Identified! IL - Jefferson Co, Wht Fem 30-50, 166UFIL, wry neck syndrome, Jan'93 - Susan Hope Lund

[Goecke]

Reading over the documents, it seems to me like she may have had more than just torticollis? It sounds like that's the most likely explanation, but some of her features (namely the facial/cranial asymmetry) don't exactly line up with torticollis. Makes me think she may have had more medical problems/disabilities.

Also going to bring up this woman again. She also had unusual facial features and was most likely disabled, and we only ever found a severed head. Houlton and Ina are nine and a half hours away from each other, according to Google Maps. WI - WI - Houlton, AsianFem 406UFWI, 35-60, wide-set eyes, Oct'02

 

[AubrieC]

Reading over the documents, it seems to me like she may have had more than just torticollis? It sounds like that's the most likely explanation, but some of her features (namely the facial/cranial asymmetry) don't exactly line up with torticollis. Makes me think she may have had more medical problems/disabilities.

Also going to bring up this woman again. She also had unusual facial features and was most likely disabled, and we only ever found a severed head. Houlton and Ina are nine and a half hours away from each other, according to Google Maps. WI - WI - Houlton, AsianFem 406UFWI, 35-60, wide-set eyes, Oct'02

I tried pulling up that Doe on NAMUS her profile is gone or the website is down for some reason, I'll try again later. I believe your theory with her having some form of disability. However, it seems she was possibly high functioning enough to smoke cigarettes. They found nicotine in her brain as well. It also brings up the theory that she isn't from Illinois either.

 

[Goecke]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Here's the other Doe found in Wisconsin. Her NamUs is still up and working fine.

On the topic of her not being found in IL, how isolated is the area where she was found? Would someone have to be familiar with the area to find it, or could it be someone from somewhere else who just drove by? I'm not familiar with the area at all.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Here's the other Doe found in Wisconsin. Her NamUs is still up and working fine.

On the topic of her not being found in IL, how isolated is the area where she was found? Would someone have to be familiar with the area to find it, or could it be someone from somewhere else who just drove by? I'm not familiar with the area at all.

Houlton is pretty remote, but it's also very near Minneapolis, just off I-94, which is the highway that connects all the major Midwestern cities (Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc), so I would say there's a pretty strong possibility of the crime being committed by someone who was just driving through. I can speak for myself and say that we drove through that area when we drove up to Minneapolis from Chicago when we visited my grandparents.

(Via Wikipedia)

 

[Tristana]

This is only a theory, but did they have isotopes done for this Jane Doe ? I happen to believe this might have been a mail-order bride type of situation, which would explain the "caucasian" features and the elements that aren't inconsistent with an Eastern European person.

 

[AubrieC]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Here's the other Doe found in Wisconsin. Her NamUs is still up and working fine.

On the topic of her not being found in IL, how isolated is the area where she was found? Would someone have to be familiar with the area to find it, or could it be someone from somewhere else who just drove by? I'm not familiar with the area at all.

I can't say for the year 1993 nor with it being winter when she was found. But, the area is a wildlife/camping/hunting/fishing/recreational area. Also 2 little girls found her. So, it seems like a kid and family friendly trail area. There is also a Junior College in the area. People are there. But populations around the area is small. Majority of the censes is prisoners. I unfortunately did not grow up in southern Illinois. I'm a Chicagoan who was born after she was found. So I don't know 100%. Maybe i'll take a trip down there this summer.

 

[Fede]

Maybe a good way to reduce the possibilities is to check women who were having awful life conditions in the years previous to her death. That is, she had old expensive dental work and now she had rotten teeth

 

[Bit of hope]

Maybe a good way to reduce the possibilities is to check women who were having awful life conditions in the years previous to her death. That is, she had old expensive dental work and now she had rotten teeth

How do you want to achieve that, ideas? Did you already give it a go? I get your point, but what do you consider awful life conditions?

 

[Fede]

How do you want to achieve that, ideas? Did you already give it a go? I get your point, but what do you consider awful life conditions?

I wanted to say something like "living in the streets" or "heavy drug users". I got your point. Extremely difficult since these kind of people maybe don´t even get reported as missing.

 

[Fede]

Well, I have just failed miserably. I tried to do a search on NamUs. Female, White /caucasian race / last contact between October 1992 and january 1993, State: Illinois.
No match found

 

[Fede]

Adding the surrounding states KY, IN, MO, IA, WI and also TN that is close, I only found Anna Manning
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Bit of hope]

Adding the surrounding states KY, IN, MO, IA, WI and also TN that is close, I only found Anna Manning
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

I think somebody already brought her up, upthread I don't know what happened with this possible match, if somebody submitted her and what eventually came of it. (didn't read back all the way) Also Ina Doe is estimated to be around 30. This woman is 23. Don't want to be a "Missy know it all", but I don't think its Ina Doe. On the other hand if more people came up with her....maybe I don't see what you see.

