IF Ronald Cumming Is Involved in Harming Haleigh What is His Motive? *LIST*

[RoseRed]

The stop on the way home makes me think he found out something bad during the course of the evening, or suspected it, and decided to create an alibi.
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I totally disagree with all the theroies about the store stop being an alibi. As a smoker I know for a fact a stop at the store to pick up cigarettes happens every day by people who smoke. Nothing out of the ordinary and is common practise so to speak.

 

[grandmaj]

We are taking a fast turn at the s curve. Motive more than theory please! Back to Motive!

 

[cluciano63]

I totally disagree with all the theroies about the store stop being an alibi. As a smoker I know for a fact a stop at the store to pick up cigarettes happens every day by people who smoke. Nothing out of the ordinary and is common practise so to speak.

I only think this because of the number(s) of phone calls that have been reported...anywhere from 20-90 and think he must have suspected something was up and possibly even knew exactly what was going on and needed to be on camera...just an opinion. I know that lots of people do stop at c-stores on way home from work, that in itself is not odd, but w/the calls, makes me wonder.

 

[Hippy Chick]

She and 'they' certainly would if 'they' were involved in the crime WITH Ron. It's simple.

You have to look at it like they would. The Croslins and Misty would cover for him while covering for themselves.

These people are facing the death penalty and by this time some deal would have been offered to them, Accesory, manslaughter, abuse of a corpse anything offered to them would seem appealing with a murder one rap hanging over their heads. I think they would have confessed their part and taken the lesser charge. I am sure this has been laid out to them by LE. I just can't see them not saving their selves..... if in fact RC is the guilty

 

[Lake Erie Princess]

Ron seems to have a very short fuse, and has stated some unforgiveable threats on record !

He needs no motive. He has a temper in need of serious anger management IMO !:twocents:

 

[Brwnigirl]

The only reason I would believe is drugs or Haleigh getting into his drugs, and he wouldn't throw her into a river, but would bury her.

Remember?? Ron is the alligator expert! He knows all about their habits, according to the tapes we have heard.
I think it is the first place he would put her.

 

[SoSueMe]

If he is involved, and if Misty is covering for him, why would she have refused to answer all those calls that night? I don't believe he was involved, unless it was a terrible accident, so if that is the case, why would Misty be implicating her brother and cousin and not Ronald? Unless she hates her family more than she loves Ronald.
Well... that actually makes sense, doesn't it? Women are sometimes twisted when it comes to their men.

[BBM]

I've come to believe it is Ron covering for Misty. The motive? He told her to give Haleigh something that night to make her sleep and it was Ron's illegal drugs that she gave her. Ron knows he's complicit in the crime.

As to why Misty didn't pick up the phone? I think she was busy with the task at hand. Perhaps she went with whoever was getting rid of the evidence and left her phone at the mobile home. This girl isn't exactly the type to plan ahead.

I don't think Misty will ever break. She can't because she is the one who gave something to Haleigh. Ron can't break because he's the one who told her to give Haleigh something and it was an illegal drug.

For those who think a druggie wouldn't waste their precious stash on a child, I disagree. As a rule they wouldn't, but a one time, I'm pretty desperate here, I need sleep and this child won't go to bed type thing? Yeah. It would also depend on the quantity of their supply at the time. If they had enough on hand, yeah, I think they would give her something. I think Misty maybe mistakenly gave her an Oxy or didn't follow Ron's instructions as to what or how much to give her.

Ron blames Misty and Misty feels obligated to Ron for killing one of his children. Misty doesn't realize that Ron would be at fault also.

That's my take. No motive, pure accident.

 

[SoSueMe]

She and 'they' certainly would if 'they' were involved in the crime WITH Ron. It's simple.

You have to look at it like they would. The Croslins and Misty would cover for him while covering for themselves.

Agree, and vice versa Badme.

 

[madeleine]

I do believe that he was involved somehow (rage attack,accident,cover-up,maybe more,dunno) but I can't think of a motive because for now I don't think it was premeditated.

