IN IN - Kristy Kelley, 27, Boonville, 15 Aug 2014 #1

[Midwest]

Thanks Azureine. Sounds like they have really searched the area well. Amazing, heartwarming amount of efforts put in by people like you.

 

[kemo]

The vehicle that drove east on Route 62, 20 minutes after Kristy's car drove west is critical to this investigation. Law Enforcement needs to rule it in or out. It issue can be somewhat quantified; perhaps this has been done already.

First, how well can the image, enhanced as well as it can be done, be narrowed down as to year, make model, color and other significant features such as a roof rack? (Xterras have distinctive roof racks). Secondly, what percent of the vehicles in the greater Boonville area are potentially this mystery vehicle? There are probably many "light colored" SUVs but if you can eliminate some makes and models, it can potentially whittled down. If Boonville is like my area, most SUVs lack a roof rack. Third, how many vehicles drove past the Tastee Freeze during that 20 minute interval? Knowing the total number of vehicles in the Boonville area and the percentage could be the mystery Vehicle, we can ascertain the likelihood that the second vehicle was other than Kristy's. From this we would have to consider the amount of publicity given to the mystery vehicle. We would have to come up with a subjective number to express the probability that someone in a different vehicle drove past Tastee Freeze going east 20 minutes after Kristy AND DID NOT COME FORWARD.

If , as I suspect, the identity of the mystery car can be narrowed down to a very small percentage of the cars in town, if there were very few cars passing Tastee Freeze at that late hour and if reasonable effort was made to get the owner to come forward, it would appear highly likely that the mystery car was Kristy's.

 

[blueherring]

I think Kristy's mom agrees. The other night on JVM, Kristy's mom said she couldn't imagine that Kristy was heading anywhere other than home after leaving the VFW, because it was very late and Kristy had to be at work at CVS at 7:30 in the morning.

Some parents are in denial about their children's social lives too. The SS isn't known for being a real upstanding place.

 

[justme41]

My understanding is that the second vehicle was travelling behind the Tastee Freeze on Flint Street, or Possibly Walnut. Just Clarifying.

 

[concernedmother]

Nice to see so many locals on here.

 

[blueherring]

I was talking about this case with my husband last night and I found out that my husband works at the same company as Kristy's ex-husband. Things that I know for sure is that he has been at work every day since then and he works first shift.

Something I don't know for sure but my husband was pretty sure he had heard was that the kids were with him that night (Thursday night to Sunday evening "weekends" are common in this area for custody agreements so it makes sense).

Also, while most of us don't think she just left town, almost all of the guys at my husband's job think she did. Not sure if they have more information than we do but that's what most of the guys seem to think. Might just be a guy thing?

Ive actually heard that rumor around town as well. I really hope thats the case. Ive been searching everyday since Monday. I just cant believe that nobody has found her vehicle! There were hundreds out searching today. We covered A LOT of ground! There were professional search teams and police officers instructing everyone. Today was very productive.

 

[jessarox]

I can't find it for the life of me but I remember reading an article about either Kristy or Joelle where someone mentioned that the kids (or maybe just one kid) were saying that they should look in places they had recently taken a vacation. Maybe they know something we don't know?

 

[blueherring]

The vehicle that drove east on Route 62, 20 minutes after Kristy's car drove west is critical to this investigation. Law Enforcement needs to rule it in or out. It issue can be somewhat quantified; perhaps this has been done already.

First, how well can the image, enhanced as well as it can be done, be narrowed down as to year, make model, color and other significant features such as a roof rack? (Xterras have distinctive roof racks). Secondly, what percent of the vehicles in the greater Boonville area are potentially this mystery vehicle? There are probably many "light colored" SUVs but if you can eliminate some makes and models, it can potentially whittled down. If Boonville is like my area, most SUVs lack a roof rack. Third, how many vehicles drove past the Tastee Freeze during that 20 minute interval? Knowing the total number of vehicles in the Boonville area and the percentage could be the mystery Vehicle, we can ascertain the likelihood that the second vehicle was other than Kristy's. From this we would have to consider the amount of publicity given to the mystery vehicle. We would have to come up with a subjective number to express the probability that someone in a different vehicle drove past Tastee Freeze going east 20 minutes after Kristy AND DID NOT COME FORWARD.

