toltec for a source too but forgot. Good thing I'm retired.

There is nothing wrong with asking for a link or source. There is so much inaccuracy out there that been passed along time and again as fact that has been disproven and some is so far fectched it has to be made up as they go along I swear. Not saying at all the information we received on this was inaccurate. I dont recall it that way. But it is approriate for discussion and accuracy to either provide a link or say its an opinion whatever but when we state something as fact we need to provide reasonable verification. It cant hurt to ask! I have found inaccuracy in some of the links that have been provided and some books should have been published as fiction!!

 

[Toltec]

Hellllooo? I'm standing right here...if you have a question regarding my statement...ask meeee.

I looked through the archives but have not found my source. Several other posters posted the same thing but I believe that it was evidence revealed that is not in any of the books published. It was after-the-fact.

I'll keep looking though.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

If I remember correctly, weren't the rope fibers in JonBenet's bed consistent with rope from John Andrew's bedroom but not consistent with the rope/cord used to tie JonBenet?

I would certainly think if JonBenet were killed upstairs it would be easier to work with her body on the bed than on the floor, but that's just me. I can't deduce she was dead or alive or restrained for staging or for restraint while alive by just seeing that fibers were in the bed, let alone fibers not consistent with the cord she in which she was found bound.

It really doesn't matter if fibers matched fibers, as far as the garrote and looped ligature's capability is concerned. The fact is, the garrote and looped ligature together are capable of moving JBR from her bedroom to the basement, against her will. This capability would be required by an intruder, not a parent.

 

[DeeDee249]

JMO8778,

The cord found on JonBenet was made from nylon, the fibers found on the bed were non-nylon, probably hemp in origin?


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Yes, I thought I read about the rope fibers being from a thick hemp rope. There was such a rope found in a paper bag.It was found in the adjoining bedroom.
There is a sweet photo of JBR in jeans and checked blouse, with braids in her hair. She is reclining, and lying near her legs is a thick hemp rope, the kind you'd associate with cowboys & cowgirls, a "lasso" type rope. The photo had a country/Western feel, and I think the rope was used as a prop to add to that.

Cookie, do you recall the photo I mean? Was it one of yours?

 

[Cranberry]

Hellllooo? I'm standing right here...if you have a question regarding my statement...ask meeee.

I looked through the archives but have not found my source. Several other posters posted the same thing but I believe that it was evidence revealed that is not in any of the books published. It was after-the-fact.

I'll keep looking though.

was it the parachute cord document shown last year?

 

[BOESP]

It really doesn't matter if fibers matched fibers, as far as the garrote and looped ligature's capability is concerned. The fact is, the garrote and looped ligature together are capable of moving JBR from her bedroom to the basement, against her will. This capability would be required by an intruder, not a parent.

Holdon, you incorrectly assume my comments and question about the rope concerned the "capability" of the rope. My interest is in determining where the rope came from.

Also, you must not have access to children or else the ones you are around are well-behaved. Not all children obediently obey their parents.

 

[DeeDee249]

How would the ligature move her around? If she was dragged, there would be much more bruising evidence on the body. Every investigator has said that the wrist loops, especially, were not capable of restraining a living (and awake) child. And if she was not awake, she'd have to be carried or dragged. The carry part IS possible. Not the dragging. And the ligatures did not have to be on her to carry her.

 

[coloradokares]

Hellllooo? I'm standing right here...if you have a question regarding my statement...ask meeee.

I looked through the archives but have not found my source. Several other posters posted the same thing but I believe that it was evidence revealed that is not in any of the books published. It was after-the-fact.

I'll keep looking though.

We did and We look forward to the source

 

[coloradokares]

We did and We look forward to the source

Start with post 909

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

How would the ligature move her around? If she was dragged, there would be much more bruising evidence on the body. Every investigator has said that the wrist loops, especially, were not capable of restraining a living (and awake) child. And if she was not awake, she'd have to be carried or dragged. The carry part IS possible. Not the dragging. And the ligatures did not have to be on her to carry her.

Of course the ligatures had to be on her to carry her. What are you going to do, ask her to go to the basement nicely, carrying her with her arms and legs free? All while not waking up anybody. U gotta b kiddn me. Remember that ligatures were in fact found on her wrist. She was restrained at some point.