GUILTY IL - Jacob Wheeler, 22, & Jessica Evans, 17, White County, 25 Aug 2012 - #1

[hollyblue]

Ok, so it's a big rural area, sparse with people but known meth labs have been busted there. If there is still meth, that suggests more meth labs due to the setting. If meth keeps popping up, then what company are they acquiring the ingredients from? I know a person can make meth from stuff bought at Walmart or any other drug or convenience store, but the fact that meth labs have popped up on numerous occasions AND the fact that houses have been confiscated due to them being busted for manufacturing of meth - that highly suggests a larger quantity of ingredients would be needed. A person couldn't walk into Walmart & purchase several gallons of ammonia without being questioned - no way. So given the rural setting, could there be a farm store for food & fertilizer stuff? Maybe a larger company that might not notice inventory going missing as compared to a smaller store that holds lesser supply?

The last laws to be passed on meth manufacturing was pretty tough, iirc, and then you hve the presence of the Mexican meth coming in with a higher quality at the same price. Most meth "labs" nowadays are mostly shake and bake. Meaning you can make small quantities in a vehicle if needed.....usually the maker is just making it for himself and a few others to just make enough profit to buy the ingredients again to keep his own supply on hand. Suppliers could be a pharmacist on the take and in a downtrodden economy.....some farmers have been in the mix also. But, as I said, the big labs are fading fast, imo. Who really wants to go up against the Mexican Cartels in business. KWIM??
JMO

 

[Confusion]

I'll go with my usual "what's the least likely scenario that's still possible?" thought process. Sorry if I drive people crazy with it, but it's pretty much my way of making sure that all possiblities are considered, or at least a lot of them.

The thought I had tonight was a bit of an extension of something I mentioned before. Perhaps someone had stopped by earlier in the day, or saw them at McDonalds (if I remember correctly where they were earlier that night), and got it into their heads that it would be fun to harrass these 2 kids out camping. They come around later and find where they are fishing and watch them for a while, trying to decide what they want to do with them. Eventually she decides to sleep for a while in the back of the truck, but Jake wants to keep fishing a bit longer.

While she is lying in the bed of the truck, one of them goes over to talk to her, but she rejects him. He shoots her and then goes to shoot Jake (I guess in this theory, only one of them has a gun). Because of his military training, Jake immediately hid when he heard the shots, sneaking up to the back of the shooter's pickup. If they did find any of his blood, it's also possible that he was shot at and wounded before darting into the dark/brush.

Once he gets behind their truck, he quietly climbs into the back while he works out a plan for ambushing them when they return to it. Because they both return at the same time, he isn't able to get one without the other one seeing, and he has no way of knowing if who has a weapon and who doesn't. He stays hidden in the truck waiting for an opportunity, but they just start the truck (if they turned it off in the first place) and leave. Eventually, he is discovered back there, either because he tries to do something or because they stop somewhere else with more light and see him there. At that point they make him get out of the truck and shoot him, or just shoot him while he's still in it and then dump his body.

I'd prefer to say they stop and he gets out and escapes, but I can't see him not contacting his family or friends yet if that were the case. Of course, it could actually have been someone who knew her/them and had something against her/them, but I feel like there had to have been more than one of them or he would have just jumped him right away rather than sneaking into the truck bed. :shush:

 

[hollyblue]

I'm just trying to learn more about Jacob, so I was checking out his FB page. On Aug 13th he posted a poem that came from the movie 8 Seconds. Anybody here ever see that?
8 Seconds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also on some of his pics he has a work shirt on that says Brown's. There is a Brown Feed and Chemical that comes up for the Carmi area. That kind of fits into the meth theory. :what:

Thank you. Good find and very probable theory!!!:rocker:

 

[iamnotagolem]

So my only working meth theory that keeps Jacob innocent is that someone who knows jacob has access to potential meth ingredients saw them or knew they were camping and took Jacob to obtain products and killed Kimberly because she wasnt needed.

I just don't see any reason to leave jacob alive, I still think he is dead or will be shortly.

 

[hollyblue]

I made a map of the area of the river they were searching by boat; estimate 5 miles. From the Cherry Shoals Bridge to the the Hanks Ferry Bridge.

Hope this works ok: http://itouchmap.com/?t=hanks+Ferry+Bridge%2C+IL&l=en&submit=Get+Directions&st=l2&m=y&f=Cherry+Shoals+Bridge&mlf=38.17088&mgf=-88.105314

 

[ScotsPaddy]

Could it be that Jacob was supplying some chems needed to make meths to a meth manufacturer or similar to make a buck on the side?.

 

[GateKeeper]

Thanks for the map Holly!

 

[Dushi]

I don't like the fact that there is a gun missing from the Wheeler home.
If it was just a matter of self protection on a camping trip, wouldn't he have just asked to borrow it?

