IN IN - Kristy Kelley, 27, Boonville, 15 Aug 2014 #1

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  • #641
Since you guys have been out in the field searching, and you have seen the number of people volunteering and what not, what are your feelings on whether or not this could have been an accident ? You know, she flipped her vehicle and is laying off in a ditch somewhere ? Personally, I think the chances are almost zero with this many eyes looking and searching and retracing steps. But, I'm not there and I am not familiar with the terrain out in the rural areas.

Also, about how many miles would you say they have fanned out from the FVW with their search crews ?

I think an accident is slim but still possible.

The entire county plus neighboring counties have been searched, repeatedly. I guess all that's left are private properties and more searches on foot in wooded areas. If you scroll back through the discussion I mention more details on what has been covered.
 
  • #642
I think she returned to the bar to get her phone and encountered a couple of creeps that were lurking out in the parking lot doing drugs or tweaking or boozing it up. The VFW is pretty much on a dead end street, so they could sit there in the dark and do whatever it was they were doing without having to worry about the cops showing up. She pulls up, by herself, probably bangs on the door and gets no response. They notice this lone woman, and being the opportunists that they are, they approach her and probably strike up a conversation.

If there are two of them involved, one could have driven her car, with the other one following. If this scenario is even close to being accurate, then both she and her car could be 100 miles from Boonville in any direction, possibly even further. This would have transpired somewhere between 1:30 A. M. and 2 A.M., giving them 4 hours(+-) of darkness to drive wherever they wanted to go. They could have always driven back to Boonville after the sun came up. This scenario of course, would put the crime scene many many miles away from their stomping ground, the area they call home.

I still think the cops would be well advised to ask employers to contact them in regards to employees that came in super late on Friday, or didn't come in to work at all.

I think distributing flyers with pictures of her vehicle and a license plate number within a 50-100 mile radius would also be well advised.

I think a reasonable guess would be that her SUV headed AWAY from town, since it wasn't seen again on the video cameras. This would also make sense from the standpoint that the perps wouldn't want to go into the city street lights and traffic if they were in the process of abducting her. They would want to head into the darkest, out of the way path they could so as not to be recognized by anyone.

When they find the car, they will find her too.
 
  • #643
Really really would have thought at least by now they would have found her vehicle. :(
 
  • #644
Really really would have thought at least by now they would have found her vehicle. :(

They'll find it, it may just be a lot further away than they expected.

Of course, it could also be hidden in a thicket of trees somewhere on private property, blocked from view of the highway, and impossible to see from the air.

The locals around there, especially ones that were born and raised in that area, would know all the good hiding spots, dirt roads and ATV trails.
 
  • #645
I think she returned to the bar to get her phone and encountered a couple of creeps that were lurking out in the parking lot doing drugs or tweaking or boozing it up. The VFW is pretty much on a dead end street, so they could sit there in the dark and do whatever it was they were doing without having to worry about the cops showing up. She pulls up, by herself, probably bangs on the door and gets no response. They notice this lone woman, and being the opportunists that they are, they approach her and probably strike up a conversation.

If there are two of them involved, one could have driven her car, with the other one following. If this scenario is even close to being accurate, then both she and her car could be 100 miles from Boonville in any direction, possibly even further. This would have transpired somewhere between 1:30 A. M. and 2 A.M., giving them 4 hours(+-) of darkness to drive wherever they wanted to go. They could have always driven back to Boonville after the sun came up. This scenario of course, would put the crime scene many many miles away from their stomping ground, the area they call home.

I still think the cops would be well advised to ask employers to contact them in regards to employees that came in super late on Friday, or didn't come in to work at all.

I think distributing flyers with pictures of her vehicle and a license plate number within a 50-100 mile radius would also be well advised.

I think a reasonable guess would be that her SUV headed AWAY from town, since it wasn't seen again on the video cameras. This would also make sense from the standpoint that the perps wouldn't want to go into the city street lights and traffic if they were in the process of abducting her. They would want to head into the darkest, out of the way path they could so as not to be recognized by anyone.

