In Fairness To Cindy

[Blackwatch]

Ya know...the smiling wasn't what bothered me...I think CA exhibits histrionic behavior and Casey may very well be used to that (unfortunately). I think there is a whole lot of dysfunction in that family. I'm in no way justifying any of Casey's behavior, it just may be difficult for her to recognize what's real when it comes to her mother.

ITA. I was ALMOST lulled into sympathy for CA during that tape, BUT I then remembered the 3rd 911 call when she told the operator she just found out her grandaughter is missing. When I heard that tape the first night it was played on NG my hinky meters went off whistle and toot. It's a wonder the neighbors didn't come running. I knew right then and there something was wrong with that whole scenerio BIG TIME. I didn't believe CA was sincere then and I sure as hades don't believe it now. In fact, I believe CA missed her true vocation and Hollywood is poorer for it. I have seen one, MAYBE two tears come out of CA's eyes. Oh, sure, I've seen plenty of sniffing and lowering of head and what others may interpret as crying, but I have never seen real tears, like she meant it. Maybe she cries in private, I can't say. I know I don't like to cry in public either.

My opinion only.

 

[Blackwatch]

I've read all the posts until now and have been struggling with exactly what it was that I was feeling for CA when I viewed the 8/14 tape. As some of you may know from my previous posts I've been pretty tough on CA but when I saw her sobbing and barely able to speak through her tears and KC smiled what I felt was horror, revulsion and pity. When her daughter was unable to show the appropriate human response of sorrow at her mother's anguish, I bet a lot of us felt the same way, IMO. This is foreign to us. Who smiles when their mother cries? I pity the A's.

In that case you would have loved me when my mother told me she was going to kill herself - I told her to go ahead. Of course it was nothing new, she'd been threatening the whole family with suicide for years and, finally, I'd had enough. I believe it may be the same in the A family - showmanship.

My opinion only

 

[Jolynna]

We will see what the days ahead bring for Cindy and the fam. We will also see if LE decides to send information to a GJ for further investigation or to bring charges against them. There is a good chance one of those two things will happen, imo.

They should have their answer on Immunity soon. I think if they do get it...people will be very surprised at what stories they will finally come forward with on the stand. If they don't...people will still be shocked at what the SA's office presents during trial, imo.

Maybe so.

But, I will never believe Cindy or George did not love Caylee and wouldn't have given their own lives to save her.

I am not sure whether or not they grasp how much of a monster their little girl grew up to be. Everyone wants there to be a reason a normal looking girl like Casey could do something so evil. So it has to be the way Casey was raised.

Maybe Casey just was THAT selfish and tired of her daughter. Just like Scott got tired of Laci. And Susan Smith got tired of her kids.

On a parental abuse scale...Cindy's spoiling her little brat and her super clean house would probably earn more smiles of approval from hardened Social Workers than condemnation.

Cindy, for sure, didn't purposefully do anything to deliberately harm Caylee. Casey did.

IMO

 

[LaLaw2000]

How about "In Fairness to Caylee"? Where was KC taking her for over two years? Why didn't her "loving" Grandmother have a clule who the babysitter was, what she looked like, how to reach her? So...Here's a scenario. KC is supposed to come home (from "work") at a certain hour and, low and behold, she doesn't show up! She's HOURS late (uh, maybe she gets into an accident or something like that)...Who does the "loving" Grandmother call?

I'm sorry. It's late. And these discussions are starting to pizz me off. How can these people get away with NOT HAVING A CLUE as to where, who their Grand-daugther was with day-in-day-out for TWO YEARS while they left her in the care of a daughter they deemed to be a lying, thieving sociopath?

Is there something wrong with me here?

:blowkiss:
I was just catching up reading tonight, Pink Panther, and read your post. I am right there with you!

