IL - Lt. Charles 'Joe' Gliniewicz, 52, found dead, Fox Lake, 1 Sep 2015 - #4

[Walker007]

I had already said I wasnt sure about your questions regarding torso and chest, me rereading wouldnt have helped you understand anatomy.
The chest is part of the torso.

Helpful tip: when someone says they don't understand you it usually helps to try it from another angle rather than assumming they just can't read.

Well if you also read, "I said to correct me if I was wrong". I am able to corrected in an instance in which I was mistaken. That is what discussion is about. You yourself stated in prior post you didn't read the length of one of my long posts. In addition you said Not sure what your questions about torso and chest etc... are about. You didn't ask for clarification or I would have thought to better explain.

Again, it was my own perception in the way I perceived the verbiage rather than specifics.

 

[vestigare]

A torso is a torso is a torso.

A back is a torso. A side is a torso. An abdomen is a torso. A chest is a torso is a torso is a torso. Lol

 

[vestigare]

Well if you also read, "I said to correct me if I was wrong". I am able to corrected in an instance in which I was mistaken. That is what discussion is about. You yourself stated in prior post you didn't read the length of one of my long posts. In addition you said Not sure what your questions about torso and chest etc... are about. You didn't ask for clarification or I would have thought to better explain.

Again, it was my own perception in the way I perceived the verbiage rather than specifics.

I did not state I did not read this one however. I was not sure of your questions because to me they weren't asking anything because to me a chest is a torso and that was never in dispute all I was not sure what exactly you meant. Hence my question. So when I asked how Rudd was wrong you could have answered. "He said torso but filenko said chest and those are different." And I would have answered. "Well no the chest is the torso and Rudd is a doctor a n d Filenko is not so Rudd would have used anotomical terms" thus my initial confusion on your initial post.

 

[Japple]

I'd like to point out that the media perceives Fox Lake in a wrong way. By no means is it a touristy area that attracts out of towners any day of the week or any month of the year. The chain of lakes is. In the businesses on the water, or on the water itself you'd be likely to see people from out of the area. All races. Walking or driving through town you'll see the demographic make up that is available online.

 

[longlonglake]

Awhile back, the question was asked whether or not CGs bullet proof vest was worn under or over his clothes. I found 2 pictures of him wearing the vest outside.

He talked about (on Facebook) taking his vest to JG Uniforms in Chicago for alterations. I checked their website, and they make vests for the outside of the uniform. These can be custom tailored to include pockets for whatever equipment an officer might usually carry with him.

Now I understand why he was having his vest altered. After a lot of reading online, I found out that what he meant was that he was having the pocket for his Taser altered so it could fit a new model he was going to use. That's what he meant when he said from x3p to x26p. They are shaped differently. So it had nothing to with either his size or increasing the amount of bullet-proofing on the vest.

 

[cady]

So, did he carry a taser? I haven't heard anything about that 'til now. Interesting.JMO

 

[cady]

Awhile back, the question was asked whether or not CGs bullet proof vest was worn under or over his clothes. I found 2 pictures of him wearing the vest outside.

He talked about (on Facebook) taking his vest to JG Uniforms in Chicago for alterations. I checked their website, and they make vests for the outside of the uniform. These can be custom tailored to include pockets for whatever equipment an officer might usually carry with him.

Now I understand why he was having his vest altered. After a lot of reading online, I found out that what he meant was that he was having the pocket for his Taser altered so it could fit a new model he was going to use. That's what he meant when he said from x3p to x26p. They are shaped differently. So it had nothing to with either his size or increasing the amount of bullet-proofing on the vest.

TY Longlake. In your facebook travels, have you seen any photos of him with a taser? JMO

 

[Cubby]

Rudd is an elected person.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...ke-Investigation-327949911.html#ixzz3nohL2Za7

Certainly, Dr. Rudd should be in communication with the pathologist in his office on such an important case? His own pathologist had issued a statement in earlier articles that he was not releasing information at the request of the task force due to their ongoing investigation. He seemed to be able to adhere to their request professionally.



That's emotional. And bruised ego.

Frankly, I could rip apart RUDD in all of his statements and just may do that later. More frustrated by the more I read and review his interviews.

Here Dr. Rudd states himself this determination can't be made:
Asked if Gliniewicz had been shot at close range or from a distance, the coroner said the autopsy results did not support one answer over the other.
“I can’t tell if he was shot close, or far. I have a suspicion, but I need proof.”

