GUILTY IL - Riley Fox, 3, Wilmington, 6 June 2004

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  • #41
Prayers today for the Fox Family. Today would have been Riley's 5th birthday. I am sure she is shining down on her new baby sister and smiling away!

God Bless Her Soul!!
 
  • #42
Maddy's Mom said:
Prayers today for the Fox Family. Today would have been Riley's 5th birthday. I am sure she is shining down on her new baby sister and smiling away!

God Bless Her Soul!!


:( :( :( :( Thanks for the reminder darlin.

For Riley:

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  • #43
So strange, I was thinking about Riley today having no idea it would have been her birthday. May her killer be brought to justice soon!
 
  • #44
Nobody has forgotten about Riley; her family, Zellner and her office, nor the police department and dedicated detectives along with many many many others that pray each night that the killer is found and prosecuted to the fullest. Happy Birthday, little angel.
 
  • #45
TangledWishes said:
Nobody has forgotten about Riley; her family, Zellner and her office, nor the police department and "dedicated" detectives along with many many many others that pray each night that the killer is found and prosecuted to the fullest. Happy Birthday, little angel.
One of the biggest crimes in this case is that there are no, nor have there ever been any "dedicated" detectives on this case -- in any connotation of the word "dedicated." If there had been, there would have been a chance of catching the killer a long time ago when the trail was fresh.

Now the trail is so cold, I think all we are getting is lip service from LE here.

Remember all you Will County voters out there, the Sheriff's election is in November. Vote for Rich Girot and send Kaupus and the six thugs that interrogated Kevin to the unemployment lines so they can be reunited with their old buddy Jeff Tomczak.
 
  • #46
genecam said:
One of the biggest crimes in this case is that there are no, nor have there ever been any "dedicated" detectives on this case -- in any connotation of the word "dedicated." If there had been, there would have been a chance of catching the killer a long time ago when the trail was fresh.

Now the trail is so cold, I think all we are getting is lip service from LE here.

Remember all you Will County voters out there, the Sheriff's election is in November. Vote for Rich Girot and send Kaupus and the six thugs that interrogated Kevin to the unemployment lines so they can be reunited with their old buddy Jeff Tomczak.



Another big crime in this case is the way they focused in on Kevin right away so much that they weren't even looking for anyone else. They may have gotten the "real" killer if they hadn't had such tunnel vision.

Sure sounds to me like they need a whole new bunch in there. The people have the vote and the power to get the rotten eggs out. They just need to use it.

I agree that a case always needs at least one dedicated detective that swears he will keep looking until he retires. Someone with a passion for justice for your loved one.
 
  • #47
Maddy's Mom said:
Prayers today for the Fox Family. Today would have been Riley's 5th birthday. I am sure she is shining down on her new baby sister and smiling away!

God Bless Her Soul!!



Do you have any idea what they named the baby?
 
  • #48
Bobbisangel said:
Do you have any idea what they named the baby?
No, sorry, I do not. I wrote to Chad to send congratulations to them and I asked him what they named her, but he did not reply.
 
  • #49
Small Update:

Riley Fox murder case: Father charges he was falsely imprisoned

A federal judge denied every count but one of a motion to dismiss the lawsuit alleging a conspiracy to falsely imprison — and possibly condemn — Kevin Fox for the rape and murder of his 3-year-old daughter.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/city/4_1_jo02_fox_s1.htm
 
  • #50
Maddy's Mom said:
Small Update:

Riley Fox murder case: Father charges he was falsely imprisoned

A federal judge denied every count but one of a motion to dismiss the lawsuit alleging a conspiracy to falsely imprison — and possibly condemn — Kevin Fox for the rape and murder of his 3-year-old daughter.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/city/4_1_jo02_fox_s1.htm
One thing that really bothers me in this article is the following quote from State's Attorney Jim Glasgow:

Glasgow downplayed the significance of the judge's ruling on the motion. "The court was required on this preliminary motion to view the allegations in the light most favorable to the plaintiffs," he said. "This ruling clearly does not mean that they will prevail on the merits. We will continue to vigorously defend this matter."

He is supposedly conducting an investigation to be "vigorously" pursuing Riley Fox's murderer.

