GUILTY In - Halee Rathgeber, 20, Fatally Shot, Warrick County, 24 April 2017 *arrest*

[Alethea]

Hagan's arrest warrant is ordered sealed until May 15. Prosecutor Perry said several search warrant returns were not filed yet. - ECP

 

[jessarox]

Vanderburgh County seems to be full of his peers!

True. Mostly just wondering because I don't think their security is going to be much different than Warrick County's jail. I would have thought maybe Gibson Co jail in Princeton but maybe they're overcrowded. That does seem to be an issue around here.

 

[Mercedes]

Vanderburgh County seems to be full of his peers!

True!

 

[Alethea]

True. Mostly just wondering because I don't think their security is going to be much different than Warrick County's jail. I would have thought maybe Gibson Co jail in Princeton but maybe they're overcrowded. That does seem to be an issue around here.

This is COMPLETE speculation on my part, and I know nothing about Indiana jails, but maybe Warrick County is expecting to arrest and book additional people and they do not want Hagan in the same facility when they're brought in?

 

[ab01]

This is COMPLETE speculation on my part, and I know nothing about Indiana jails, but maybe Warrick County is expecting to arrest and book additional people and they do not want Hagan in the same facility when they're brought in?

Bingo IMO

I think obviously IH is involved or he wouldn't be charged, but I'm kind of wondering if he didn't actually pull the trigger....my gut tells me there is a twist yet to come..MOO


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[jessarox]

This is COMPLETE speculation on my part, and I know nothing about Indiana jails, but maybe Warrick County is expecting to arrest and book additional people and they do not want Hagan in the same facility when they're brought in?

If that's the case then I totally get it, these are all small jails with the exception of Vanderburgh County. Vanderburgh can hold ~600 inmates, the smaller counties can probably only hold 100. That has to make it tough to separate people.

 

[Alethea]

I think it's odd that the prosecutor said they are sealing the affidavit because it contains information of evidentiary value. If the sole perpetrator is in custody, why would they care? The defense is entitled to every single piece of evidence uncovered by the prosecution. It does make sense if they think other people are involved, either in the murder or after-the-fact.

Robbery as a motive doesn't make sense to me. Why not rob a random person? IMO this doesn't add up.

 

[Mom2catieandtwins]

Could Halee have known something to anger IH? Why else would he steel her phone? Maybe to delete or alter information. Does anyone else believe all of the recent tradigity surrounding Halee led to motive or the robbery? Just speculating.

 

[ab01]

I think it's odd that the prosecutor said they are sealing the affidavit because it contains information of evidentiary value. If the sole perpetrator is in custody, why would they care? The defense is entitled to every single piece of evidence uncovered by the prosecution. It does make sense if they think other people are involved, either in the murder or after-the-fact.

Robbery as a motive doesn't make sense to me. Why not rob a random person? IMO this doesn't add up.

Maybe the robbery was done to keep her stranded at the soccer park?


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[Mercedes]

14news.com, about 4:07 pm

Murder charges are still listed. I am sorry I can't link to article.
Headline is about him being held in another county.

 

[jessarox]

14news.com, about 4:07 pm

Murder charges are still listed. I am sorry I can't link to article.
Headline is about him being held in another county.

This one? http://www.14news.com/story/3532167...dent-being-held-in-pike-co-for-safety-reasons

Courier & Press has a good write-up with a lot more details:

http://www.courierpress.com/story/n...lling-makes-first-court-appearance/101193708/

 

[hey-Debbie]

Maybe drug buy gone wrong? That could also explain why he's being held in another jail for safety. Snitches get stiches. I know that these kids are known for being nice kids, but nice kids do drugs too. And if you look at the company she keeps it's pretty obvious some of them already have criminal records. I'm sure since she worked at TRH she usually had cash on her and since he worked there before he had to know that too.

 

[Mom2catieandtwins]

I agree. Can you point me to the articles <modsnip>?

 

[Mountaingazer]

Could Halee have known something to anger IH? Why else would he steel her phone? Maybe to delete or alter information. Does anyone else believe all of the recent tradigity surrounding Halee led to motive or the robbery? Just speculating.

This is what I think too, explains the robbery and attempt to destroy/get rid of charges.

I think there was something very damning on that phone

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[Elley Mae]

I haven't seen in the post, has it been said where her car was located?

 

[jessarox]

Maybe drug buy gone wrong? That could also explain why he's being held in another jail for safety. Snitches get stiches. I know that these kids are known for being nice kids, but nice kids do drugs too. And if you look at the company she keeps it's pretty obvious some of them already have criminal records. I'm sure since she worked at TRH she usually had cash on her and since he worked there before he had to know that too.

My husband brought this up when I first laid out the details to him and I dismissed it because Halee was a nursing student and I read somewhere that she did some work at a local hospital. I assumed that means she would be drug tested since she had patient access. Now obviously that doesn't catch *all* drugs but it stands to reason that she wouldn't risk it since it appears that she really wanted to be a nurse.

Now, I do wonder if maybe she had prescription drugs that people were trying to get from her, maybe something like Adderall or Vyvanse? Although that doesn't make a whole lot of sense because from what I understand, the street value on those aren't all that high and they're controlled substances so you can only get a prescription for a month at a time.

 

[Elley Mae]

This is what I think too, explains the robbery and attempt to destroy/get rid of charges.

I think there was something very damning on that phone

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Agree, or he didn't want it (phone) to tell where it had been, or the communications between them that evening. Jmo

And probably wanted it to look like a carjacking. Jmo

 

[Whiskers16]

Without links, it's really hard to follow what y'all are commenting on.

There has been a lot of discussion on new info but I want to respond to this too. I have been primarily working off of Halees twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/haleerathgeber?lang=en

From other threads I've inferred that it's acceptable to vaguely point people toward interesting comments branching off of an authorized source. So I've been trying to do that when I see something of interest which is still to be taken as rumor/opinion.

 

[Whiskers16]

I think it's odd that the prosecutor said they are sealing the affidavit because it contains information of evidentiary value. If the sole perpetrator is in custody, why would they care? The defense is entitled to every single piece of evidence uncovered by the prosecution. It does make sense if they think other people are involved, either in the murder or after-the-fact.

Robbery as a motive doesn't make sense to me. Why not rob a random person? IMO this doesn't add up.

I've seen enough true crime shows to know it's not that unusual for a planned robbery to turn into a murder. I don't know if that's the case here though. JMO.

 

[ab01]

Maybe drug buy gone wrong? That could also explain why he's being held in another jail for safety. Snitches get stiches. I know that these kids are known for being nice kids, but nice kids do drugs too. And if you look at the company she keeps it's pretty obvious some of them already have criminal records. I'm sure since she worked at TRH she usually had cash on her and since he worked there before he had to know that too.

I think some of her friends may have been involved in drugs, but not as far as halee being involved with them. It seems that some of her friends dated some bad guys......but I haven't seen anything to infer that she was involved with drugs and or indulged in that lifestyle.....just my two cents


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