If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

[thedeviledadvocate]

Evidence drying is standard CSI practice in the process of preserving possible DNA evidence for shipment for further testing.

Is scraping excess food, like if there was a clump of grease, or cake crumbs, or any particles of food that would attract insects done prior to the drying usually?Also do they empty the liquids from open containers with say leftover soda, or milk etc?

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

But would food product that would cause a really bad smell just disappear? Sure things can change with drying, but to have nothing left to see seems a bit strange.

What do you think the 100's to 1,000's of maggots were feeding on?

 

[gngr~snap]

What do you think the 100's to 1,000's of maggots were feeding on?

JMHO -the adipocere that was inside the trash bags? I think they about cleaned them up. Who would go to the troulbe to bag anyone and not toss the last "cleanup"bag? Even if you had to cut and run...
Did S. Birch mention that noise? I do not recall.

 

[Just Jayla]

What do you think the 100's to 1,000's of maggots were feeding on?

Other than GA's statement that he heard crackling, was there ever evidence entered that suggested 100's to 1000's of maggots were present? :sick:

BTW deviled, if your ears/fingers were burning...it's cause I mentioned you on another thread in reference to the fact that you have had doubts and expressed them here for a long, long time now...you are not in the category of those that jumped on board late and tackled the rest of us as if we know nothing except the good word of NancyG. As much as we disagree, I appreciate that about your participation here.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

JMHO -the adipocere that was inside the trash bags? I think they about cleaned them up. Who would go to the troulbe to bag anyone and not toss the last "cleanup"bag? Even if you had to cut and run...
Did S. Birch mention that noise? I do bot recall.

I think GA was the one who mentioned the maggots in the white trash bag.
The fatty substance like adipocere was on paper towelling that Dr. Haskell speculated KC used to clean up the decomp from the trunk.

As always my entire post is my opinion only.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

Other than GA's statement that he heard crackling, was there ever evidence entered that suggested 100's to 1000's of maggots were ever present? :sick:

IIRC there were some maggots sent to dr. Haskell by OCSO csi MV. The flies and maggots were also brought up during trial by Dr. Haskell, and I can't remember who the defense used. IIRC one of the experts mentioned 100's if not 1,000's of maggots should have been found in the trunk area, not just in the white trash bag.

Those maggots grow fast. On Monday our waste management truck picks up the garbage. Our big green garbage cannister was emptied. We always empty all our waste baskets in the house on Sunday night or Monday morning. By Saturday, maggots were crawling out of a small crack in the garbage cannister. I looked inside and there were thousands of those buggers inside and outside the garbage bags. Yes, we do throw leftovers away, and there are a couple children who usually doesn't eat everything on their plates. In just 5 days though, and the first garbage bag was thrown in on Tuesday night. It is possible that the flies had laid the eggs inside the cannister though. Needless to say, after waste management came again on Monday, I thoroughly cleaned the garbage cannister.

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

 

[gngr~snap]

IIRC there were some maggots sent to dr. Haskell by OCSO csi MV. The flies and maggots were also brought up during trial by Dr. Haskell, and I can't remember who the defense used. IIRC one of the experts mentioned 100's if not 1,000's of maggots should have been found in the trunk area, not just in the white trash bag.

Those maggots grow fast. On Monday our waste management truck picks up the garbage. Our big green garbage cannister was emptied. We always empty all our waste baskets in the house on Sunday night or Monday morning. By Saturday, maggots were crawling out of a small crack in the garbage cannister. I looked inside and there were thousands of those buggers inside and outside the garbage bags. Yes, we do throw leftovers away, and there are a couple children who usually doesn't eat everything on their plates. In just 5 days though, and the first garbage bag was thrown in on Tuesday night. It is possible that the flies had laid the eggs inside the cannister though. Needless to say, after waste management came again on Monday, I thoroughly cleaned the garbage cannister.