When they find the car, they will find her too.
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Makes sense her car would have headed out one of the roads to the N.
 
  • #646
I think she returned to the bar to get her phone and encountered a couple of creeps that were lurking out in the parking lot doing drugs or tweaking or boozing it up. The VFW is pretty much on a dead end street, so they could sit there in the dark and do whatever it was they were doing without having to worry about the cops showing up. She pulls up, by herself, probably bangs on the door and gets no response. They notice this lone woman, and being the opportunists that they are, they approach her and probably strike up a conversation.

If there are two of them involved, one could have driven her car, with the other one following. If this scenario is even close to being accurate, then both she and her car could be 100 miles from Boonville in any direction, possibly even further. This would have transpired somewhere between 1:30 A. M. and 2 A.M., giving them 4 hours(+-) of darkness to drive wherever they wanted to go. They could have always driven back to Boonville after the sun came up. This scenario of course, would put the crime scene many many miles away from their stomping ground, the area they call home.

I still think the cops would be well advised to ask employers to contact them in regards to employees that came in super late on Friday, or didn't come in to work at all.

I think distributing flyers with pictures of her vehicle and a license plate number within a 50-100 mile radius would also be well advised.

I think a reasonable guess would be that her SUV headed AWAY from town, since it wasn't seen again on the video cameras. This would also make sense from the standpoint that the perps wouldn't want to go into the city street lights and traffic if they were in the process of abducting her. They would want to head into the darkest, out of the way path they could so as not to be recognized by anyone.

When they find the car, they will find her too.

What you suggest is straightforward, and not too complicated - often the way sexual abductions/assaults take place.
 
  • #647
I've been sucked into the theory there is possibly a connection between Joelle Lockwood and Kristy, for the simple fact I can't think of anything else....... I'm trying to do a search to see if there is any possibility both Kristy and Joelle were on the same dating website does anyone have a user name/password for Match that they could use, I really don't want to set one up but if no one has one I'll sign up and do some digging.
TIA
 
  • #648
In case anyone is interested:

I ran over to the local grocery store at lunch, and I saw at least two dozen flyers and signs with Kristy's picture and info on them. That's in just a ~1 mile stretch. People are now putting those "Elect so-and-so" type signs in their yard that are big and waterproof with all the information on them about Kristy. I'm not sure who printed them but they really attract attention and are great! I'm just staggered at how much this community has come together and how hard they are working to find Kristy. They have printed T shirts with her info and are handing them out today. They are seriously getting the word out!

Also, I've seen a plane fly over twice today. I can't say if they are looking for Kristy, but it looks like the same plane, small and private, and low flying.

I've personally thought LE aren't saying anything because they have nothing to say, beyond what they shared with the public about a week ago. Though I realize they probably wouldn't show their cards if they had something they are investigating, so as not to spook any POI, I've gotten the sense that there hadn't been much else discovered in the past week. This is just speculation, however, and I really cross my fingers that they actually do know more and are getting closer to an answer!
 
  • #649
Ive been very drawn to the north side of town, scales lake area, polk patch area (honeysuckle rd), and also the stripperpits north of town. Just a gut feeling really. Its so wooded and lots of little remote locations.
 
  • #650
Ive been very drawn to the north side of town, scales lake area, polk patch area (honeysuckle rd), and also the stripperpits north of town. Just a gut feeling really. Its so wooded and lots of little remote locations.

I'm not familiar with this side of the state, my family is around Bloomington/Spencer area, but I keep hearing about the quarries and different wild life area's and it just screams to me that is A LOT of ground to cover, so many places to hide a vehicle. Whoever was talking about the two perps, one driving her vehicle and one driving their own theory keeps coming to mind.
 
  • #651
I'm not familiar with this side of the state, my family is around Bloomington/Spencer area, but I keep hearing about the quarries and different wild life area's and it just screams to me that is A LOT of ground to cover, so many places to hide a vehicle. Whoever was talking about the two perps, one driving her vehicle and one driving their own theory keeps coming to mind.