If , as I suspect, the identity of the mystery car can be narrowed down to a very small percentage of the cars in town, if there were very few cars passing Tastee Freeze at that late hour and if reasonable effort was made to get the owner to come forward, it would appear highly likely that the mystery car was Kristy's.

At that hour of the night our roads are usually dead. I've drove through town at that hour. It's not unusual to not pass another vehicle at that hour at all.

 

[margarita25]

I'm a lurker but thought I would respond to a few questions. I live in Boonville and have been helping with the search.

- Someone mentioned aerial searches. They have been doing these with a private plane since she went missing. I haven't seen any go over in a few days but they may just be looking in other locations.

- I believe her phone was found on the bathroom counter, as if she set it down to wash her hands and forgot it.

- All roads in the county have been searched by car at least once and in some cases more than once. People have also searched around lakes, looking for tire tracks or disturbed vegetation. One day there were over 600 people out driving and on foot looking last week. Many locations such as parking garages, car lots, parking lots and the areas between Boonville and Evansville have also been searched.

- There was also an ATV ride a few nights ago with over 100 ATVs showing up and searching hard to reach areas all over the county.

- There aren't really any deep lakes in town that she may have gone into. Even city lake probably isn't deep enough to conceal a car.

- There are a ton of lakes in the county, probably over 100, but most are not right up on the road so driving into one on accident seems like a long shot. My mind keeps going to Bluegrass Fish and Wildlife area. It is remote, though only 10 min from Boonville, there are over 28 pits and deep lakes in the area, and the road is really bad. You are always weaving to avoid potholes. There are a lot of deer and other wildlife running around. There are some big lakes right up on the road out there. It is the way I usually take to Elberfeld, but I certainly wouldn't drive out there in the middle of the night. It's too desolate! I think there are 2500 acres out there, 600 acres of it is water, and much of it hard to get to unless you are on foot or on an ATV. I can absolutely see an accident with a deer running across the road, but I can't imagine why she would be out there in the middle of the night.

Welcome Azureine Thank you for the great local input!

:welcome5:

 

[steelman]

Ive actually heard that rumor around town as well. I really hope thats the case. Ive been searching everyday since Monday. I just cant believe that nobody has found her vehicle! There were hundreds out searching today. We covered A LOT of ground! There were professional search teams and police officers instructing everyone. Today was very productive.

I'm sure as you guys were out searching, there was probably plenty of conversations going on as well. What seems to be the most popular theory on what may have happened to this young lady ?

 

[blueherring]

To be honest we are as in the dark as you. Of course we all are speculating just trying to find something that makes sense. I've heard rumors that some think she took off and also rumor of a possible stalker. There is rumor of guy that had posted some seriously crazy stuff on his fb. According to his Facebook he had been hanging out in the coal mines just north of boonville, up all hours of the night. He uploaded a video of im assuming, himself being questioned by police. He posted that he had admitted himself to the er for a mental eval. He was posting something about her like every few minutes, just strange stuff, proclaiming his love, i would think that they have really looked into this guy as his posting were completely bizarre.

 

[Seajay]

Totally unrelated and the facts are a little different but 2 months ago we had a parental abduction of a child here in Los Angeles. Amber Alert went out in multi counties. It was believed he might be headed to Mexico so the border was manned. Soon intel came in he had been seen in Baldwin Hills, a specific area within Los Angeles County. LE was looking everywhere for him. Yesterday the child was located with his father, in TEXAS. How he got there is a mystery to me other than Dad took him.

My point is, if she was abducted, she could be anywhere. Depending on how long the abductor had her car, he could have her in another state right now and have the car hidden somewhere there, or ditched there in a parking lot and it hasn't been discovered yet. fwiw.

 

[margarita25]

I'm also reminded of the surveillance video of the silver van (possible perp) released in Jessica Heeringa's case. Absolutely nothing has become of that van sighting as of yet. Jessica is still missing over a year later.

 

[margarita25]

I can't help but think she might have gone to visit with someone she knew, possibly a male friend / romantic interest.

 

[Azureine]

I agree with blueherring. All the speculation here echoes what people are saying in town. There aren't really any good leads pointing one way or another, so we are all just completely baffled. The women in town are STRAIGHT FREAKING OUT. They are handing out mace, offering advice on how to obtain a carry permit, and giving stranger danger safety classes. All good things, and we do need to be more aware. People prior to this would leave their doors unlocked, or their cars unlocked and I know I didn't think anything about going for a run in the neighborhood or a hike at Scales Lake by myself. That being said, the stranger theory doesn't feel right to me. I'm not sure why.