Does anyone else find ANYTHING in the very least, wrong with this picture?

Further and FINALLY. Here is the kicker which nobody else has mentioned that I have seen.

HEADLINE:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-police-shooting-met-0910-20150909-story.html




Funny, it looks like to me that Dr. Rudd was creating his own rumors. How much does he communicate with his own pathologist. He didn't even release correct information. Someone correct me if I am wrong here. Did Filenko even demonstrate for us the area of the torso that was hit by the vest?

FILENKO at latest presser:

Hopefully, they have been seeking secondary outside experts opinions on the area of the autopsy.

And I could rip Filenko apart. We have msm documentation of Filenko's mistakes. It's clear Rudd is a threat to the task force because he has put an end to pushing things through without the evidence to support it. I'm pretty sure if the former coroner was there this would have already been ruled a homicide even though there is not enough evidence to support homicide. Those past mistakes are going to end up costing Lake county so e big bucks.

 

[vestigare]

TY Longlake. In your facebook travels, have you seen any photos of him with a taser? JMO

Try this photo.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1267911
Not sure what all the toys are. I think the taser may be the one on his left (our right) below what looks like a cell phone pocket.
Typically your taser should be halstered on your non dominant hand side so you don't confuse your gun and taser.

I think the pepper spray is in the double pocket in front of the gun.

 

[cady]

Try this photo.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1267911
Not sure what all the toys are.

I'm totally ignorant as to what they are, lol. I sort of thought that if a taser is carried, it is on the opposite side of the gun, depending on whether the cop is left or right handed. Looks like a gun on the right? JMO

 

[vestigare]

I'm totally ignorant as to what they are, lol. I sort of thought that if a taser is carried, it is on the opposite side of the gun, depending on whether the cop is left or right handed. Looks like a gun on the right? JMO

Yes, he is right handed and the taser should be carried on the non dom side.
I had just added that to my post before I saw your question. Lol

 

[vestigare]

I'm totally ignorant as to what they are, lol. I sort of thought that if a taser is carried, it is on the opposite side of the gun, depending on whether the cop is left or right handed. Looks like a gun on the right? JMO

Another question for the task force.
Was he wearing the taser that day and was it used or even accessed?

 

[Cubby]

It really looks like it would be difficult for someone other than LT. CG to get a shot under the vest. I would guess he was wearing short sleaves when he was shot, though I'm not sure if that would have any impact on any gap between his body and the vest.

Was his vest loose fitting after having lost weight?
Has the rapid weight loss been ruled out as having been caused by by a health issue?

 

[cady]

It really looks like it would be difficult for someone other than LT. CG to get a shot under the vest. I would guess he was wearing short sleaves when he was shot, though I'm not sure if that would have any impact on any gap between his body and the vest.

Was his vest loose fitting after having lost weight?
Has the rapid weight loss been ruled out as having been caused by by a health issue?

Don't know when he got the new vest and when he reported losing weight. JMO...In the above photo he looks heavier, so is that the old vest or new? Dunno JMO

 

[vestigare]

It really looks like it would be difficult for someone other than LT. CG to get a shot under the vest. I would guess he was wearing short sleaves when he was shot, though I'm not sure if that would have any impact on any gap between his body and the vest.

Was his vest loose fitting after having lost weight?
Has the rapid weight loss been ruled out as having been caused by by a health issue?

Also I don't think Filenko was very specific on exactly where the fatal shot entered. Would be nice to get a diagram of that.

 

[cady]

Also I don't think Filenko was very specific on exactly where the fatal shot entered. Would be nice to get a diagram of that.

Wasn't the fatal shot in a downward trajectory, or is that just hearsay? JMO

 

[vestigare]

http://crimewatchdaily.com/videos/0-sk9jprum/
'GI JOE'S WIDOW: 'NOT ONE WORD' FROM PRES. OBAMA

At least she asked for someone to come forward....

 

[vestigare]

Wasn't the fatal shot in a downward trajectory, or is that just hearsay? JMO

At this point I am so lost on what is official and what isn't.

But I am thinking it could still go downward and be shot from the shoulder gap with his left hand. Or downward from the neck gap. Would be nice to know which. All Filneko offered in the last presser was left side chest.

 

[cady]

If there was a taser, it must not have been used, or we would have heard about it methinks. If there was an unused taser, we probably would not hear about it. JMO

 

[scmom]

I hope Mrs. Gliniewicz doesn't hold her breath waiting on a call from the White House. Not going to happen.