IN-Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #52

[Floridian]

If you don't see the goatee, then I guess you can't sit with me (kidding of course. we are all sitting here.) It's one of those things that I definitely see. Very neatly trimmed. Not bushy and very close to the face. Perhaps hard to see under his huge nose.

Also I keep wondering about scent dogs. I wish they'd used them to see if the girls had started walking towards one of their homes. Even though they found the bodies, following a scent on one of the roads would be helpful.

They did have some black dogs out there with a vest on.. Not sure what kind though..

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[whiskers]

The last interview with LE destroyed what little optimism I had. Saying optimism isn't high and begging for tips to identify the man on the bridge, tells me that do NOT have a clue. moo, of course

Agree. And then the upcoming TV program by an Indiana channel.... hoping for new tips. Disheartening.

Not coming down on LE, but they need a new comment aside for asking for tips. I think the families and people of Delphi are beyond that.

 

[Maplesyrup]

I need to know if anyone can tell me what you notice about BG's nose. Do others agree his eyes appear close set ? I have a reason for asking.

 

[Bemused]

If Satan has a human voice that is how he would sound imo!

That disembodied voice sounds normal except that we know what the girls' fate would become. It's like looking at a mugshot and thinking the person staring back looks like a criminal. Maybe if you're talking Charles Manson but if you looked at Ted Bundy you might think fraud or some white collar rap, not serial killer, IMO.

 

[St. Anthony2017]

i think the fact that they have not released more is because they don't need to.

Agreed. As I've said before - I think if LE had the suspect in custody already or even if they knew who he was and had him under surveillance.. surely they would have given an optimistic response.

jmo

Maybe they know who it is but he is off their radar and hasn't returned to his normal place where he is a RSO perhaps . He may be a parole absconder.There are numerous ones all over the country.

 

[Floridian]

I always noticed a rectangular object resting at a 45 degree angle below the handgun on the inside right of his jacket. This object is particularly noticeable in the darker frame. To me the object has small knob-like protrusions at each corner. It had been bothering me because I knew something that looked just like it but couldn't quite place it. Call me crazy because this is oddly specific, but it looks a lot like my daughter's iPad mini in an otterbox defender case.

I apologize because I know this observation doesn't greatly add to the discourse here but I just wanted to throw that out. My current opinion is that BG is an Sk given that LEO have given the impression that this was a horrific scene and the fact that he has eluded identification might suggest that he is a loner.
If he is an SK he could have used the iPad to document his crimes, leaving his cell phone at home to avoid leaving any kind of electronic signature in the area.

Lastly, these girls experienced something that fortunately most of us will never experience. That feeling is Terror. I pray to God they get this monster


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Thank you for that.. I do wonder if he's a sk, a sk from that area.. I feel as though he seemed to know they were there. Whether he tracked them or someone else was helping him by telling him they would be there..

A thought had crossed my mind, many think it was personal. I have wondered if one of them had beena victim of sexual abuse and was getting ready to come clean about it, and that would've caused him to be irate and" brutal" if that's the truth... I've tried thinking of reasons someone could be so brutal as it's being said. Unless he is a sk, or Satan. From things we've all heard if this is done out if hate or something like that I've wondered if this could have provoked him. This is only a thought.. Moo. It's hard reading a person like this without knowing anything or the motive, and I sure as hell can't get In a mind like that....wouldn't even know where to start..and wouldn't even want too. That's a dark dark dark place..

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[lateralus73]

Welcome Later, Perhaps you should call this in? Are you saying the journo published his pics early and therefore it seems suspicious?

I was pointing out the suspicion of his photos only for the purposes of identifying the individual without really identifying the individual. I did exchange some PM's with a couple of members and they also see what I see. I was able to analyze additional photos of this person and, honestly, I see some distinct similarities to BG. Another thing that piqued my curiousity was an earlier post where someone mentioned it appeared BG was wearing a duffer type hat similar to one Q from Impractical Jokers wears. Wouldn't you know, this person has multiple photos wearing similar hats? One of them is a darker shade of brown, and in a grainy photo such as the video stills of BG that LE have provided, that shade of brown would match the color of the alleged hoodie, and if worn a little lower on the head with that angle of lighting would produce the possible illusion of a hoodie, IMO, due to the shape. It's a long shot, but there is really just something about that distinct nose, along with the facial hair this individual was known to have had just prior to the incident. I believe I still have contact info for a former colleague who should still be with ISP and I am putting something together to send to them. It never hurts to try and point something out.

 

[Maplesyrup]

Okay, sorry to be persistent but I need input. BG's face. Please look at his nose, specifically the LEFT side of his nose. I mean HIS left side. Does it look misshapen to you? Do others see a salt/pepper mustache? Do we think a possible height may be 5'11' maybe around 215 pounds? I think I am seeing close set dark eyes.

 

[Hazelnutty]

BRAVO. Great thoughts/opinions/facts, imho. Thanks for sharing them.

Thank you, OkieChance. Typed it on my phone & it shows. Appreciate your kind words & your profile pic. Reminds me of my first true Love, Fox Mulder.

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[Floridian]

I need to know if anyone can tell me what you notice about BG's nose. Do others agree his eyes appear close set ? I have a reason for asking.

