GUILTY IL - Laquan McDonald, 17, fatally shot, Chicago PD charged, 20 Oct 2014 -J. VanDyke GUILTY*
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It appears the right arm went upwards as a result of having been shot.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIdooKTJtI
I'm referring to the way he held his arm out and away from his body before he got shot. He was holding the knife upright. Odd position for someone holding a closed knife.
Do you have a link for what you are talking about? A still shot would be even better, or a time during which I can see what you are describing. tia
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With all due respect to the mayor (.. do not know the man but am familiar with the name..) ; firing the chief of police is like seeing someone with a gaping wound and bringing a band-aid.
Like, " ..See there. Everything will be better now, I've fixed it !..."
Any time there's a cover up, it puts every policeman/woman's life in danger ; imo.
I realize that's a broad generalization; but incompetency and certainly illegal behavior must be dealt with.
Does this Rahm realize he holds lives in his hands with his elected position ?
If he has participated in a cover up, he risks losing the trust of the citizens and certainly makes it more dangerous for le !
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OT, but I find it very odd that you're referring to a public figure -- one with which you say you're only familiar by name -- by his first name. It really doesn't seem at all consistent with anything. So why does he deserve this sign of familiarity? I can't help but think it's some form of insult.
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No, just am more familiar with his first name, for some reason.
R. Emanuel chose Garry McCarthy , and it can't be pleasant to have to let him go.
Not trying to insult R.E., sometimes it's best to let the facts stand for themselves. And either agree or disagree.
It doesn't help to read the comments in many news sites as they're very critical of R.E.'s term as mayor.
news.yahoo.com/u-chicago-threat-came-amid-072016297.html
Emanuel introduced McCarthy as his pick to lead the department in May 2011, replacing former FBI agent Jody Weis, who was unpopular with many rank-and-file officers who claimed Weis did not stand behind them.
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I'm all for the police chief to fully back his officers ; but not if they've gone outside the realm of the law.
One would hope McCarthy didn't know about the tape, because he wouldn't stand behind a leo who transgressed, correct ?
At the same time, I can't believe Mccarthy didn't know something.
Did R. Imanuel decide this incident that ended in McDonald's death needed to 'go away' ?
Idk.
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The mayor specifically stated he fired McCarthy not because of his job performance, but because he had become an issue.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicago-police-supt-garry-mccarthy-fired-reports
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicago-police-supt-garry-mccarthy-fired-reports
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Then it might be safe to assume McCarthy knew nothing about L.McDonald's death.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-33...s-Mayor-Rahm-Emmanuel-colluding-cover-up.html
However, one police officer has claimed Emanuel colluded in the cover-up...
Wonder how this officer knows a cover up may have included the mayor ?
That's a serious accusation ; I'd imagine he has evidence.
Consider this is from the DM.
The Chicago PD can get the trust of the public back ; imo. But they need to come clean with any and all scandals within the department .
Just let the public know what other offenses have been committed by le and deal with it.
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Not only is it the Daily Mail, but it's the Daily Mail picking up on some social media in which an anonymous bicycle cop makes an off the cuff statement that someone records on their iPhone.
Color me skeptical, but I somehow think that bike cops aren't privy to all of the inner workings of the mayor's office. I suspect, and I think any reasonable person would, that he has no evidence whatsoever (but prejudice is another matter). It was irresponsible for the DM to post something like that in the first place, and I don't see why we should be assigning it any credibility or granting it any publicity here.
Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez said Tuesday that a 3-inch knife with it's blade folded into its pocket was recovered from the scene. ​
http://www.wbez.org/news/chicago-officer-charged-murder-killing-black-teen-113933
http://www.wbez.org/news/chicago-officer-charged-murder-killing-black-teen-113933
I think this video captures a bit more of McDonald walking before he got shot. It is clear he is holding his arm out, away from his body. A 3-inch closed pocket knife would fit in and be covered by his hand. If closed and covered in his hand, there would not be any glare reflecting from the knife handle. The position he was holding the knife and the glare is an indication to me that the knife blade was exposed. I'm sure we will eventually know if the knife was open or closed.
http://abc7chicago.com/news/warning-dash-cam-video-of-police-shooting-of-laquan-mcdonald/1097711/
It seems quite obvious to me the knife was open, but I have very good eyesight.
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It isn't my opinion the knife blade was open. According to Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez the knife blade was closed. She stated so in her live presser announcing her decision to charge Van Dyke with murder. Links upthread.
Sorry, I can't find the Cook County State Attorney's live presser in the link you provided. I was able to find snippets of statements from Alvarez,but not the presser in it's entirety. No mention of the knife being closed in the statements I heard. After watching the video from beginning to end several times, it would be very hard to convince me the knife was closed. Guess we need to agree to disagree. 
bbm, rahm is his name for goodness sakes. It's not mike or joe or larry or moe, it's rahm. Like my Dr. her name was carol, not jane or sally or sue, but carol. He was voted into office and is human he is not a god who's name can not be said. His name is rahm. BTW I know him more by his first name then his surname. jmo idk
I know what I heard Alvarez say during her presser when it was aired live just prior to the video being given to MSM outlets. I'll continue to see what I can find.......
In the meantime here is the link to the Cook County SA's office. Interesting to note no pressers have been added since 11-20. :banghead:
http://www.statesattorney.org/news_releases.html
In the meantime here is the link to the Cook County SA's office. Interesting to note no pressers have been added since 11-20. :banghead:
http://www.statesattorney.org/news_releases.html
I found the full presser. Times I post are for the MSNBC video, not the time stamps AA is mentioning for the police dash cam video.
At 3:50 AA states "As he passes one of the officers he raises his right hand and a knife is visible. A few seconds later officer Van Dyke and his partner arrive and park their vehicle"......
Based on the above information Van Dyke had not yet arrived on the scene when McDonald raised his right hand and a knife was visible. We can scratch that as a potential reason why Van Dyke was allegedly in fear for his life. He couldn't fear something that occurred before he arrived on the scene.
At 5:47 AA talks about the knife retrieved from the victim "....the knife has a 3-inch blade that is folded into his hand, into the handle."
http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts...-details-chicago-teen-s-shooting-573538371899
At 3:50 AA states "As he passes one of the officers he raises his right hand and a knife is visible. A few seconds later officer Van Dyke and his partner arrive and park their vehicle"......
Based on the above information Van Dyke had not yet arrived on the scene when McDonald raised his right hand and a knife was visible. We can scratch that as a potential reason why Van Dyke was allegedly in fear for his life. He couldn't fear something that occurred before he arrived on the scene.
At 5:47 AA talks about the knife retrieved from the victim "....the knife has a 3-inch blade that is folded into his hand, into the handle."
http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts...-details-chicago-teen-s-shooting-573538371899
I started a media only thread for this case.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...d-***NO-DISCUSSION***&p=12220009#post12220009
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...d-***NO-DISCUSSION***&p=12220009#post12220009
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