 

[LisaNY]

There is a saying that goes something like this ...
Our backgrounds and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but we are responsible for who we become. Noone can control the type of person our children become, we can however hold them responsible for their actions. That does not mean they won't continue to lie, cheat and steal, but we do not have to treat it as acceptable behavior. CA cannot go back and change how she brought up kc, who knows ... maybe she was too busy handling work, her parents, her marriage, and it was just easier to let kc get away with things then deal with her temper tantrums (as in the video) BUT CA does not have to go on accepting her behavior. By the time kc was arrested the first time, ca was well aware of her lies. By the time kc was arrested the 2nd time, ca was sucked into the vacuum of kc's lies ... all this is imho

 

[Jolynna]

In that case you would have loved me when my mother told me she was going to kill herself - I told her to go ahead. Of course it was nothing new, she'd been threatening the whole family with suicide for years and, finally, I'd had enough. I believe it may be the same in the A family - showmanship.

My opinion only

I have never seen such an empty cold shell as Casey.

I don't think she feels anything for anyone except herself.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Maybe so.

But, I will never believe Cindy or George did not love Caylee and wouldn't have given their own lives to save her.

I am not sure whether or not they grasp how much of a monster their little girl grew up to be. Everyone wants there to be a reason a normal looking girl like Casey could do something so evil. So it has to be the way Casey was raised.

Maybe Casey just was THAT selfish and tired of her daughter. Just like Scott got tired of Laci. And Susan Smith got tired of her kids.

On a parental abuse scale...Cindy's spoiling her little brat and her super clean house would probably earn more smiles of approval from hardened Social Workers than condemnation.

Cindy, for sure, didn't purposefully do anything to deliberately harm Caylee. Casey did.

IMO

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[Zoe Bogart]

LOL wasn't everyone mad at Cindy awhile ago because Cindy said she lied about calling the police on the pretext of the car and money and that she was just trying to scare KC into producing Caylee?
I'll look for a link but I might be too lazy. This case is exhausting.

That's exactly what she said. I think it was a combination of everything coming to the fore. She was frustrated with Casey's stealing, the stinky car, how much money KC was bilking out of the family, plus she hadn't seen Caylee in a month. Cindy was being driven by her instincts (dead body in the car) and her need to put a stop to Casey's lies and actions, and the need to find the baby.

Too bad after KC's arrest, she forgot her main focus should have been finding Caylee.

 

[mikeysmommom]

LOL wasn't everyone mad at Cindy awhile ago because Cindy said she lied about calling the police on the pretext of the car and money and that she was just trying to scare KC into producing Caylee?
I'll look for a link but I might be too lazy. This case is exhausting.

Yes you are right but IMHO No matter what Cindy does she is never going to make some people happy.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have never seen nor heard that Cindy said that, JBean. However, it wouldn't surprise me if she said it long after she was called on it so many times here. Rather..."after the fact" it sounded good to say, imo.

 

[LaLaw2000]

In the days ahead and especially at trial, we will find out more about Cindy's involvement.

I believe with everything in me that Cindy has known what happened to little Caylee from the beginning. I am not saying Cindy did not love Caylee, and I am not saying that she killed Caylee. I am saying that I really believe that Cindy knew what happened to Caylee and did everything she could to hinder the investigation and attempt to put the blame on Jesse and/or Amy. I believe there was a coverup by the entire family and a 'script', only the script wasn't very well written and backfired on them. JMO

 

[Jolynna]

Originally Posted by Pink Panther
How about "In Fairness to Caylee"? Where was KC taking her for over two years? Why didn't her "loving" Grandmother have a clule who the babysitter was, what she looked like, how to reach her? So...Here's a scenario. KC is supposed to come home (from "work") at a certain hour and, low and behold, she doesn't show up! She's HOURS late (uh, maybe she gets into an accident or something like that)...Who does the "loving" Grandmother call?

I'm sorry. It's late. And these discussions are starting to pizz me off. How can these people get away with NOT HAVING A CLUE as to where, who their Grand-daugther was with day-in-day-out for TWO YEARS while they left her in the care of a daughter they deemed to be a lying, thieving sociopath?

Is there something wrong with me here?

Maybe you have to have lived with a sociopath to understand.

Lori Hacking thought Mark was finishing medical school until well... Christian Longo's wife and kids were fooled by and adored him despite lie after lie after lie for years. Laci didn't know about Amber or that Scott wanted her dead. Ted Bundy had a girlfriend that didn't realize for years that Ted had a secret hobby...neither did Ted's friend Ann Rule.

