IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #5

[Melanie]

There are more than a few articles here and on the net that reference this ****s harming children and sending pics of his genitals to a 13 year old.


If need be I can DROP the R in RSO and post sex offender.
imoo

Aside from the sexual crimes he committed against the 13 year old, TS would have known about his other crimes, right? He seemed to have lived in some of the same places, and Ali's own God-Mother was his "very good friend".

I'd say there's a snowball chance in he11 that she didn't know this guy was a criminal on some level.

With that said, would you let any good family male friend babysit your three girls with a criminal past?

And I'm not even asking her to run a background check! The bio-dad knew him, the grandpappy knew him, the god-mother knew him, and bio-mommy said she'd known him for years. Ya can't tell me not a single one of em didn't know he was a criminal. I'd find that a very difficult pill to swallow.

MOO

Mel

 

[billisbobby]

Oh I think we can all agree he was that! So...a mother is supposed to know someone is a sex offender?

Is there any evidence that anyone knew any of the (pretty much established) SOs were indeed SOs?

Here's a snippet from an article I referenced above. The mother WORRIED about moving her children there due to the RSO's.

Here you go--------

she worried about neighbors with sex offense records who had been helping her father get by, according to trailer park residents. And before she arrived, she even asked her father if her children could be at risk for abuse from two specific men

 

[billisbobby]

Aside from the sexual crimes he committed against the 13 year old, TS would have known about his other crimes, right? He seemed to have lived in some of the same places, and Ali's own God-Mother was his "very good friend".

I'd say there's a snowball chance in he11 that she didn't know this guy was a criminal on some level.

With that said, would you let any good family male friend babysit your three girls with a criminal past?

And I'm not even asking her to run a background check! The bio-dad knew him, the grandpappy knew him, the god-mother knew him, and bio-mommy said she'd known him for years. Ya can't tell me not a single one of em didn't know he was a criminal. I'd find that a very difficult pill to swallow.

MOO

Mel

Exactly on all points Mel!

 

[Norwegian]

Happy New Year!

Look at this gorgeous girl. I agree with Nany Grace that she could be on the cover of a kids magazine. Aliahna, I'm so happy you are in a better place! Too good for this earth you are!

I highly doubt that Aliahna had all the medical problems they are claiming. I think it was psychosomatically and I think the mental labels put on the child was simply her acting out and reacting to her situation.

BTW; do anyone know MP had any kids of his own? I haven't heard of any girlfriends or kids, but would be interesting to know.

 

[mysteriew]

I am seeing some assumtions here that so far I don't think we really know.

First Mom's appearance apparently has changed quite a bit according to several comments. And that is being attributed to drugs. That's entirely possible. But I don't see where she has ever been charged with any drug related offenses, or did I miss something? I'd like to point out that chronic or debilitating illnesses can have the same affect. And that could also explain why with a case of the flu she may have felt the need to accept the assistance of care for the kids for a week, because with some illnesses it takes longer to recooperate even over something like flu. Wasn't it in the media that Mom went to court in a wheelchair?

Another thing I am seeing is implications that Mom may have set the child up. She sent all three of the kids with him. That isn't usually the action of someone who is pimping the kid. They usually only send the kid that is involved. They don't want extra witnesses. Also I don't know about other parents, but when mine were little I was always a little more confident that they would be ok if both of my kids were doing an activity. I don't know why I felt that, but I did. She sent all three kids.

I've seen comments about the Mom going to authorities to get permission to bring a dog (possibly a dangerous dog) into the city limits for her disabled daughter. Sometimes in mental health situations, even with sexually abused kids it will be recommended that they get a therapy dog. And some cities ban certain breeds of dogs as being possibly dangerous. I suspect that is what was happening here. She possibly had a therapy dog and it happened to be one of the banned breeds. And if that is what was happening, she went through a lot of effort to make sure her daughter got to keep that dog. Not the actions of an uncaring parent.

He had a criminal record. In some areas a criminal record isn't all that unusual. And from what I have seen his criminal record wasn't for harming kids. (I myself actually know several people with criminal records, with drug/drug related crimes so common it isn't as rare as it used to be) She had evidently known the guy for some time. Family and even the kids father said they thought he was ok. So even though he had a record, I would guess that he had been good at hiding any potential for harm.

Since the allegations on the 13 yo weren't criminally charged it is hard to tell if the family was even aware of them. But if they were I suspect that he probably had a cover story for it.

 

[jjenny]

Her two other children are six year old. They are not going to be much or any protection for an 8 year old.

 

[mysteriew]

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20111228/LOCAL07/312289939/1002/LOCAL

n 2005, Lemmon was charged with three counts of child molestation, according to Journal Gazette archives.

According to a probable cause affidavit, Lemmon had performed various sexual acts on a young girl from 1996 to 2003.

Ok this is new to me. Do you know if he was convicted? The article wasn't really clear on that. Was he registered? Was that in Fla. as it appears that he was living in Fla. during at least part of that time period.

 

[mikeysmommom]

A (sometimes not-so-subtle) theme permeating through this case's threads is anger at (somebody's) momma for not protecting (them). I submit that in doing so, we are diverting the blame from the perpetrator, which is in fact perpetrating grooming behavior. It's not "his" fault. It's "momma's" fault for not protecting "us." How about we get back to being pizzed at the person whos cut this child into bits? And then we can figure out what the heck went wrong with a human being to bring him to this point?