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_S_Burch072408.htm

I just re read SB's interview. He mentions them but not any sound. Couldn't have beenTHAT bad cause he jumped into the dumpster in his pj's when it hit him OSCO needed the bag. and then just said her could hear flies. GA only said caylee was MISSING. Said he KNEW it was out of gas. Birch said odd to bring cans with you.Went on and on about his daughters lies.- oh well there's the link

 

[Just Jayla]

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_S_Burch072408.htm

I just re read SB's interview. He mentions them but not any sound. Couldn't have beenTHAT bad cause he jumped into the dumpster in his pj's when it hit him OSCO needed the bag. and then just said her could hear flies. GA only said caylee was MISSING. Said he KNEW it was out of gas. Birch said odd to bring cans with you.Went on and on about his daughters lies.- oh well there's the link

George definitely mentioned crackling :sick: maggots, like cooking hamburger, IIRC. No interviews early on mentioned a specific number of maggots, but per deviled, above, Dr. Haskell said there should have been.

 

[travelgal]

SA left out a few things I feel might have helped jury arrive at a different verdict BUT I also feel the jury did not give the evidence enough deliberation. ALSO, I still can't believe 12 people arrived at the same verdict in under 11 hours ......somebody in that room was either dominating or th room was full of 1 leader and 11 sheep.

 

[Just Jayla]

SA left out a few things I feel might have helped jury arrive at a different verdict BUT I also feel the jury did not give the evidence enough deliberation. ALSO, I still can't believe 12 people arrived at the same verdict in under 11 hours ......somebody in that room was either dominating or th room was full of 1 leader and 11 sheep.

The fact that between the verdict reading time and the scheduled presser (short window of time), the jurors decided that they would reserve their press interviews for a payday, is a sign that they knew ahead of time that they were going to sell their stories. How that would have effected their verdict is up for speculation, IMO.

 

[RR0004]

I saw that Vinnie Politan show too, and it was excellent. He presented numerous things that happened during the trial and showed what he called "disconnect" between the way he interpreted it and the jury interpreted it. In every case, I interpretated it the same as he did and had trouble figuring out how it could be interpreted any other way.

Say what you (anyone) will about HLN , but Politan has been on fire since the verdict. He still can't wrap his brain around what happened. I even like listening to him now. lol

 

[kelian36]

ITA - Those without a conscience don't have fear. How many nights did she sleep in that house after she had been bailed out KNOWING her child was in that swamp at the end of the street decomposing.

:rocker: Yep and remember this, the night after she killed her child, she went to blockbuster, walked arm and arm with her bf and went back to his house to watch a movie. She also slept there that night.
She had no conscience....still doesn't.

 

[kelian36]

Ah but you see it would have been common sense to have assumed if your trunk smelled, you would open it to see where it was coming from, and remove the offending item. There's your problem....

Oh oh :doh: - silly me! That's exactly what CFCA did!

FCA killed her child and put her in the trunk. SHE KNEW what was causing the smell.:waiting:

 

[kelian36]

Say what you (anyone) will about HLN , but Politan has been on fire since the verdict. He still can't wrap his brain around what happened. I even like listening to him now. lol

RR0004,
I also watch him now and lol, I like him. Vinnie saw what happened in the courtroom. He's imo given excellent explanations and comments about the trial and the verdict.

 

[Caligram]