It seems to me to be a huge conflict of interest for him to both "vigorously defend" this matter (fighting the civil suit)" and simultaneously "vigorously" investigating the murder of the daughter of people who are suing him.

I recall Melissa Fox, shortly after Kevin's release, saying that Will County, Glasgow and Kaupus had a huge conflict of interest and could not adequately investigate Riley's murder because they were defending against the civil suit, and wanted Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan to intervene and investigate the case. Madigan said she could not unless Will County voluntarily ceded authority to here.

At the time, Glasgow said there was no conflict of interest and that he would "vigorously" investigate this case with a fresh team of investigators.

I never thought any Will County investigators could take a "fresh" look at this case. Glasgow's statement only reinforces my opinion.

I think the only thing Will County Law Enforcement has shown in this case is a "vigorous" pursuit of idiocy, buffoonery, dishonesty and hypocrisy.

I see that Sheriff Kaupus was dismissed as a defendant in the civil suit. Will County voters - let's dismiss Kaupus as Sheriff by voting him out of office in November. Remember to vote for Rich Girot for Sheriff and tell all your friends and neighbors what dishonest, incompetent nitwits Kaupus and his detectives are.
 
  • #51
genecam said:
One thing that really bothers me in this article is the following quote from State's Attorney Jim Glasgow:

Glasgow downplayed the significance of the judge's ruling on the motion. "The court was required on this preliminary motion to view the allegations in the light most favorable to the plaintiffs," he said. "This ruling clearly does not mean that they will prevail on the merits. We will continue to vigorously defend this matter."

He is supposedly conducting an investigation to be "vigorously" pursuing Riley Fox's murderer.

It seems to me to be a huge conflict of interest for him to both "vigorously defend" this matter (fighting the civil suit)" and simultaneously "vigorously" investigating the murder of the daughter of people who are suing him.

I recall Melissa Fox, shortly after Kevin's release, saying that Will County, Glasgow and Kaupus had a huge conflict of interest and could not adequately investigate Riley's murder because they were defending against the civil suit, and wanted Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan to intervene and investigate the case. Madigan said she could not unless Will County voluntarily ceded authority to here.

At the time, Glasgow said there was no conflict of interest and that he would "vigorously" investigate this case with a fresh team of investigators.

I never thought any Will County investigators could take a "fresh" look at this case. Glasgow's statement only reinforces my opinion.

I think the only thing Will County Law Enforcement has shown in this case is a "vigorous" pursuit of idiocy, buffoonery, dishonesty and hypocrisy.

I see that Sheriff Kaupus was dismissed as a defendant in the civil suit. Will County voters - let's dismiss Kaupus as Sheriff by voting him out of office in November. Remember to vote for Rich Girot for Sheriff and tell all your friends and neighbors what dishonest, incompetent nitwits Kaupus and his detectives are.
What do you expect? It's Illinois politics. The seediest in the country. :bang:
 
  • #52
genecam said:
One thing that really bothers me in this article is the following quote from State's Attorney Jim Glasgow:

Glasgow downplayed the significance of the judge's ruling on the motion. "The court was required on this preliminary motion to view the allegations in the light most favorable to the plaintiffs," he said. "This ruling clearly does not mean that they will prevail on the merits. We will continue to vigorously defend this matter."

He is supposedly conducting an investigation to be "vigorously" pursuing Riley Fox's murderer.

It seems to me to be a huge conflict of interest for him to both "vigorously defend" this matter (fighting the civil suit)" and simultaneously "vigorously" investigating the murder of the daughter of people who are suing him.

I recall Melissa Fox, shortly after Kevin's release, saying that Will County, Glasgow and Kaupus had a huge conflict of interest and could not adequately investigate Riley's murder because they were defending against the civil suit, and wanted Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan to intervene and investigate the case. Madigan said she could not unless Will County voluntarily ceded authority to here.

At the time, Glasgow said there was no conflict of interest and that he would "vigorously" investigate this case with a fresh team of investigators.

I never thought any Will County investigators could take a "fresh" look at this case. Glasgow's statement only reinforces my opinion.

I think the only thing Will County Law Enforcement has shown in this case is a "vigorous" pursuit of idiocy, buffoonery, dishonesty and hypocrisy.

