GUILTY IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #9 *NO JAIL*

[mickey2942]

I don't have MSM link to confirm if life insurance true specifically for Chloe but I do know that the most common way for a toddler to end up with a $600K life insurance is by an employee benefit from one of the parents.

This was true in the case of Chris Watts children each having large life insurance payouts. It happens when the employee opts to designate a percentage of the employee's own corporate life benefit towards the lives of their spouse and dependents. In other words, it was not a policy intentionally purchased/underwritten for a toddler.

That makes sense. Chloe's father is a police officer, and belongs to a LEO union. Policy is written for comprehensive coverage in case of death. The intent is to cover the family in case the policy holder dies, but also includes everyone in the family.

 

[borndem]

Interesting...

 

[Montrealaise]

Does anyone know whether the Wiegands have filed an appeal? Somebody wrote that while MW almost certainly took on the initial case on a contingency basis, that would not be the case for an appeal. It will be interesting to see whether the Wiegands are prepared to dig into their own pockets to continue their case against the cruise line.

 

[Seattle1]

Does anyone know whether the Wiegands have filed an appeal? Somebody wrote that while MW almost certainly took on the initial case on a contingency basis, that would not be the case for an appeal. It will be interesting to see whether the Wiegands are prepared to dig into their own pockets to continue their case against the cruise line.

From the terminated case docket, the Notice of Appeal was filed July 27, and new case number assigned:

Date Filed # Docket Text

07/27/2021 Transmission of Notice of Appeal, Order under appeal and Docket Sheet to US Court of Appeals re 237 Notice of Appeal, Notice has been electronically mailed. (apz) (Entered: 07/27/2021)

07/28/2021
#238 Acknowledgment of Receipt of NOA from USCA re 237 Notice of Appeal, filed by Alan Wiegand, Kimberly Schultz-Wiegand. Date received by USCA: 7/27/21. USCA Case Number: 21-12506-G. (hh) (Entered: 07/28/2021)

 

[Montrealaise]

From the terminated case docket, the Notice of Appeal was filed July 27, and new case number assigned:

Date Filed # Docket Text

07/27/2021 Transmission of Notice of Appeal, Order under appeal and Docket Sheet to US Court of Appeals re 237 Notice of Appeal, Notice has been electronically mailed. (apz) (Entered: 07/27/2021)

07/28/2021
#238 Acknowledgment of Receipt of NOA from USCA re 237 Notice of Appeal, filed by Alan Wiegand, Kimberly Schultz-Wiegand. Date received by USCA: 7/27/21. USCA Case Number: 21-12506-G. (hh) (Entered: 07/28/2021)

Thank you so much for posting this.

Wow. They're not giving up, are they?

 

[drama_farmer]

Does this mean that the Wiegand's filed the appeal themselves, without an attorney representing them?

From the terminated case docket, the Notice of Appeal was filed July 27, and new case number assigned:

Date Filed # Docket Text

07/27/2021 Transmission of Notice of Appeal, Order under appeal and Docket Sheet to US Court of Appeals re 237 Notice of Appeal, Notice has been electronically mailed. (apz) (Entered: 07/27/2021)

07/28/2021
#238 Acknowledgment of Receipt of NOA from USCA re 237 Notice of Appeal, filed by Alan Wiegand, Kimberly Schultz-Wiegand. Date received by USCA: 7/27/21. USCA Case Number: 21-12506-G. (hh) (Entered: 07/28/2021)

 

[oviedo]

Judge dismisses Granger family's lawsuit against Royal Caribbean
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U.S. Southern District of Florida Judge Donald Graham found the toddler's grandfather, Salvatore Annello, to be the "sole proximate cause" of Chloe's death when he held the 18-month-old over the railing in front of an open window and subsequently dropped her.
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The family is surprised and deeply saddened by the court's ruling," the statement read. "This is a matter that should be decided by a jury, and we are confident and hopeful the appellate court will agree.
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In his ruling, Graham found Royal Caribbean could not be held liable for Chloe's death because the actions of Anello were "not foreseeable" and that the danger of holding Chloe over the railing and extending her out toward the open window was "open and obvious."