My head has been whirling as I read each post on this thread to see if I might have missed some valid points made by those who agree with the jury.
I guess I am just too old and stubborn (I'm 74) to change my ideas about right and wrong. The word "law" used to lead to the word "legal" to me. In a court of law with a judge and jury, people were supposed to tell the truth, not be able to make obscene accusations and get away with it. I guess that is why I am so very outraged with this jury verdict.
JB made some outrageous and despicable excuses for what he stated really happened to Caylee Marie, and he wasn't required to substantiate any of it. He wove a disjointed and evil tale, painting GA as a molester and FCA as a silent victim. He deliberately shifted the focus of this trial from FCA to GA. Of course GA looked shamed, hung his head. Wouldn't you, if you had done those things JB spoke of. But JB got away with making those accusations in his opening statement.
I am angry that after three years this is the defense from the DT. It was dirty with sexual molestation in graphic detail, which shocked most of the courtroom. This was unproven, but it caught the bored jury's attention it stuck better than thinking about that darn duct tape which had been wrapped around Caylee Marie’s nose and mouth. And, how did that DT doc that broke little Caylee Marie’s skull when he sawed it apart explain the duct tape? Do people really believe that someone took Caylee Marie’s skull from where it was dumped and reattached the mandible. What about all that plant growth that had grown through Caylee Marie’s skull, was embedded in her hair, her blanket and the bags she had been dumped in. The Forensic Botanist that the DT brought on board was clearly not capable of expert testimony in this case. Did you catch that part where she said in her deposition that she had only seen plant growth growing through bone when she was young, and that was from some chicken bones she saw in her mother’s garden. Chicken bones. Did the jury pay any attention to these depositions from the so-called defense experts. They never read them. They only heard what the DT wanted these experts to say.
Like they say, you can't un-ring the bell. JB threw out this crap, knew this, it was his only chance, and he dared to go ahead with it. Why this isn't illegal is beyond my comprehension. He didn’t have to even back up any of those accusations. How can that be allowed. This trial became a trial by perjury, not a trial by jury. Caylee Marie deserved justice, and this was a farce. It proved that you really can get away with murder, and make money from it too.
IMO (Sorry for my lack of writing skills. I am aware of it, can’t think in paragraphs and my OCD just won’t let go of this ugly event.)

 

[Just Jayla]

FCA killed her child and put her in the trunk. SHE KNEW what was causing the smell.:waiting:

Yeah...you and logical are bringing me back around to the reason that this jury had every reason to find her guilty. There is a plethora of reasoning as to whether the state shoud've done this, the state should've done that...the simple facts have been stampeded, and they WERE presented to the jury.

Totally lied for 31 days. Not one or two lies, 5000 different embelished lies.
Totally acknowledged to AH that her car smelled like death.
Totally avoided her mom.
Totally lied to LE and even told them they would not break her (though I don't remember that little gem being entered into evidence.)
Plus, rationale for homicide detrmination, as simple as Dr. G could possibly make it:
Failure to report an accident.
Child found bagged.
Child found with duct tape on the face which kept the mandible in place.
And what did George ever lie about that was entered into evidence? An affair that happened after Caylee was dead?


To believe that KC did all of this because her family taught her to lie, or because her family is a pack of liars, is to remove any and all responsibility from KC for her own actions. To make excuses for her. Many, many excuses. You would seriously have to buy into the fact that it is the world against KC to be able to ignore the obvoius in this case.
Yep, ya'll reminded me that they did have plenty of evidence. Plenty. And they ignored at least three instructions:

Don't consider the penalty.
Do consider lesser charges.
Opening statement is not evidence (one of the alternates mentioned OS's, and if he considered it, so did one of the others).

CSI effect was in effect. Payday and wanting to get home was forefront. Seeing trees but no forest. No justice for Caylee.

 

[CanManEh]

I have a question and i know this isnt quite on topic and even quite the scenario in this case but none the less Here goes....Casey anthony can not be retried because of the double jepordy law and that means u cant be retried for killing the same person twice I believe so my question is this now i know this scenario was different anyway but say it was about 2 adults like the actual movie double jepordy ..if she says now in an interview yes i did kill cayle she wont be arrested ..but what if that other person was alive somewhere like i said in the movie ..could she walk up and then kill him say on live tv ..and still not be charged with killing that person/ i know this is not the right kinda case but it is the right law so i thought i would ask ..

 

[gngr~snap]

FCA killed her child and put her in the trunk. SHE KNEW what was causing the smell.:waiting:

And ran out of gas 3x in a week as well as saying
"smells like something died in my car"

 

[beccalecca1]

JMHO -the adipocere that was inside the trash bags? I think they about cleaned them up. Who would go to the troulbe to bag anyone and not toss the last "cleanup"bag? Even if you had to cut and run...
Did S. Birch mention that noise? I do not recall.

I don't recall S Birch mentioning the noise, just GA. SB did mention the flies coming out when the trunk was opened though.

 

[sacrablue]

First time you always make mistakes. Probably don't agree with that either?