IN - James Chadwell II, 42, arrested after girl 9, found in his home, Lafayette, 19 Apr 2021 #2

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  • #681
There is something important stated at 1:37 IMO:
"People want to make the assumption that the voice saying "down the hill" it belongs to the person captured in the image from the cell phone, that's not necessarily the case."
that's interesting dave bursten saying that because didn't doug carter say it was the person on the video is the voice and it is one person only?
if it wasn't him it was Tobe Leasenby or kim reilly.
But one of them said it.o_O

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  • #682
I was just thinking maybe I should have said "papers" rather than "drawings". It looks to be papers with drawings on them. JMO
You're right and I should also have said "papers" as I can't tell if they are drawings or photographs or printed images.
 
  • #683
that's interesting dave bursten saying that because didn't doug carter say it was the person on the video is the voice and it is one person only?
if it wasn't him it was Tobe Leasenby or kim reilly.
But one of them said it.o_O

moo

The clip is from 2017, years before they clarified the voice belonging to the man on the bridge.
 
  • #684

Our @bradfordsleuth posted this on July 28, 2019:


"Another oldie interview to bump up. It is from approx. 3 weeks after the murders.

"This is between Tobe Leazenby and Michael Stroup.

"Lots of discussion about DNA and some about the video. Also some discussion of the possibility of more than one person being involved.

DELPHI DOUBLE MURDER UPDATE INTERVIEW WITH SHERIFF TOBE LEAZENBY - 9tube.tv

5 mins 20 seconds
"I feel confident we're going to end up in a court of law one of these days with this situation......"

The 'twist' is mentioned around 9 minutes in.
...."
it's got a whole new, it's got a whole twist to it that, even I, as a 30 year veteran, have never seen."

I keep hoping to see 'Arrest' on each thread. I believe it will soon happen.

JMO

bradfordsleuth, Jul 28, 2019 "
 
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  • #685
My brain is not prepared for this discussion lol.

Yeah I just can’t with this right now. :D

Going back into robot mode. But let’s just say I think I have reference on this which...

Yeah, I just can’t even right now.
o_O
 
  • #686
WOWZER !!
I have a hard time with some visual and listening to voices to see if they match and honestly, the videos from his FB, to me, could be or couldn't be him
However, him talking in this video ... gave me chills..... his voice here sounded just like BG's
I have watched the walk and hard to say as press only shows his top half walking, it is similar, but I need to see full body walk.
But that VOICE . Oh my
 
  • #687
that's interesting dave bursten saying that because didn't doug carter say it was the person on the video is the voice and it is one person only?
if it wasn't him it was Tobe Leasenby or kim reilly.
But one of them said it.o_O

moo

This is Superintendent Carter at the April 22 presser, "We’re releasing additional portions of the audio recording from that day. Please keep in mind the person talking is one person and is the person on the bridge with the girls. This is NOT two different people speaking- please listen to it very, very carefully."

DELPHI PRESS CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT (2019) - CrimeLights
 
  • #688
Our @bradfordsleuth posted this on July 28, 2019:

"Another oldie interview to bump up. It is from approx. 3 weeks after the murders.

"This is between Tobe Leazenby and Michael Stroup.

"Lots of discussion about DNA and some about the video. Also some discussion of the possibility of more than one person being involved.

DELPHI DOUBLE MURDER UPDATE INTERVIEW WITH SHERIFF TOBE LEAZENBY - 9tube.tv

5 mins 20 seconds
"I feel confident we're going to end up in a court of law one of these days with this situation......"

The 'twist' is mentioned around 9 minutes in.
...."
it's got a whole new, it's got a whole twist to it that, even I, as a 30 year veteran, have never seen."

I keep hoping to see 'Arrest' on each thread. I believe it will soon happen.

JMO

bradfordsleuth, Jul 28, 2019 "

1. Sheriff Leavenby speaks to the question concerning whether or not there was more than one perpetrator. Does state it is a possibility.

2. The Sheriff does mention the "twist", as @bradfordsleuth pointed out .
 
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  • #689
There is something important stated at 1:37 IMO:
"People want to make the assumption that the voice saying "down the hill" it belongs to the person captured in the image from the cell phone, that's not necessarily the case."

Dave Bursten retired in 2019.
https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-new...th-the-department-41-years-in-law-enforcemnet

That clip in the youtube video appears to be from mere days into the investigation, well prior to DC confirming the audio is indeed from the suspect on the bridge (see DC’s quote just above).