When i read missing, it says it was taken without the owners knowledge

 

[shefner]

FUNERAL SET FOR HOMICIDE VICTIM

http://thesouthern.com/news/local/funeral-set-for-homicide-victim/article_5ba21c60-f255-11e1-8ffa-001a4bcf887a.html

 

[lillygator]

Are the autopsy results back? Just thinking out loud ...<modsnip>.

several people on that Disclosure fb page claim to be friends with Jessica and that she was wanting to break it off with him.

I'm thinking, if she was going to break it off with him, <modsnip>.

have they checked with the wife? maybe he ran to fl?

 

[Dushi]

I think the post that really hits home is from a poster up thread...
There isn't going to be any kind of happy ending in this story

We have a young girl murdered and a missing man,dead or injured or on the run

Too much time has passed for me to hope for a positive outcome as far as jake is concerned

Where is he? What has happened?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

http://www.disclosurenewsonline.com/2012/08/30/wheeler-still-could-b-a-victim-new-info-more-coming/

WHEELER STILL COULD BE A VICTIM; NEW INFO & MORE COMING
By JACK HOWSER
Published: 9:38 am, August 30, 2012

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WHITE CO.&#8212;The latest developments in the case of a 17-year-old being shot to death over the weekend still stand as they did yesterday: That Jacob Wheeler is STILL missing, and Sheriff Maier is STILL saying that Jake could still be a victim in the case.

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Maier was apparently misquoted last night in coverage by a local TV station, and that misquote has sent supporters of Wheeler into a flurry of activity in insisting that Wheeler would never be involved in Jessica Evans&#8217; death.

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There were three gunshot wounds in her head (it has not been specified whether it was in the back of the head, or where exactly at all; speculation had it as such but that has NOT been confirmed), and no other external trauma.

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It&#8217;s unclear at this time what kind of gun, to whom it belonged, etc. The family acknowledged that yes, that gun had previously been there in the house, and yes, it was now missing. They did state to authorities that it was not gone prior to the camping trip for the weekend. Maier said &#8220;they made no attempt to cover up the fact that there was a gun [b[gone from the collection in their house[/b],&#8221; which is where Jake had been living.

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Also issued were subpoenas for bank/credit card usage by Jacob Wheeler, as well as for his phone records through Alltel.

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At this time, Maier has said, as he did yesterday morning, that it&#8217;s unknown whether Wheeler can be considered a suspect or a victim; there&#8217;s just not enough information.

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The one rumor that was floating around Tuesday night that HAS been confirmed is the one originating from the Centerville area: that a local man, Jimmy Howell, had a young man come to his door at about 3 a.m. Sunday morning, having blood on him and wanting to use his phone. Maier said his staff did indeed check that one, and Howell did indeed have someone come to his place under that exact circumstance, but when checked, it was determined that this WASN&#8217;T Jacob Wheeler who had blood on him and wanted to use Howell&#8217;s phone. We don&#8217;t know who it was. But it wasn&#8217;t Jake.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I'm just trying to learn more about Jacob, so I was checking out his FB page. On Aug 13th he posted a poem that came from the movie 8 Seconds. Anybody here ever see that?
8 Seconds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also on some of his pics he has a work shirt on that says Brown's. There is a Brown Feed and Chemical that comes up for the Carmi area. That kind of fits into the meth theory. :what:

Wow really? We don't have his FB linked yet, right? Lemme look...

 

[concernedmother]

Maier said that his department is checking leads that Wheeler was seen AFTER the suspected time of death (the coroner&#8217;s report indicated that when Evans was found, she could have been deceased for as long as 24 to 48 hours, meaning she could have died any time between Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon), but nothing so far has been confirmed.

 

[peeples]

Howell did indeed have someone come to his place under that exact circumstance, but when checked, it was determined that this WASN&#8217;T Jacob Wheeler who had blood on him and wanted to use Howell&#8217;s phone. We don&#8217;t know who it was. But it wasn&#8217;t Jake.


WOW maybe the whole 3rd person thing is falling into place!!

 

[concernedmother]

If someone came to my house in the middle of the night with blood on them Id be asking questions, has there been a wreck etc and called 911.

 

[concernedmother]

Howell did indeed have someone come to his place under that exact circumstance, but when checked, it was determined that this WASN’T Jacob Wheeler who had blood on him and wanted to use Howell’s phone. We don’t know who it was. But it wasn’t Jake.


WOW maybe the whole 3rd person thing is falling into place!!

It sure gets stranger every report. Maybe today will be the day he is found.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Suspect OR victim, this guy needs to be found pronto!

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Something bugging me is the guy with the blood needing to use a phone - why no sketch? Shouldn't that be done ASAP due to the circumstances?

 

[concernedmother]

Seems like LE would be anxious to find this guy with blood on him too because he could be connected to the case.