IL - Azariah Nino, 3, beaten to death, Beach Park, 27 May 2008

[Linda7NJ]

anyone that has children has had those moments when we feel stressed to our limits. in most of us our love for our child outweighs the anger of the moment.

Even when I am super angry with my child ...never once did I even feel the urge to hurt him.

 

[sherri79]

"Potty issues" is the number one cause of child abuse. More people beat their children for this reason than any other.

while potty training my son i was the most angry i have ever been at one of my children. he pooped in his pants then jumped all over the bed. i sat him on the potty while i took the sheets from the bed. when i returned to the bathroom he had wiped his poop everywhere, the toilet, floor, shelves, lip of the sink, knobs on the sink, walls, side of the tub, walls, clean towels, and the door. i had only left him in there 2 minutes so i could put his sheets in the wash. it almost looked like he tried to paint. i understand the feelings of anger at a child over something they really do not understand. my son had no idea why what he had done made me so upset i cried.

i understand the feelings, i do NOT understand the reaction. no matter how angry i was he was my son. mine to protect, not to harm.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Isn't that weird, when you think about it? It's not like they'll be walking down the isle at their wedding or graduating college in their diapers or anything. My ex wanted to spank my daughter for using the potty in her panties once and I asked him what his major malfunction was - even if the kid WAS defying you and not doing it because they were trying to control you (which isn't the case) it's a little kid - no big threat to your ego or anything.

Exactly! All children have accidents...like you said, even if it wasn't an accident............what's the big freaking deal? Parents have been changi9ng diapers and dealing with poop for a long time.


I overheard a mother belittling her child once for wetting the bed the night before. Mom claimed it was deliberate I simply had to add my two cents to the conversation :crazy: The other mothers present that she was talking about her child to...loudly and in front of the child ......looked received but not one of them would speak up. I just hope I made the belittling mom feel as stupid as she made her daughter feel!

 

[GlitchWizard]

Even when I am super angry with my child ...never once did I even feel the urge to hurt him.

I promised my daughter as a toddler I'd never hurt her (during a lesson on why she shouldn't bite Mommy!) and she promised me she'd never hurt me. So far... so good. No spankings, no hitting me. She's 16 now.

I certainly have felt the urge to hurt my daughter - after she was a teenager, of course - but it's not like it's something you can take back, or something that effects only you.

You have to be a parent first and a ticked off over reacting human being SECOND. The parent part should keep your hands to yourself while the rest of you is raging inside, safely away from harming someone else.

 

[sherri79]

Even when I am super angry with my child ...never once did I even feel the urge to hurt him.

every parent has felt anger. we have all looked at our child and thought "omg why would you do that!". i just can not wrap my mind around someone that acts on that anger and hurts a child. i grew up in a house of abuse and anger. that has not brought me any closer to understanding violence against children.

 

[Linda7NJ]

every parent has felt anger. we have all looked at our child and thought "omg why would you do that!". i just can not wrap my mind around someone that acts on that anger and hurts a child. i grew up in a house of abuse and anger. that has not brought me any closer to understanding violence against children.

I'll never get it either!

They're children for Pete's sake. They're gonna make mistakes, lots of them. They're still learning! If they already knew everything and could think like an adult they wouldn't need us!

 

[golfmom]

Exactly! All children have accidents...like you said, even if it wasn't an accident............what's the big freaking deal? Parents have been changi9ng diapers and dealing with poop for a long time.


I overheard a mother belittling her child once for wetting the bed the night before. Mom claimed it was deliberate I simply had to add my two cents to the conversation :crazy: The other mothers present that she was talking about her child to...loudly and in front of the child ......looked received but not one of them would speak up. I just hope I made the belittling mom feel as stupid as she made her daughter feel!

High Five Linda! Children's bladders mature at a range of ages ... just like there's a range for menstruation.

 

[Salem]

Kudos to you Linda for speaking up. I have come to the conclusion that it is absolutely necessary to speak out! I embrass my family all the time because I refuse to keep to myself. I will correct a child in front of their parents if the child is being destructive and the parents do not respond (only when the child is being destructive, though) and I will correct a parent that is being destructive to a child, no matter where I am. If it is a scary parent, I think twice, but I just tell myself, "I have a cell phone, if they go off on me, I'll just call the cops." So far I have never had to call the cops but there have been a couple of mothers who did not appreciate my input much. Oh well. If we don't speak for the child and the parents haven't got a clue, what will the child do? I firmly belive it takes a village to raise a child.

Salem

 

[jubie]

Maybe this would be a very different story if she was very rich and could hire a bunch of lawyers and the only witnesses were willing to cover up for her and get lucky enough to have a faulty police investigation.:waitasec:


I agree about sometimes wondering why I even read a thread.


We have/had bed wetters in our family and it's just a no big deal thing. You do your best to potty train them and then IF it doesn't work out you buy Goodnights. Usually more of a bummer for girls because by the time they grow out of bed wetting they start their periods pretty quick.



This poor little boy, I can't believe no one helped him.:furious:




J.

 

[NewMommy09]

I hope this woman gets beat so badly in prison that she wets herself constantly.

 

[texasgirl]

My heart is just broken over this little guy. I hope this mother ROTS and I have no sympathy.

I'm just sick...

RIP little angel.

 

[invictus]

The description of the incident and the injuries actually made me physically sick to my stomach. I'm not sure that I've heard a more detailed description of child abuse injuries before. I'm horrified.

My oldest son had issues with bed wetting until he was 12. Never once did I lay a hand on him for it.

 

[golfmom]

Maybe this would be a very different story if she was very rich and could hire a bunch of lawyers and the only witnesses were willing to cover up for her and get lucky enough to have a faulty police investigation.:waitasec:
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jubie, I don't understand what you mean . . . :waitasec:

 

[RiverRat]

"Potty issues" is the number one cause of child abuse. More people beat their children for this reason than any other.

Sure wish that I could ask JonBenet more about this issue......

 

[RiverRat]

jubie, I don't understand what you mean . . . :waitasec:

Check my avatar out.......there's a clue in there.

 

[Salem]

Check my avatar out.......there's a clue in there.

And I thought Jubie was talking about Madeleine McCann

Salem

 

[GlitchWizard]

The description of the incident and the injuries actually made me physically sick to my stomach. I'm not sure that I've heard a more detailed description of child abuse injuries before. I'm horrified.

My oldest son had issues with bed wetting until he was 12. Never once did I lay a hand on him for it.

*snicker* Bet if you told him you posted this for the world to see NOW... he'd say... I'd rather you spanked me! *snicker*

 

[Autumn2004]

I cant believe what this world is coming to. My 4 year old still has potty accidents at times and she hates it herself and feels bad enough I try and reinforce that its ok and its no big deal so I cant understand the mentality of abusing them after accidents they feel bad about it anyways why would they kick them while they were down. A waterproof pad, extra pair of sheets and a extra comforter is all thats needed and its so quick to change it.

 

[jubie]

And I thought Jubie was talking about Madeleine McCann

Salem

Sorry, didn't mean to be unclear. I was talking about the JonBenet Ramsey case. I believe her mother killed her after a toileting issue.



J.

 

[jubie]

*snicker* Bet if you told him you posted this for the world to see NOW... he'd say... I'd rather you spanked me! *snicker*

I could be wrong but aren't you the poster that has no problem having a sex dungeon in the home you share with your daughter? And you think that information for all here to see is any better than what invictus posted? :waitasec:


J.