Yes

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[St. Anthony2017]

i think the fact that they have not released more is because they don't need to.

Next week?

Maybe the special will be about how they solved the case and we helped!!!

 

[St. Anthony2017]

i think the fact that they have not released more is because they don't need to.

IMOO!!!

BG does not have a goatee.
BG is not wearing a water bag, cath bag or the like.
BG does not have his pants unzipped.
BG does not have his johnson in his hand.
BG does not have a walmart bag tucked up under his chin,
BG does not have ski goggles, or any other type of googles around his neck.
BG does not have a gun, taser, or anything of the like down his leg, on the inside of his pants. Good grief, I mean really?
BG does not have blood on the front of his pants.

BG is wearing jeans.
BG is wearing a navy windbreaker.
BG is wearing a brown or camo type hoodie.
BG is wearing a camo type cap.
BG is a white male.
BG appears to be a little heavy in his middle.
BG is a worthless !

All just MOO!

BG is the picture of evil personified!!imo

 

[Deleted member 196796]

Okay, sorry to be persistent but I need input. BG's face. Please look at his nose, specifically the LEFT side of his nose. I mean HIS left side. Does it look misshapen to you? Do others see a salt/pepper mustache? Do we think a possible height may be 5'11' maybe around 215 pounds? I think I am seeing close set dark eyes.

Im with you Maple.

 

[Hazelnutty]

What in the world are you talking about?

Organ harvesting?

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[lateralus73]

Accusations? Not at all. I am saying that any photo that shows a bright round circle at the location of his hand, with the implication that it is a watch, has been altered with filters that change the photo. I think this is obvious to anyone who regularly uses professional photo imaging software such as Adobe Photoshop.

The photo on the left has been circulated as an accurate inverted photo. The image on the right has been inverted using photoshop without any additional modifications. They are not the same. Why not? Furthermore, why are we relying on an inverted photo with filters to interpret what appears to be his right hand?

I see a lot of people going back and forth with this "bright circle" thing, so I think I'll go ahead and weigh in here. In my experience, it appears the ONLY thing LE "altered" in this pic was the brightness level in order to show a bit more detail in the shadows of the dark blue jacket. What you need to do is compare the brightness of that "circle" to the side of the face in the light. If you pay close attention you'll see it pretty much matches. It is simply the light shining on the skin of the back of the hand. It APPEARS to be much brighter simply because it is in close proximity to the dark color of the jacket. It may be reflecting a bit more light than the side of the face simply because it is more of a flat surface than the roundness of cheeks, etc. If you add in the possibility of facial hair as well, the face won't reflect as much light to the video/camera source as the flat surface of the hand will. Playing with brightness levels and inverting the image will just cause continued confusion and alter the image more than necessary. If you use Gimp or Photoshop, adjust the color levels a little bit or add a bit of saturation and you should start to see the skin tone. IMO, clearly no watch. Hope this helps clear that issue up.

 

[Bemused]

I was pointing out the suspicion of his photos only for the purposes of identifying the individual without really identifying the individual. I did exchange some PM's with a couple of members and they also see what I see. I was able to analyze additional photos of this person and, honestly, I see some distinct similarities to BG. Another thing that piqued my curiousity was an earlier post where someone mentioned it appeared BG was wearing a duffer type hat similar to one Q from Impractical Jokers wears. Wouldn't you know, this person has multiple photos wearing similar hats? One of them is a darker shade of brown, and in a grainy photo such as the video stills of BG that LE have provided, that shade of brown would match the color of the alleged hoodie, and if worn a little lower on the head with that angle of lighting would produce the possible illusion of a hoodie, IMO, due to the shape. It's a long shot, but there is really just something about that distinct nose, along with the facial hair this individual was known to have had just prior to the incident. I believe I still have contact info for a former colleague who should still be with ISP and I am putting something together to send to them. It never hurts to try and point something out.

Is that K K-something Surname photog?

 

[Bemused]

Organ harvesting?

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Any reason to believe it happened in this case with a "pristine" crime scene?

 

[Bemused]

Maybe they know who it is but he is off their radar and hasn't returned to his normal place where he is a RSO perhaps . He may be a parole absconder.There are numerous ones all over the country.

But they wouldn't ask the public's help finding him and publish his photos and physical description to aid in the search?

Not everyone notices those, though. Look who turned in that Cummins guy with the student. Not because he recognized them but because the guy was acting strangely and the girl barely spoke so he called police. Just like the woman who knew something was off with Denise Huber's killer and her body was in a freezer in a rental truck with an electrical extension cord running from it to a socket.

 

[Floridian]

Shout out... we have good little private eyes/sleuthers... 👍 everybody is doing great..it's a warm feeling to have you all in such a terrible situation. I would definitely want you guys on My case if I ever had one.. Keep up the good work..

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[Bird of Paradise]

Any reason to believe it happened in this case with a "pristine" crime scene?

I kind of wish the word "pristine" would stop being used as if it is the end all of descriptions. Yes we all know who said it. LE did not. And considering the posts that reflect LE as THE ones with the correct info, I'd like to view some alternative ideas to one man/reporter's use of the word pristine.