Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #148

[Schatz]

Did it ever come up in that 190 page interrogation? Where's our folks with great memories?

KAK waiting in a car during the crime? Absolutely not.

 

[Schatz]

Thank you for linking this.
I have also linked it before and transcribed part of it previously.

Important details coming from Anna Williams.

Around 8 mins in:

AW: "What we were told when we were brought in to see the second sketches..... we've run this first sketch....we feel like we know who this person might be, or we've cleared up this particular person and now we are going to look at another person that other people also noticed might have been there that day and now we would like to talk to that person."

A moment later she goes on to say what LE communicated to her about the change in direction:

AW:"Now we want to see who else may have seen this person because we have talked to everybody else concerning the first person."

Things that make you go hmmmm.

JMO

Wow. I wonder who they determined the "first person" to be, then.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

Wow. I wonder who they determined the "first person" to be, then.

JMO

CE
(Arrested Jan 8, 2019)

 

[Ravenmoon]

JMO

CE
(Arrested Jan 8, 2019l

Yep.
Agree 100 percent.

 

[Schatz]

JMO

CE
(Arrested Jan 8, 2019)

And he just happened to be there and spotted that day? Or is involved?

 

[bradfordsleuth]

And he just happened to be there and spotted that day? Or is involved?

An undercover sting caught him tryng to have sex with a minor.

I don't think its a stretch that someone like him can run in the same circles as KAK and was there due to info he had received.

Editing to apologize if my response sounded snippy - not my attention. I am sorry!

All JMO

 

[kkdj]

KAK waiting in a car during the crime? Absolutely not.

That's pretty much what I think too.
If he was there he was present, not waiting in the car.

 

[swedeheart]

 

[Silver_produce0]

JMO

CE
(Arrested Jan 8, 2019)

His resemblance to OBG sketch is scary

 

[FrostedGlass]

G

Thank you. I thought I was the only one unsure about the red Jeep. The first time I listened I was tired so I listened again. And now I’ll have to listen once more because I’m surprised reading here how so many others interpreted it.
I also respect the MS podcast. They know that some don’t and today’s episode included some clarification from them (again) on why they are focused on the Klines. They aren’t just choosing that angle — it is the only active angle in the case right now and has been since they began podcasting about this case. I think anyone who thinks they don’t deserve some respect could do the fair thing and listen at least to that part of today’s episode.

I have a bit of a problem with MS; I find they often use trigger words within a statement containing a lot of wiggle room. For instance, when they were talking about what KAK said about the red jeep, she began with "in a nutshell" so we have no idea what else he said.

So we jump from this: " "in a nutshell, while a different other person was committing the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, that Kegan Kline himself was waiting in a red jeep vehicle" to thinking it was a confession of some sort.

And then they throw this in "if (Kegan Kline) says John Doe committed the murders..." some of us may choose to overlook that it may just an example. Then, they use the word "witness' and that takes us farther down the path.

Now the issue becomes 'are they dropping clues or just stimulating our interest?'

 

[TheProblemWeAllLiveWith]

I have a bit of a problem with MS; I find they often use trigger words within a statement containing a lot of wiggle room. For instance, when they were talking about what KAK said about the red jeep, she began with "in a nutshell" so we have no idea what else he said.

So we jump from this: " "in a nutshell, while a different other person was committing the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, that Kegan Kline himself was waiting in a red jeep vehicle" to thinking it was a confession of some sort.

And then they throw this in "if (Kegan Kline) says John Doe committed the murders..." some of us may choose to overlook that it may just an example. Then, they use the word "witness' and that takes us farther down the path.

Now the issue becomes 'are they dropping clues or just stimulating our interest?'

This is a valid criticism of MS, one of the few genuine ones I’ve seen. I’m sure it’s hard to rein themselves in if they are sitting on info like some suspect they may be. I hope MS will be extra vigilant with their writing as we do tend to parse every word around here.

 

[FrostedGlass]

This is a valid criticism of MS, one of the few genuine ones I’ve seen. I’m sure it’s hard to rein themselves in if they are sitting on info like some suspect they may be. I hope MS will be extra vigilant with their writing as we do tend to parse every word around here.

He's an attorney and should be fully aware of where his podcasts lead the listeners. I think we have a tendency to not listen carefully and just hear the trigger words.

 

[FromGermany1]

JMO

CE
(Arrested Jan 8, 2019)

His look and character: very fitting. But I wonder.

 

[sandy_80]

Thank you for linking this.
I have also linked it before and transcribed part of it previously.