I do think initially most people were thinking (or hoping) that she went off the road and could be rescued. I mean, what are the odds that some guy would be waiting for her on just the night she was at the VFW, on just the night she went out alone to her car, on just the night they closed early, and on just the night she left her phone in the bathroom? Possible, but that's a lot of stars lining up. I'd say if someone got her, she knew them.

I think now they are treating it more like an abduction, although that's just my opinion. While they have had a lot of car/ATV searches, I haven't seen any really organized foot searches where they set up a grid and marked areas searched. It's very wooded, very thick and tangled, and very easy to miss something walking out at Scales Lake or one of the other wooded areas if you aren't working a pattern. That may be what they are doing with the team today. Unfortunately I couldn't go over there today to help.

One thing that has been discussed, is if someone just parked her car in their garage or barn, it could sit there literally for years and nobody would know about it, particularly if the person had no connection to her that might make them suspicious. They could easily have done that and then walked back to the VFW from anywhere in town in an hour or under, and probably not have been noticed. Thought I know that isn't usual, it's also sort of brilliant. Nobody would expect it, and there are a lot of weird hermits and old barns on private properties all over town and the surrounding areas.

 

[margarita25]

To all the people here helping out with searching, you guys are awesome.

It might be worth taking a look at these state park areas mentioned upstream (lincoln, etc), particularly for her vehicle.

 

[margarita25]

Wait a minute, you guys remember that case with the woman who left a bar up in the mountains, Cali? Janet, ugh, can't remember her name...her vehicle was found down a slope iirc. Trying to remember this case...

 

[margarita25]

BBM:

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One thing that has been discussed, is if someone just parked her car in their garage or barn, it could sit there literally for years and nobody would know about it, particularly if the person had no connection to her that might make them suspicious. They could easily have done that and then walked back to the VFW from anywhere in town in an hour or under, and probably not have been noticed. Thought I know that isn't usual, it's also sort of brilliant. Nobody would expect it, and there are a lot of weird hermits and old barns on private properties all over town and the surrounding areas.

Aint this the truth. Garage, barn, storage place...it might have even been sunk.

 

[kathryann]

Does anyone think that while the manager and bartender were in the back room, someone came into the VFW and asked Kristy for a ride home, she may have figured that she would be back in time to meet the bartender? Someone she thought she could trust?

 

[blueherring]

I agree with blueherring. All the speculation here echoes what people are saying in town. There aren't really any good leads pointing one way or another, so we are all just completely baffled. The women in town are STRAIGHT FREAKING OUT. They are handing out mace, offering advice on how to obtain a carry permit, and giving stranger danger safety classes. All good things, and we do need to be more aware. People prior to this would leave their doors unlocked, or their cars unlocked and I know I didn't think anything about going for a run in the neighborhood or a hike at Scales Lake by myself. That being said, the stranger theory doesn't feel right to me. I'm not sure why.

I do think initially most people were thinking (or hoping) that she went off the road and could be rescued. I mean, what are the odds that some guy would be waiting for her on just the night she was at the VFW, on just the night she went out alone to her car, on just the night they closed early, and on just the night she left her phone in the bathroom? Possible, but that's a lot of stars lining up. I'd say if someone got her, she knew them.

I think now they are treating it more like an abduction, although that's just my opinion. While they have had a lot of car/ATV searches, I haven't seen any really organized foot searches where they set up a grid and marked areas searched. It's very wooded, very thick and tangled, and very easy to miss something walking out at Scales Lake or one of the other wooded areas if you aren't working a pattern. That may be what they are doing with the team today. Unfortunately I couldn't go over there today to help.

One thing that has been discussed, is if someone just parked her car in their garage or barn, it could sit there literally for years and nobody would know about it, particularly if the person had no connection to her that might make them suspicious. They could easily have done that and then walked back to the VFW from anywhere in town in an hour or under, and probably not have been noticed. Thought I know that isn't usual, it's also sort of brilliant. Nobody would expect it, and there are a lot of weird hermits and old barns on private properties all over town and the surrounding areas.

It's sad, we never locked anything up, i think those days are over in our sweet little town. I too am a bit leary to hike scales or an old country road by myself now too and started locking doors during the day of I'm home alone.