Feb 23, 2017 -
Police: Homicide victim recorded, photographed suspect on cellphone
“We’re not saying the voice you heard is the same person in the picture,” he said. “As much as we’d like to tell you everything, more importantly we want to solve the crime.”
 
  • #690
I was just thinking maybe I should have said "papers" rather than "drawings". It looks to be papers with drawings on them. JMO
Wow. My daughter just came by and I pulled up the photo and I pointed to an area. I asked her what she saw. She has no idea what she’s looking at or why I’ve asked her such a thing. She looked at me and said “a face - a girl with brown hair”. I am blown away. Wow again. Look up towards the center of his hat kinda veering ever so slightly right. There’s an almost bluish-grayish area. I wanna say it almost lightly glows. There’s no way my daughter can walk in from nowhere and look at a photo and say that unless it’s there.
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  • #691
re: the tattoos. I found some posts where he shows a rather nice ink design. Apparently he's a tattoo artist. I don't know whether there's any significance, but I thought it was interesting.

I think this is the first one. There's some discussion in the comments from people who have had tats done by him. Also comments about artistic talent in his family

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Progress report.
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In the comments, EAW asks if he tattoos and he says yeah.

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A few days later he posts the finished design with a rather creepy comment about working on flesh:

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Though I gotta say, that's a really nice design.
 
  • #692
We talked about this at the time. It seems to have meant that they don't have hard evidence that would rule out the possibility of a second person, not that they necessarily thought there was a second person. Cops being extremely specific about what they can prove versus what's assumed.

That's very interesting. I noticed quite a few comments about the Delphi murders being a crime of opportunity. For some reason, I've always thought this was a luring. I realize that there is no digital evidence to support a luring, but I'm not 100% convinced that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

One reason I lean towards luring is that the girls seemed determined to go to the park that day, and they did not want their parents to know what they were doing. They said that they wanted to take photos, but that doesn't mean that was the only reason they were there.

If it was a luring, then a vehicle parked in the trees, up the hill from the murder location, fits. I'll look for some maps that I put together early on, but I recall trails from the location where a vehicle might have been parked to the entrance to the bridge (from the regular parking site).

If two people were involved, and one approached crossing the bridge while another was under the bridge, that would explain a voice that may not be attributed to the man on the bridge.
 
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I think the drawings referred to (2 of them?) are placed on the ground on the far side of the deciduous shrub that appears behind JBC.

The bluish spots? That look like maybe a couple of flattened beer cans?
 
  • #695
The bluish spots? That look like maybe a couple of flattened beer cans?
Ok... I could see that as a possibility. Thank you
 
  • #696
If you right click the image and download it, you get a better resolution picture. If you zoom in, you can easily see a piece of paper with a face on it. Eyes, hair, nose, mouth.
 
  • #697
If two people were involved, and one approached crossing the bridge while another was under the bridge, that would explain a voice that may not be attributed to the man on the bridge.

Snipped by me.

Actually, Carter said that the voice belonged to the man on the bridge with the girls. What he didn't say is that the man in the photograph is the killer. Carter said the person in the second sketch is the killer, but we don't know the relationship between that person and sketch #1 and/or the man on the bridge.
 
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Wow. My daughter just came by and I pulled up the photo and I pointed to an area. I asked her what she saw. She has no idea what she’s looking at or why I’ve asked her such a thing. She looked at me and said “a face - a girl with brown hair”. I am blown away. Wow again. Look up towards the center of his hat kinda veering ever so slightly right. There’s an almost bluish-grayish area. I wanna say it almost lightly glows. There’s no way my daughter can walk in from nowhere and look at a photo and say that unless it’s there.
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IG can you be more specific?
Ive looked at it and looked at it.
I see what looks like rotting blue/grey material to the centre right above his cap. But that is all?
Is that the spot you mean?

Do we know what the point of this pic is to him??
Like what captioned went with it?
It really is a strange selfie.

moo
 
  • #699
If you right click the image and download it, you get a better resolution picture. If you zoom in, you can easily see a piece of paper with a face on it. Eyes, hair, nose, mouth.

Uh, sorry, not seeing it.

This is one of those Rorschach test things again, like the "car" beneath the bridge?
 
  • #700
There is something important stated at 1:37 IMO:
"People want to make the assumption that the voice saying "down the hill" it belongs to the person captured in the image from the cell phone, that's not necessarily the case."
Well, now that is confusing since KG always says...there is one PERP--the guy on the bridge ""
I follow her twitter and she always says that.
WTH ??? so now it might not be ??
Was the voice at end of trail and means nothing ??
But guy in video, per KG, is the perp but not his voice ??
I am so confuddled right now UGH
 
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