 

[Bit of hope]

Well, I have just failed miserably. I tried to do a search on NamUs. Female, White /caucasian race / last contact between October 1992 and january 1993, State: Illinois.
No match found

IMO trying is never a failure. Somehow I have the feeling the circumstances this woman lived in are kind of similar with the case of this sweetheart Peggy Johnson

Peggy Lynn Johnson was born in McHenry, Illinois with cognitive disabilities. She lived with her mother up until age 18 when her mother passed away. Peggy started to live as a transient and was found by Linda LaRoche at a medical center in 1994. Linda took her in with her husband and their five children until her death. LaRoche coerced the victim into providing daycare and housekeeping services in exchange for residing at the house. Johnson was only permitted to sleep in the crawlspace of the home.

What if Linda LaRoche "found" Ina Doe also in a medical center?

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[Mrs. Badcrumble]

What if Linda LaRoche "found" Ina Doe also in a medical center?

Do you mean if LaRoache is also responsible for Ina Jane Doe's death? AFAIK, LaRoache was caught after bragging to co-workers (or something) about killing ONE woman a long time ago, not two or several? I'm a bit rusty when it comes to Peggy's case, I'm afraid, so I could be mistaken, or more info has emerged since I last was updated on the case. But I do agree that a similar scenario might've taken place in IJD's case. People who suddenly find themselves in a position of power, often let the new-found power go to their heads and acts in disgusting manner.

 

[Bit of hope]

Do you mean if LaRoache is also responsible for Ina Jane Doe's death? AFAIK, LaRoache was caught after bragging to co-workers (or something) about killing ONE woman a long time ago, not two or several? I'm a bit rusty when it comes to Peggy's case, I'm afraid, so I could be mistaken, or more info has emerged since I last was updated on the case. But I do agree that a similar scenario might've taken place in IJD's case.

No I don't mean LaRoche (La Roche) is responsible persé...confessing she "just" killed one woman doesn't mean a thing to me. Yes, Ina Doe could most likely have been in the same circumstances (same scenario), time frame could fit, Illinois comes by....Need to look into this LaRoche woman's life to see if this is possible at all.

 

[Fede]

No I don't mean LaRoche (La Roche) is responsible persé...confessing she "just" killed one woman doesn't mean a thing to me. Yes, Ina Doe could most likely have been in the same circumstances (same scenario), time frame could fit, Illinois comes by....Need to look into this LaRoche woman's life to see if this is possible at all.

If this is the case maybe Ina Jane Doe could have been reported as missing earlier and then kept against her will for a time

 

[ShoshanaM]

Hello! I grew up on Rend Lake. The head was found right before I turned 6. I clearly remember seeing it on the news and it has fascinated me since. If the head was thrown from I-57 it would 100% have to be the southbound lanes. It is highly unlikely she was thrown from the interstate because the interstate is not close enough for that to be possible. For awhile I was convinced that Ina Jane Doe was from the small Mennonite community a bit east of the park. If she had left the community by choice she would have been cut off from family and friends. They would not know to report her missing. After learning she had received expensive dental care I know I am wrong. It is possible that the body was dismembered then consumed by wildlife. I recently decided to start researching this case again, and I stumbled upon the serial killer Gary Michael Hiton. He decapitated his victims and left them in national forest. At some point after being caught he says something to the effect that he did not start killing at the age of 61. Rend Lake is out of his murder zone, but I am not convinced he did not kill Ina Jane Doe.

 

[Bit of hope]

Hello! I grew up on Rend Lake. The head was found right before I turned 6. I clearly remember seeing it on the news and it has fascinated me since. If the head was thrown from I-57 it would 100% have to be the southbound lanes. It is highly unlikely she was thrown from the interstate because the interstate is not close enough for that to be possible. For awhile I was convinced that Ina Jane Doe was from the small Mennonite community a bit east of the park. If she had left the community by choice she would have been cut off from family and friends. They would not know to report her missing. After learning she had received expensive dental care I know I am wrong. It is possible that the body was dismembered then consumed by wildlife. I recently decided to start researching this case again, and I stumbled upon the serial killer Gary Michael Hiton. He decapitated his victims and left them in national forest. At some point after being caught he says something to the effect that he did not start killing at the age of 61. Rend Lake is out of his murder zone, but I am not convinced he did not kill Ina Jane Doe.

Hi and welcome @ShoshanaM This is a summery/timeline of Gary Michael Hilton's life.....strangely it's kind of vague where he was in 1993.
https://murderpedia.org/male.H/images/hilton-gary-michael/gary-michael-hilton-info.pdf

 

[ShoshanaM]

The gap in whereabouts is interesting. I want this case solved so badly. The area of Rend Lake is fairly safe. Nothing really happens there. Most crimes are drug related.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I hope they solve this one over the next few years using DNA. I say that on many cases, but someone should not be allowed to get away with this crime.