I see that Sheriff Kaupus was dismissed as a defendant in the civil suit. Will County voters - let's dismiss Kaupus as Sheriff by voting him out of office in November. Remember to vote for Rich Girot for Sheriff and tell all your friends and neighbors what dishonest, incompetent nitwits Kaupus and his detectives are.
Genecam, I agree. Sadly, it doesn't look like Riley will ever get justice. At least not in this lifetime.
 
  • #53
"Stunning victory"? Leave it to Zellner to spin good news out of nothing. She's amusing, I'll give her that.
 
  • #54
Has anything come of the sex offender/sleazy old man who was living nearby? Has he been ruled out? Chances are, this wasn't the first time Riley's killer killed. (my opinion) There may be other murders with similarities. Was Riley's body found in a nearby river? There was a little girl in Iowa who was taken right out of her living room somehow while her dad was sleeping. She was found in a river. I would guess the killer knew it would ruin some of the evidence if he put her in water.
 
  • #55
laini said:
Has anything come of the sex offender/sleazy old man who was living nearby? Has he been ruled out? Chances are, this wasn't the first time Riley's killer killed. (my opinion) There may be other murders with similarities. Was Riley's body found in a nearby river? There was a little girl in Iowa who was taken right out of her living room somehow while her dad was sleeping. She was found in a river. I would guess the killer knew it would ruin some of the evidence if he put her in water.


Yes, her body was in water. I think the only person whose been ruled out is her father. We don't know much else about this case. Because of the civil lawsuit pending, we'll hear very little.
 
  • #56
Jeana (DP) said:
Yes, her body was in water. I think the only person whose been ruled out is her father. We don't know much else about this case. Because of the civil lawsuit pending, we'll hear very little.
Ok. Thanks for answering. :) Maybe in the future we will get more info.
 
  • #57
Kevin Fox, the father, has not been ruled out. He was merely released pending further investigation.

There is nothing to suggest Riley's killer had prior bad acts.
 
  • #58
All charges against Kevin Fox were dismissed when the judge granted a "nolo pros" motion made by the State's Attorney. The DNA tests and a subsequent confirmation retest positively and definitively excluded Kevin Fox and all other male members of the Fox and Rossi families. There is no ongoing investigation of any of them.

There is supposedly an ongoing investigation by a "fresh" (hah!) team of new investigators from the Will County Sheriff's Office and State's Attorney's Office. Nothing of interest has been reported from those investigators, and I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation of hearing anything soon.

Southwood's DNA was tested because they are testing the DNA of all sex offenders arrested in the area to see if there is a match to the DNA found on Riley. I doubt that Southwood was Riley's murderer. It does not fit his MO at all. This just shows how cold the trail really is, and how bereft of direction this investigation really is.

Next week will be the second anniversary of Riley's death - 730 days. Of those 730 days, they had Kevin imprisoned for 240 of them, and they only interviewed 2 people from July - October 2004, about 120 of them. That's about 1 year right there. Kevin was released from jail almost a year ago, and all we have seen since then is Southwood's arrest and DNA testing - which will likely amount to nothing regarding the Fox case.

That's almost the entire two years of "investigation" right there.

What a great job - the "fresh" team looks just like the "stale" team to me - except the "fresh" team doesn't have anyone for Kaupus to "roll the bones" on before this year's election to try and save his a$$. I sure hope he gets what he deserves - and it's not "four more years."
 
  • #59
Kevin Fox has not been cleared. The DNA is meaningless. Investigation is continuing but that doesn't mean Kevin won't wind up back in the pokey, this time for good.
 
  • #60
halycon said:
Kevin Fox has not been cleared. The DNA is meaningless. Investigation is continuing but that doesn't mean Kevin won't wind up back in the pokey, this time for good.


I'm not exactly sure what the hang up seems to be with regard to your opinion, but the DNA is not "meaningless," and Kevin has indeed been excluded as being the source of the DNA.

The DNA testing of evidence resulted in an "absolute exclusion of Kevin Fox as a donor," State's Atty. James Glasgow told the judge.


I think the State's Attorney General knows a bit more about this than any of us do. You may not like the results, but they are indeed the results.
 
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