Sociopaths easily compartmentalize different parts of their lives. They are masters at making anyone who DARES to ask questions as over-imaginative/crazy, naggy, nit-picky, silly, insane or foolish for questioning THEIR integrity. It doesn't matter if they've lied 500 times already in the last two days, the questioner ends up feeling guilty for being suspicious.

Yes. They are that manipulative and that good. It is easy to lie, cheat, steal or worse when there is nothing inside that feels guilt, remorse or empathy. Normal people are sitting ducks who don't know which way is up by the time the sociopath is finished with them.

IMO

 

[Blackwatch]

Yes you are right but IMHO No matter what Cindy does she is never going to make some people happy.

So far I haven't seen her do anything to make anyone happy except KC, but that's just my opinion. I'm sure others have seen her cooperate fully with LE, behave like a grieving grandmother, beg for her grandchild's safe return, you know the usual stuff a grandmother does when someone allegedly kidnaps your grandchild. Guess I'm just watching the wrong TV channels or something.

My opinion only

 

[Blackwatch]

Maybe you have to have lived with a sociopath to understand.

Lori Hacking thought Mark was finishing medical school until well... Christian Longo's wife and kids were fooled by and adored him despite lie after lie after lie for years. Laci didn't know about Amber or that Scott wanted her dead. Ted Bundy had a girlfriend that didn't realize for years that Ted had a secret hobby...neither did Ted's friend Ann Rule.

Sociopaths easily compartmentalize different parts of their lives. They are masters at making anyone who DARES to ask questions as over-imaginative/crazy, naggy, nit-picky, silly, insane or foolish for questioning THEIR integrity. It doesn't matter if they've lied 500 times already in the last two days, the questioner ends up feeling guilty for being suspicious.

Yes. They are that manipulative and that good.

IMO

Yes, they are that good, BUT, in my opion not 2 years worth of good - not KC anyway - no job, no nanny. For loving grandparents they must have at least wondered?????

 

[Jolynna]

Yes, they are that good, BUT, in my opion not 2 years worth of good - not KC anyway - no job, no nanny. For loving grandparents they must have at least wondered?????

Maybe when they dared ask questions Casey threw hissy fits. Really, really bad hissy fits. I'm sure she stomped off more than once with Caylee and at least drove around to scare her parents. She and Caylee may have even spent a night with a friend or in Casey's car to REALLY scare them.

There are a ton of men who would have provided pretty Casey and her little girl with a temporary roof and support if "princess Casey" was given too hard of a time in the Anthony house. Probably just the thought of some of SOME of the possible potential "step daddies" gave George and Cindy nightmares.

If Casey had decided to go off in that direction, George and Cindy couldn't have done a darn thing until AFTER evidence of abuse.

Where Caylee was concerned without concrete evidence of physical abuse or neglect, Casey held the cards. And if crossed she had the power to take Caylee away forever. (In George and Cindy's mind that would mean moving away. I don't think they imagined Casey would ever do what she did.)

 

[JaneInOz]

I respectfully disagree with your comment. My children were taught they were in more trouble if they lied than if they would tell the truth, even if they were guilty. Disapline was carried through, I , as mother ,did not and do not believe in lies which they all know to this day. I have one who lies just about each time she opens her mouth, so it proves to me it didnt reflect from family dynamics or who raised her. I believe it is a learned behavior, she is now in her fifty's and still a liar, sad to say. Adults are responsible for their actions and some make some bad choices.

She's in her fifty's now Gosh then if that makes you around the 70 mark give or take WOW to being on a message board LOL

 

[Psmith]

Mrs Peel shrugs off this remark, but there are a lot who won't, hunny pie.

 

[JaneInOz]

Mrs Peel shrugs off this remark, but there are a lot who won't, hunny pie.

was that to me ? lol I was being complimentary to Easy Gruvvin

 

[EasyGruuvin]

She's in her fifty's now Gosh then if that makes you around the 70 mark give or take WOW to being on a message board LOL

Right, I am a young 70 and there are many of us 'old gals' on message boards . Happy to be able to be here and still have the faculties. LOL:blowkiss:

 

[mydailyopinions]

Right, I am a young 70 and there are many of us 'old gals' on message boards . Happy to be able to be here and still have the faculties. LOL:blowkiss:

We are so happy to have you here too! :blowkiss: