IL - Lt. Charles 'Joe' Gliniewicz, 52, found dead, Fox Lake, 1 Sep 2015 - #1

[i.b.nora]

So, being in a marked car, in his police uniform, with a bullet proof vest on is 'undercover'???

 

[hockeymom4]

Right,that is how an Undercover Officer works.. Not being recognizable.
So when undercover, no one would recognize them as they see them when they are undercover. Due to the fact that he was on his way to work, they would not recognize him as an undercover officer obviously. Just saying, that is what has being said to me about him being undercover.

I have not read anything in MSM that he was undercover. In fact, there is a quote in this article that says, "everyday he put on his uniform." Undercover a do not wear uniforms. That was my point and Katy's.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...er-slain-charles-gliniewicz-article-1.2351439

 

[cady]

So, being in a marked car, in his police uniform, with a bullet proof vest on is 'undercover'???

I would think that would be a perfect undercover. He would be seen as he was expected to be seen. But maybe worked for both agencies. ???JMO

 

[bluesneakers]

So, being in a marked car, in his police uniform, with a bullet proof vest on is 'undercover'???

Maybe if he's Serpico. That's the only way I can make the comment make sense, but I don't see it happening like that.

JMO.

 

[cady]

I have not read anything in MSM that he was undercover. In fact, there is a quote in this article that says, "everyday he put on his uniform." Undercover a do not wear uniforms. That was my point and Katy's.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...er-slain-charles-gliniewicz-article-1.2351439

You will not likely read in MSM that he was under cover. For good reasons. JMO

 

[Thora_Jay]

So, being in a marked car, in his police uniform, with a bullet proof vest on is 'undercover'???

He was on his way to work.

 

[katydid23]

Ok, so to clarify, you all are referring to him as being 'undercover' to his co-workers. Not undercover to the public at large. You all are referring to him being ' Internal Affairs' and pretending not to be?

 

[Thora_Jay]

I have not read anything in MSM that he was undercover. In fact, there is a quote in this article that says, "everyday he put on his uniform." Undercover a do not wear uniforms. That was my point and Katy's.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...er-slain-charles-gliniewicz-article-1.2351439

So, being in a marked car, in his police uniform, with a bullet proof vest on is 'undercover'???

Exactly. Those who are in "deep dark undercover" or even undercover, are not in uniform. They are in plain clothes and do not drive a marked car. The drive an unmarked car.p, unless his was unmarked and he was out of uniform.

Like I said in my post pertaining to the talk in the town, that is what some people are saying. Do not shoot the messenger. When I told them about some of the speculation here, they thought that some here are out of their mind in some of the posts here.

 

[Keefer]

Or a spy working for a separate gov. Agency. It is possible. Spy's are journalists, business men, etc.
this is a fun little forum plz don't spoil it by deriding creative ideas no matter how outlandish they might seem. Allow yourself (at least for awhile)the luxury to ponder things that don't make sense. Ever wonder how ground breaking discoveries of all kinds are made? This is the first step. It isn't rehashing the obvious. Don't take anything I ever say too seriously, I would not want you to get the wrong idea.

 

[cady]

Maybe in deep dark undercover going in the other direction.

OK I don't get it LOL what do you mean? JMO

 

[Thora_Jay]

Ok, so to clarify, you all are referring to him as being 'undercover' to his co-workers. Not undercover to the public at large. You all are referring to him being ' Internal Affairs' and pretending not to be?

Thank you for this question, people brought up the internal investigation and also the drug/gang investigation as the reason for being undercover.
They also brought up the fact that the new Chief was head of the Gang Task Force.

 

[bluesneakers]

OK I don't get it LOL what do you mean? JMO

I meant maybe he was undercover in the department. I don't think that's the case, just trying to work out IF he were 'undercover' how would that match up with him wearing a uniform and driving a patrol car?

 

[cady]

This speculation is taking a walk on the wild side, but I trust that Thora is simply reporting what locals are saying and thinking. This death is very mysterious for some reason. Maybe it's just local politicking or maybe it is simple. No one seems to be looking for the 2white guys and 1 black guy anymore, though. JMO

 

[cady]

I meant maybe he was undercover in the department. I don't think that's the case, just trying to work out IF he were 'undercover' how would that match up with him wearing a uniform and driving a patrol car?

OH. I had the fleeting thought that he was undercover for another agency, such that the Fox Lake Department did not know, nor did the citizens. JMO Meaning that he worked for 2 agencies.

 

[katydid23]

Thank you for this question, people brought up the internal investigation and also the drug/gang investigation as the reason for being undercover.
They also brought up the fact that the new Chief was head of the Gang Task Force.

If he was undercover as an Internal Affairs source and he was testifying against fellow officers then that would be dangerous. But there are only 5 officers in the precinct, IIRC. One was on unpaid leave, one retired, one replaced the Chief, so that just leaves one more officer as potential suspect. But that would have included the back up officers....so?

 

[cady]

If he was undercover as an Internal Affairs source and he was testifying against fellow officers then that would be dangerous. But there are only 5 officers in the precinct, IIRC. One was on unpaid leave, one retired, one replaced the Chief, so that just leaves one more officer as potential suspect. But that would have included the back up officers....so?

He did apply to be chief at Antioch, but was rejected. Then he decided to retire....(not sure of timeline,there) but an under cover job could have included Antioch? Please don't think that I think I know what was going on, just looking at possibilities.

 

[katydid23]

I have never heard of an officer working undercover for one department and then working in uniform out in public for another department. Gi Joe was a very high profile officer. He was very well known. I don't see any way he could have been undercover as a 'non' officer in any cities close by. The only way he could be considered 'undercover' , IMO, is if he was secretly working for Internal Affairs. But with such a small department, I doubt they even had one. JMO

 

[cady]

I just think that a well-known local PD officer who blends so well with his community would be a perfect candidate for a military or federal agency to have as an undercover agent. Who would ever suspect? If his cover was blown, any number of people would like to see him eliminated. JMO

 

[khaki]

If he was undercover as an Internal Affairs source and he was testifying against fellow officers then that would be dangerous. But there are only 5 officers in the precinct, IIRC. One was on unpaid leave, one retired, one replaced the Chief, so that just leaves one more officer as potential suspect. But that would have included the back up officers....so?

RE the BBM from katydid's post above: I remember when I first read that I was shocked. So I went to the Village of Fox Lake website and found out the following, which makes more sense since to me:

"The department employs 22 full-time officers, two community service officers and six part-time officers."

http://www.foxlake.org/132/Patrol

 

[Elley Mae]

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