Important details coming from Anna Williams.

Around 8 mins in:

AW: "What we were told when we were brought in to see the second sketches..... we've run this first sketch....we feel like we know who this person might be, or we've cleared up this particular person and now we are going to look at another person that other people also noticed might have been there that day and now we would like to talk to that person."

A moment later she goes on to say what LE communicated to her about the change in direction:

AW:"Now we want to see who else may have seen this person because we have talked to everybody else concerning the first person."

Things that make you go hmmmm.

JMO

yes...this is one of the many things that makes zero sense in this case
how can they know that person ? was it someone who looked like bg EXACTLY WHO WAS ON THE TRAILS AND THEY CLEARED HIM ? we have a video image that cant be tied to many ppl .. that what makes me have no faith in this investigation

 

[ScumbagTrav]

JMO

CE
(Arrested Jan 8, 2019)

Forgive my ignorance, but if he was arrested, and this is on public record and likely public news reports on this arrest, why can't his name be said or a link shared?

Not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a grasp on things here, still.

 

[Ravenmoon]

Forgive my ignorance, but if he was arrested, and this is on public record and likely public news reports on this arrest, why can't his name be said or a link shared?

Not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a grasp on things here, still.

I am not 100 percent sure, but my guess is that since he has turned out to have no link to Delphi and the murders of A&L, we can't put his information out there.

If there were a thread about him or his case- it would be relevant.

JMO

 

[ScumbagTrav]

I am not 100 percent sure, but my guess is that since he has turned out to have no link to Delphi and the murders of A&L, we can't put his information out there.

If there were a thread about him or his case- it would be relevant.

JMO

Thanks! I can see that, but if he were indeed sketch #1 then he would be related to Delphi, right? At least, related to the story itself.

It's strange that a public article about an arrested Sex Offender wouldn't be allowed. But like I said, I'm still trying to get used to things here.

 

[IQuestion]

His look and character: very fitting. But I wonder.

I feel there was a statewide clean up going on parallel to the Delphi case for at least 18 months and then "out of the blue" a few crumbs emerged and lead to A-Shots persona a little later on in the open investigation. Quoting, “The only positive result from these actions is it keeps this open investigation in the mind of the public," he continued. Charles Andrew Eldridge, 46, was arrested on January 8 during an undercover sting in Union City,"

Accused child molester investigated in 2017 murders of Indiana teens: report

Police are investigating the possibility of a connection between a man arrested for child molestation and the murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana in 2017.

www.foxnews.com

**Personal thoughts: KAK is a prolific addict of CSAM and was eventually going to pop up on the radar of the dark web. As my Dad would say, "You aren't going to catch a rat with the lights on. Bait your trap, turn off the lights and then just wait." Once local LE had been notified of A_S/KAK coming up on their radar, the re-examination of KAK began in earnest. KAK was the crippled Keyser Soze, over looked by everyone ..even LE. The Usual Suspects Quotes - MagicalQuote
***I am just providing link to a published, main stream news story. I think it is ok if you provide valid links.

 

[tokyorose]

This is a valid criticism of MS, one of the few genuine ones I’ve seen. I’m sure it’s hard to rein themselves in if they are sitting on info like some suspect they may be. I hope MS will be extra vigilant with their writing as we do tend to parse every word around here.

MOO, but I really pray today is the day and I get the feeling (MOO) that we will see an arrest within the week. The next few days will be busy ones here on this thread if I'm right. Sitting right here ( and on my hands) praying for justice for two innocent girls destroyed by evil.

 

[Marzipan]

I have a bit of a problem with MS; I find they often use trigger words within a statement containing a lot of wiggle room. For instance, when they were talking about what KAK said about the red jeep, she began with "in a nutshell" so we have no idea what else he said.

So we jump from this: " "in a nutshell, while a different other person was committing the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, that Kegan Kline himself was waiting in a red jeep vehicle" to thinking it was a confession of some sort.

And then they throw this in "if (Kegan Kline) says John Doe committed the murders..." some of us may choose to overlook that it may just an example. Then, they use the word "witness' and that takes us farther down the path.

Now the issue becomes 'are they dropping clues or just stimulating our interest?'

That’s fair criticism. That episode was one they said they winged and probably not all the words came out right. I know it wasn’t all clear to me. They chose fast over good production that time. But, in general, I don’t think they are trying to drop clues but just tell us what they can in a pretty objective way. But what they can tell us has its limits, as does what they can be sure about themselves.