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Thanks; what do you think of it?New MS includes newly released list of witnesses for KAK's trial.
The Delphi Murders: The Stephenson Case and the Witnesses Against Kegan Kline
The name I'm surprised to see is FBI agent Robertson.Thanks; what do you think of it?
@NoSpoonFeeding Thanks for the list
I guess most of those are not surprising; I only see one of the non-official names that I'm not familiar with. I'm surprised to see TK there, though.
MOO I can think of several things they can use TK for but nothing critical to the case because I don't see a bombshell of him actively testifying "against" KK.Thanks; what do you think of it?
@NoSpoonFeeding Thanks for the list
I guess most of those are not surprising; I only see one of the non-official names that I'm not familiar with. I'm surprised to see TK there, though.
Who is she? Thanks in advance.The name I'm surprised to see is FBI agent Robertson.
I'm going to guess that, since she was in Delphi early on, it could be for when KK was discovered to be the catfisher AKA Anthony Shots. That is what led to the illegal images being found. edit to addThe name I'm surprised to see is FBI agent Robertson.
She was the FBI agent who wrote the RL search PCA. She seemed to be involved in the Delphi case from very early on, so I'm not overly surprised that she is listed, since we know KAK's a_shots was investigated. It will be interesting to see, though, if she was involved in KAK's CSAM investigation unrelated to Delphi, as well. I remember in KAK's PCA, it said the FBI called the ISP Cyber-Crime unit with the a_shots information. And that was VERY early, which has always made me curious if the FBI already had eyes on KAK for his CSAM activity prior to the murders, or when that came about.Who is she? Thanks in advance.
She is only on the witness list because she interviewed KK. He admitted to her that he used the Anthony Shots "persona" to talk to girls but maybe he said something off-camera that we don't know about.Is it common for a news reporter to make the witness list in a case like this?
I’ve seen and heard her work on A&L’s case, but I am curious about what she’ll have to offer for KAK’s trial.
Also, thx 4 the heads up on the new MS episode, @TL4S. Now I’ll have something to listen to while I do chores in a little while.![]()
Remember when KAK told BMcD in the jailhouse interview that LE told him they knew his dad killed the girls? I mean, if the jury is going to see that interview as evidence, are they just supposed to ignore the Delphi bit? Will it be redacted? Will the prosecutor explain why LE said that (IF they did say it)? Will the prosecutor use that too prove what a liar KAK is? I honestly don't know how that will work in court. TK could be utilized as a witness in any number of ways, but how is the jury supposed to view him? Idk...would the state calling TK to testify muddy the waters for KK’s conviction? Could defense claim some or of the crimes were TK’s?
New MS includes newly released list of witnesses for KAK's trial.
The Delphi Murders: The Stephenson Case and the Witnesses Against Kegan Kline
KK is not charged with anything to do with the Dephi victims so I'm assuming there was no chargeable crime committed when he had contact with anyone to do with that case.I wonder if anything related to L will be included in the evidence against KAK in his CSAM case. We don't know how far things went in his catfishing her, so is she part of the CSAM evidence, or not? They don't have to connect it to her ultimate murder, except that a_shots already has been linked, on some level, because ISP asked for tips sent to the A &L tip line. A_shots was KAK, and a_shots is part of the CSAM case, so I don't know how they can keep Delphi out of KAK's CSAM case completely, unless there is absolutely no evidence used in court that includes anything to do with him catfishing L.
I don't mean to talk in circles. I'm legitimately curious and unsure how it will work in court.
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He has possession and exploitation charges, but as far as I understand, we don't know specifics on who the victims were. If KAK was in possession of CSAM images of L, through his a_shots persona catfishing, she would be an identifiable victim, and the fact that she was later murdered, even if unrelated, doesn't diminish her victimization by KAK. That's where I get confused about how that would be handled. I imagine she might be able to be part of the CSAM evidence without the murder entering the discussion. But at this point, we don't know what the nature of L's and a_shots conversions truly were. And honestly, I feel like her family would have been aware of this long ago if she was included in the evidence, so it's probably a moot point.KK is not charged with anything to do with the Dephi victims so I'm assuming there was no chargeable crime committed when he had contact with anyone to do with that case.
For them to mention the murders or even the victims' names is something that will cause a mistrial. Together judge/prosecutor/defense will agree to the ground rules about what will be said in court and how to avoid any mention of the murders. The only crime I could see that even KK came close to committing is Synthetic Identity, which KK is charged with for some other dates. MOO
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During the ISP interrogation, they thoroughly questioned KK about everything to do with Delphi and they never threw at him that he had CSAM of either of them. That would have been a big hammer.He has possession and exploitation charges, but as far as I understand, we don't know specifics on who the victims were. If KAK was in possession of CSAM images of L, through his a_shots persona catfishing, she would be an identifiable victim, and the fact that she was later murdered, even if unrelated, doesn't diminish her victimization by KAK. That's where I get confused about how that would be handled. I imagine she might be able to be part of the CSAM evidence without the murder entering the discussion. But at this point, we don't know what the nature of L's and a_shots conversions truly were. And honestly, I feel like her family would have been aware of this long ago if she was included in the evidence, so it's probably a moot point.
In your link, AC from Murder Sheet is interviewed. Her quote below one of the things of interest since we haven't seen sentencing talked about a lot. Charging, sentencing and concurrent/consecutive crimes in IN remains a mystery to me.In the Fox59 video included in this article from yesterday, it said they were going to talk more about the witness list at 5pm. I haven't found any updated article. Did anyone happen to watch Fox59 news at 5pm last night?
Prosecution lists witnesses in case against suspect linked to Delphi murders investigation
The stiffest penalty Kline faces for conviction on one count in Miami County is a maximum of 12 years.
By the time he comes to trial, Kline will have waited 33 months behind bars and, if convicted of multiple charges, likely would face concurrent sentences with suspended time.
I have previously posted news articles about a number of similar cases, and pointed out that based on other convicted CSAM defendants, the penalties were not that severe and all of them pled out before trial. A couple of cases were much worse crimes.At this point, KAK's charges appear to be all level 5 and 6 felonies; the F4 charges have been downgraded. Max for an F5 is 1-6 yrs with an advisory of 3 yrs.