IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #6

[Andreee]

I cannot root them on as long as they are bashing the cruise line company instead of admitting to the reckless behaviour of the grandfather.

If they had asked for privacy while they grieved, instead of going on a national tour to blame the cruise company and if Grandfather had taken responsibility and not tried to blame everyone else but himself, I could be more sympathetic towards them.

I sympathize with the family's loss just as much and especially the parents. They have lost a child in a horrific way and although they may not be handling it the best way, this is the way they are dealing with the loss and their grief. I don't agree with it, but they are up against a big business of a cruise line and I'm sure the cruise line will be able to handle it just fine in court. It won't really ease the parents suffering in the long run, and I do hope they realize that the cruise line isn't at fault, and back away from the added stress of pursuing this.

 

[LietKynes]

I’ve wondered if he intentionally dropped Chloe only because I can’t get my head around his absolute fool stupidity.
If it was agreed it was a terrible and tragic accident then the family should’ve accepted that and moved on but I’ve been on those ships and a child could not get up there on its own.
The seats are all too low and the tables do not move.
I certainly wish the family well but I ultimately want and need justice for Chloe.
Gramps has been charged for a reason and we must trust the wheels of justice

bbm
Ita.
The PR courts are considering all options.
RCCL also would have security camera footage that we haven't seen.
So there will be evidence if intentional.
The criminal justice system will be obliged to check all medical and insurance histories as well.

 

[LietKynes]

The real victim here was Chloe. This lawsuit is distasteful.

Agreed.
The rabid pursuit of money has to make the PR justice system looking askance.

 

[FactFinder3000]

See the two documents below. This is public record.

Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase

Expired Document Link - MyCase

The links are expired after 2 hours apparently.

But I did my own search. No sign of any DUI. So claims of DUIs are unsubstantiated rumors and probably false.

 

[Lawsmygame2]

The links are expired after 2 hours apparently.

But I did my own search. No sign of any DUI. So claims of DUIs are unsubstantiated rumors and probably false.

It was a link to a case filed in court of behalf of the estate of Chloe to appoint the parents as personal representatives to administer Chloe’s estate. An order granted by the court was titled, “Order appointing personal representatives for the sole purpose of filing a wrongful death suit.”

This case was opened on July 16, 2019.

 

[MsBetsy]

BBM OMG, are you me??!! I was just saying that very thing to my DH. An accident would be forgivable, what really happened is not. I have thought from the beginning that this was deliberate, and as the story has unfolded, it seems to be getting more and more sinister. I truly believe SA did this on purpose, and the purpose was money. I also have some other theories that I cannot go in to in depth on this public thread due to TOS. But I think they will be coming out in public in the court case very soon.

Why would he deliberately throw his grandchild out the window in a public place in full view of dozens of witnesses and with surveillance cameras everywhere? Why take such a risk if he truly wanted to get away with it?

He's not the brightest bulb but even an idiot could come up with a better plan than that.

LE stated at the very beginning that they would be considering various charges before they began the investigation. After a thorough investigation they charged him with negligent homicide, a misdemeanor. We don't know what evidence they have but they must know a lot more than we do.

I don't know of any evidence that that will be coming out in the court case very soon, but if there is, then why would they offer him a plea deal with no sentence if they believed it was intentional?
It doesn't make sense.

I would think the moment investigators find solid evidence that he committed murder, they would arrest him and charge him with it instead of waiting to bring it up in court.
And if they do find evidence that points to murder, wouldn't they have to present that to the defense ahead of time?

They already have all the evidence. What else could there be? They can't just assume he murdered her because he wanted the money. They have direct evidence and that is what led them to charge him with negligent homicide.

Imo

 

[neesaki]

One thing I find troubling about this case, is how the family left without talking to the prosecutors.

When a child dies under questionable circumstances here in the states, is the family allowed to ignore and flee the area in order to avoid LE?

And when that kind of thing happens don’t most people, including us Websleuths go into the “uh, huh, something’s hinky ” mode of thinking?

I was just reading this PR news article that came out right after the tragedy, and it struck me... they didn’t just leave, they fled. I understand the horror of the situation, but aren’t other people in similar required to talk to LE? If anyone else in the states did this involving the violent death of a child, they highly likely would have had LE show up at their front door within a day. Am I wrong?

Here’s the link to article which can be translated.
Vídeo será determinante en investigación sobre muerte de niña en crucero
Excerpt (translated) from article:

Police sources insist that the maternal grandfather had the girl in his arms and that he appears sticking out of it because of the sale, from which he fell. Prosecutor Ivette Nieves, given the refusal of Chloe's relatives to testify, could use the tapes in the eventual filing of negligence charges under the child protection law against Anello, a crime that has a maximum sentence of three years in jail.

The tapes are expected to be examined tomorrow by the prosecutor and technical personnel of the Police and the Forensic Sciences Bureau.

Anello, 52, residing in Indiana, arrived mid-morning at the Metropolitan Center for Investigations and Complaints (CMID), in Hato Rey, to be interviewed by Prosecutor Nieves. He arrived accompanied by his wife and the girl's paternal grandparents.

A while later, lawyer José Guillermo Pérez Ortiz appeared to represent him and the interview was postponed for the afternoon. The lawyer asked for time to interview his client.

Yesterday, Alan Wiegand and his wife Kimberly Schultz, Chloe's parents, arrived at the Prosecutor's Office accompanied by personnel from Royal Caribbean, the owner of the cruise ship where the tragic death occurred. They did not testify before the prosecutor and left the Prosecutor's Office.

Prosecutor Nieves issued a subpoena for the management of the hotel where they were staying to give her the room number to be able to quote them again. They did not answer the calls and the summons was left under the door.

 

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[MsBetsy]

bbm
Ita.
The PR courts are considering all options.
RCCL also would have security camera footage that we haven't seen.
So there will be evidence if intentional.
The criminal justice system will be obliged to check all medical and insurance histories as well.

Do you have a link that states they are still considering all options?
I thought that was a statement made in the beginning of the investigation.
It just doesn't seem like they would offer a deal if they were not confident of the charges.
Thanks in advance.