 

[debs]

I only think this because of the number(s) of phone calls that have been reported...anywhere from 20-90 and think he must have suspected something was up and possibly even knew exactly what was going on and needed to be on camera...just an opinion. I know that lots of people do stop at c-stores on way home from work, that in itself is not odd, but w/the calls, makes me wonder.

It should matter that he passed 4 other Kangaroo stores to stop at the one which is situated near the Shell Harbor Way exit off 309. Beer and peanuts and cigarettes at 3 in the morning aren't felonious, but it is suspicious that he bypassed 4 other stores.

Motive doesn't have to apply to the death of Haleigh; it could very well be in the cover-up of her death, if those involved were in the process of committing another felony when she accidentally died.

 

[Baznme]

[BBM]

I've come to believe it is Ron covering for Misty. The motive? He told her to give Haleigh something that night to make her sleep and it was Ron's illegal drugs that she gave her. Ron knows he's complicit in the crime.

As to why Misty didn't pick up the phone? I think she was busy with the task at hand. Perhaps she went with whoever was getting rid of the evidence and left her phone at the mobile home. This girl isn't exactly the type to plan ahead.

I don't think Misty will ever break. She can't because she is the one who gave something to Haleigh. Ron can't break because he's the one who told her to give Haleigh something and it was an illegal drug.

For those who think a druggie wouldn't waste their precious stash on a child, I disagree. As a rule they wouldn't, but a one time, I'm pretty desperate here, I need sleep and this child won't go to bed type thing? Yeah. It would also depend on the quantity of their supply at the time. If they had enough on hand, yeah, I think they would give her something. I think Misty maybe mistakenly gave her an Oxy or didn't follow Ron's instructions as to what or how much to give her.

Ron blames Misty and Misty feels obligated to Ron for killing one of his children. Misty doesn't realize that Ron would be at fault also.

That's my take. No motive, pure accident.

I just read your post and thought.....OMG.....there it is.....it's so simple and makes complete sense. I think this is what happened but....the coverup has a story all its' own. There was no motive for her demise but there is for the coverup = Not to be held responsible for her death.

 

[debs]

The only problem with the theory that Ron told Misty to give Haleigh something is.....It could easily devolve into a he said/she said, and since she's definitely not trustworthy, he'd have come out on top of that one. I still suggest there was something going on and whatever it was puts Ron into committing a felony act, and while Haleigh's death might be deemed an accidental one, he'll still be complicit in her death and for 15 months nearly, he's been trying to skate on a homicide charge, thinking only God can judge him for the accident.

 

[abbygale31250]

Do anyone think,Maybe the gun went off & hit Haleigh ,By accident and they all did not no what to do

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The only problem with the theory that Ron told Misty to give Haleigh something is.....It could easily devolve into a he said/she said, and since she's definitely not trustworthy, he'd have come out on top of that one. I still suggest there was something going on and whatever it was puts Ron into committing a felony act, and while Haleigh's death might be deemed an accidental one, he'll still be complicit in her death and for 15 months nearly, he's been trying to skate on a homicide charge, thinking only God can judge him for the accident.

Wasn't Ron supposed to have said to Misty one time to "make Haleigh mind?" I guess he was talking about if Haleigh got unruly.

I just don't equate "make her mind" with giving her something to knock her out. It seems he was telling her to deal with it if Haleigh was acting up.

The accidental overdose motive and cover up may come to be true but I don't think Ron is the one who told anyone to drug his daughter.

Now if Misty wanted her out of her hair..then maybe.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do anyone think,Maybe the gun went off & hit Haleigh ,By accident and they all did not no what to do

Since for so long LE had called Haleigh a missing person case, I would think if anyone was shot in the home and it turned out to be Haleigh's dna, the police would have long ago declared the case a homicide.

So I doubt the gun was involved by any of the questionable parties.

imoo

 

[tehcloser]

Since for so long LE had called Haleigh a missing person case, I would think if anyone was shot in the home and it turned out to be Haleigh's dna, the police would have long ago declared the case a homicide.

So I doubt the gun was involved by any of the questionable parties.

imoo

But the problem with that, is we don't know for sure where the "crime" took place. In fact after Hardy's last statement that the general area of the river might be the crime scene, seems to me LE may not think it's the MH either.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

[BBM]

I've come to believe it is Ron covering for Misty. The motive? He told her to give Haleigh something that night to make her sleep and it was Ron's illegal drugs that she gave her. Ron knows he's complicit in the crime.

As to why Misty didn't pick up the phone? I think she was busy with the task at hand. Perhaps she went with whoever was getting rid of the evidence and left her phone at the mobile home. This girl isn't exactly the type to plan ahead.

I don't think Misty will ever break. She can't because she is the one who gave something to Haleigh. Ron can't break because he's the one who told her to give Haleigh something and it was an illegal drug.

For those who think a druggie wouldn't waste their precious stash on a child, I disagree. As a rule they wouldn't, but a one time, I'm pretty desperate here, I need sleep and this child won't go to bed type thing? Yeah. It would also depend on the quantity of their supply at the time. If they had enough on hand, yeah, I think they would give her something. I think Misty maybe mistakenly gave her an Oxy or didn't follow Ron's instructions as to what or how much to give her.

Ron blames Misty and Misty feels obligated to Ron for killing one of his children. Misty doesn't realize that Ron would be at fault also.

That's my take. No motive, pure accident.

That is a great theory. Very compelling.

However if someone gave Haleigh a powerful drug even if it was their own legitimate prescription and she dies or even becomes serious ill that will never be ruled an accidental overdose. Giving drugs to anyone that belongs to someone else is against the law and to give them to a small child is even worse.

I am not even sure I believe Haleigh died from being overdosed by drugs but I do know if LE could prove that it will never be seen as an accidental overdose due to the fact that no one can give a lethal adult drug to a child.

Anthony is going to face that when her case comes up. The DA is not going to say Casey accidentally overdosed Haleigh on the chloroform because Casey had no right to put chloroform over her mouth and nose to knock her out in the first place. Had Casey given Oxy or any other drug it still would not be seen as an accidental overdose from a legal standpoint.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

But the problem with that, is we don't know for sure where the "crime" took place. In fact after Hardy's last statement that the general area of the river might be the crime scene, seems to me LE may not think it's the MH either.

I agree, Hardy does believe she was taken from her home and then killed in the area of the boat dock area.

I still dont see a gun being used or in play though.

IMO

 

[zoey]

Ron seems to have a very short fuse, and has stated some unforgiveable threats on record !

He needs no motive. He has a temper in need of serious anger management IMO !:twocents:

I think Ron is a mean mean man...with lots of anger..I also think that his daughter got into the drugs (after hearing/reading some of the story lines that may have happened to that poor little baby I do hope she was drugged! God bless her little soul!:angel there is also the possiblity of anger = abuse (i.e., hitting/punishment) I always found it odd that one of his interviews he stated that he spanked Hayleigh the right way or something along that line-according to dcf guidelines....I do think it was somehting that went terribly terribly wrong and hope they all pay for it.....

I do wish that somewhere someone would come up with some law that would make it a major felony to tell all these lies and such when your child is missing..i.e., kc and this case....this misleading of info needs to be done--if jail be the solution so be it....shameful!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It should matter that he passed 4 other Kangaroo stores to stop at the one which is situated near the Shell Harbor Way exit off 309. Beer and peanuts and cigarettes at 3 in the morning aren't felonious, but it is suspicious that he bypassed 4 other stores.

Motive doesn't have to apply to the death of Haleigh; it could very well be in the cover-up of her death, if those involved were in the process of committing another felony when she accidentally died.

I don't think that is odd. We have a multitude of convenience stores on one street, some of them sitting side by side or across the street from each other but my hubby always stops at the one he likes best and the others are all around that area. He goes right past them to go to the one he prefers.

I do think other felonies will be in play. Hardy seems very convinced that Haleigh was taken from her home and then killed in the area around the boat ramp so there sure could be added kidnapping charges if they ever arrest anyone.


IMO