I will never stop being pizzzed at a mom who s out right neglect and IMO if your child is abused by 2 different men and finally she is cut into bits by a third some thing really wrong is going on within her household.As far the monster who cut this child into bits? I do not care to figure out what the heck went wrong with him to bring him to this point.He needs to be put to death as soon has possible,he is not human in my eyes.I do not care about his excuses.I am sick to death of so called parents:banghead: harming directly or indirectly CAUSE or ALLOW the death of their child:furious:maybe figuring them out might help us understand how in the hell to stop it from happening to other children.:furious:

 

[billisbobby]

Ok this is new to me. Do you know if he was convicted? The article wasn't really clear on that. Was he registered? Was that in Fla. as it appears that he was living in Fla. during at least part of that time period.

I don't know mysteriew but I'll see if I can find out.
imoo

 

[Melanie]

I will never stop being pizzzed at a mom who s out right neglect and IMO if your child is abused by 2 different men and finally she is cut into bits by a third some thing really wrong is going on within her household.As far the monster who cut this child into bits? I do not care to figure out what the heck went wrong with him to bring him to this point.He needs to be put to death as soon has possible,he is not human in my eyes.I do not care about his excuses.I am sick to death of so called parents:banghead: harming directly or indirectly CAUSE or ALLOW the death of their child:furious:maybe figuring them out might help us understand how in the hell to stop it from happening to other children.:furious:

You'll get no argument from me MM.

:banghead::furious:

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Here's a snippet from an article I referenced above. The mother WORRIED about moving her children there due to the RSO's.

Here you go--------

I knew that! Good grief, I guess that reminds me how late it is. Facts are starting to go around in circles. I was actually wondering if there was a way for the mother to know this particular "person" was an SO. I think.

I want to thank everyone who has shared their personal stories and given their opinions. IMO, this is the way we all learn and grow.

And for 2012, I wish this:[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNXocCzNq8Y&feature=fvst"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNXocCzNq8Y&feature=fvst[/ame]

 

[billisbobby]

Ok this is new to me. Do you know if he was convicted? The article wasn't really clear on that. Was he registered? Was that in Fla. as it appears that he was living in Fla. during at least part of that time period.

I deleted my post. I humbly apologize. That name and reference is for the grandfather...not the perp.

:blushing: Sorry mysterview.

 

[Melanie]

Thank you my_tee_mouse for sharing such a sweet video (my first view for 2012)! Dang it if that didn't make me cry!

Mel

 

[billisbobby]

I want to know how this judge feels now.

Court records obtained by the newspaper state that Plumadore was allegedly "stalking her, sending her explicit sexual text messages and photographs." Plumadore faced a petition for relief of domestic abuse in that case, but an Iowa judge later dismissed that petition.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-indiana-girlsdea,0,7111398.story

 

[Melanie]

From what I understand, the mother of the 13 year old didn't file a criminal complaint against MP - only a civil request for a protection order. I haven't seen any evidence that the mother followed up with the police/or made a report.

MOO

Mel

Plumadore was accused of sexually harassing Iowa girl
13-year-old's mom asked for protective order; request was dismissed

In Appanoose County, Plumadore didn't face criminal charges, and the woman's petition on behalf of her daughter was the only complaint on record, according to the clerk's office. A judge told the woman she should take her complaints to police or an attorney, according to court documents.

Source: http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111231/NEWS/111239935

 

[Melanie]

I want to know how this judge feels now.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-indiana-girlsdea,0,7111398.story

I would think without a criminal complaint the judge had his hands tied, as I've never heard of getting a protective order without a call to the police first. I believe the mother was told to go to the police or an attorney first -- which kinda makes sense and makes me wonder why she didn't do so (that I know of).

MOO

Mel

 

[billisbobby]

I agree Mel. What could be the reason the mother of the 13 year old didn't go to police?

 

[Lori_TX]

I am going to start out 2012 with my 100th post!!

I just want to say that following these cases here on WS, I find myself losing hope in humanity. As if there is nothing but despair for so many people, and this case in particular is an extremely difficult one for me (as I am sure it is for all of you). How can these things happen to such innocent souls? It's pure evil IMO. Anyway, since this case began, I have caught myself feeling very hopeless. But after being so emotional all day about the start of a new year, and for the first time feeling no hope for something better, I realized something. I realized that the good in the world and the hope for a better tomorrow was staring me in the face! All of you that are here on WS, all of you that care about the victims and give them a voice. You are what is good in the world! The compassion and kindness that emanates throughout these threads is amazing, and I just want to say that I am grateful to be a part of it!

Norwegian - you are so right - Ali was too good for this earth. I have to believe that she is looking down and knows there are so many people who have been touched by her, and who love her and will fight for justice for her.

So thank you everyone for being amazingly kind and compassionate and BRILLIANT when it comes to these cases that are at times unfathomable! Thank you for reminding me that there IS good and that hope still exists!

Happy New Year!

 

[mikeysmommom]

Did Michael Plumadore have FB friends in Weston?On Aliayah Lunsford thread it was posted he did.Does anyone know?

 

[Hippy Chick]

You'll get no argument from me MM.

:banghead::furious:

No arguments here either, in fact I couldn't agree more