"Despite conducting extensive discovery, the Plaintiffs have failed to present evidence indicating that the Defendant knew or should have known that there was a risk of an adult lifting a child over the guardrail and through an open window," Graham wrote in his ruling.

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This judge made it abundantly clear SA was the sole reason for her death
they wanted a jury trial for the sympathy factor IMO

 

[oviedo]

Does this mean that the Wiegand's filed the appeal themselves, without an attorney representing them?

Michael Winkleman, an attorney representing the family in the suit, released a written statement saying the family will appeal Graham's decision.

"The family is surprised and deeply saddened by the court's ruling
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Judge dismisses Granger family's lawsuit against Royal Caribbean
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it would appear Winkleman is handling the appeal …
JMO

 

[Marysmith]

Michael Winkleman, an attorney representing the family in the suit, released a written statement saying the family will appeal Graham's decision.

"The family is surprised and deeply saddened by the court's ruling
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Judge dismisses Granger family's lawsuit against Royal Caribbean
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it would appear Winkleman is handling the appeal …
JMO

I guess he’s still getting paid - JMO.
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[LietKynes]

Thank you so much for posting this.

Wow. They're not giving up, are they?

No, they're not.
Facts are facts, so to speak.
We'll have to wait and see how this plays out before saying more.

 

[LietKynes]

I don't have MSM link to confirm if life insurance true specifically for Chloe but I do know that the most common way for a toddler to end up with a $600K life insurance is by an employee benefit from one of the parents.

This was true in the case of Chris Watts children each having large life insurance payouts. It happens when the employee opts to designate a percentage of the employee's own corporate life benefit towards the lives of their spouse and dependents. In other words, it was not a policy intentionally purchased/underwritten for a toddler.

That is a large policy.
Maybe the mother and Chloe's brother were also insured, though ?

 

[Seattle1]

That is a large policy.
Maybe the mother and Chloe's brother were also insured, though ?

Most likely. I think Chris allocated his life insurance benefit and/or policy at @25% to each including himself (i.e., employee, spouse, child, child). To be clear, not as beneficiaries but as the insured. MOO

 

[borndem]

Surrender, Dorothy.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Surrender, Dorothy.

NEVER!!!!

 

[mickey2942]

I wish that the prosecution had released all documents in regards to this investigation. I am inclined to believe that there was more evidence involved, than just witnesses and the videos.

It would be interesting to see what lead to the charges for Sal Anello in Puerto Rico, and what caused the judge in the lawsuit against Royal Caribbean to drop the case. Is there evidence that we have not been privy to? Not that what we have seen has been more than enough.

 

[neesaki]

I wish that the prosecution had released all documents in regards to this investigation. I am inclined to believe that there was more evidence involved, than just witnesses and the videos.

It would be interesting to see what lead to the charges for Sal Anello in Puerto Rico, and what caused the judge in the lawsuit against Royal Caribbean to drop the case. Is there evidence that we have not been privy to? Not that what we have seen has been more than enough.

I think what lead to charges, was that they know SA was drinking, and they saw the video, which was quite clear.
The judge watched the video as well, of SA putting his head out the window, then deliberately lifting baby Chloe up, and over the railing and to the window sill. After which within a few seconds he appears to be shaking her or doing something weird, then she’s gone. Sorry SOB.
I do have a hard time believing the father didn’t have the guts to watch the video though, being a police officer and all. I would bet he did see it. Jmo

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I guess he’s still getting paid - JMO.
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Contingency fee, most likely. At this point, he’s keeping his name out there, front and center. Miami is back into cruising, so he needs the exposure. PR firms are working overtime to get their clients noticed.

 

[Kakidoll]

Look who's back in the news with a new case:
Disney Cruise Line sued over alleged sexual assault of 3-year-old girl

 

[katydid23]

Look who's back in the news with a new case:
Disney Cruise Line sued over alleged sexual assault of 3-year-old girl

It looks like it's possibly another unfounded cAse.

 

[Montrealaise]

Does anyone know whether the Wiegands ever filed an appeal? My guess is that MW took on the case on a contingency basis, but only for the first instance, so any appellate proceedings would have to come out of the Wiegands' 0wn pocket, so no appeal.