There are many atv tracks all over out there. Seems people have really been looking out there. That's a job for atvs and horses, nearly impossible to search all of it on foot.
 
  • #652
There are many atv tracks all over out there. Seems people have really been looking out there. That's a job for atvs and horses, nearly impossible to search all of it on foot.

That's what I wondered, and when I keep hearing " it's all been searched" I'm thinking no, couldn't possibly be. Too much area to cover?
 
  • #653
That's what I wondered, and when I keep hearing " it's all been searched" I'm thinking no, couldn't possibly be. Too much area to cover?

Sure looks like it has to me. I know they have had tons of atv searchers. After all this is country boy territory. These boys know their hunting and fishing spots well :)
 
  • #654
When her car is seen driving past the business, is there another car following? Or, a car before her? How close?
 
  • #655
Kristy was supposed to go to SS with her friends. Why didnt she? Then she made plans with bartender and for unknown reason left without even telling her.Could she have been hanging at VFW hoping someone showed up? It appears she didnt want go with any of these people. She then leaves phone behind and disappears when no one is watching and her and her car not seen since. What does this all mean?

I hadn't mentioned this before, but I was thinking that exact thing!

She gets dressed up to go out on a Thursday night when she knows she has to be at work early on Friday. Her friend takes pictures of her that night (looking nice) and posts them on FB. Were they hoping a certain someone would see those pics and decide to drop by the VFW? Idk. But I found it weird that she didn't move on to the other bar with her friends, or choose to head home at that time. Instead she sits in a bar, basically alone. I got the feeling she was hoping someone would show up. Who? I have no idea. I wish we knew if they found any useful info on her phone.
 
  • #656
When her car is seen driving past the business, is there another car following? Or, a car before her? How close?

Nope, no other cars. Just hers.

I agree on North side of town. A little girl went missing a few months ago in town, more towards Lynnville, and I helped search for her. We were searching the mining roads and it creeped me the hell out how desolate and vast those areas were. You would absolutely have to cover some of that on foot to say you searched it all. Some of it is so overgrown and dense an ATV couldn't even get back there, and there are old abandoned trailers and pits. Luckily the little girl had just run away, and she was out there back in the mining area but finally decided to come home after two days. That also was large search though, and lots of people immediately came out to help look.
 
  • #657
I hadn't mentioned this before, but I was thinking that exact thing!

Her friend takes pictures of her that night (looking nice) and posts them on FB. Were they hoping a certain someone would see those pics and decide to drop by the VFW?

Were they posting those photos Thursday night or didn't they just post them after she went missing as the most recent pics of her?
 
  • #658
I hadn't mentioned this before, but I was thinking that exact thing!

She gets dressed up to go out on a Thursday night when she knows she has to be at work early on Friday. Her friend takes pictures of her that night (looking nice) and posts them on FB. Were they hoping a certain someone would see those pics and decide to drop by the VFW? Idk. But I found it weird that she didn't move on to the other bar with her friends, or choose to head home at that time. Instead she sits in a bar, basically alone. I got the feeling she was hoping someone would show up. Who? I have no idea. I wish we knew if they found any useful info on her phone.

What if she was waiting for her buddy to go with her to Southside and it was getting late. Her buddy was in the back, maybe taking way too long and it got so late that Kristy needed to get home? If she didn't want to wait any longer on her friend and didn't feel comfortable going back to the VFW office, she might have just left. I am not rude but if I'm waiting too long on someone and I need to go, I'm only going to wait so long before I jet.

Southside bar is a dive. I'm surprised she even discussed going there, but I've also wondered if she headed that way and just never made it inside. If she got to the church, but never passed Old National's cameras, she either went right towards Scales or left towards Southside bar. I'm not sure which direction her house was from there but apparently close.
 
  • #659
Were they posting those photos Thursday night or didn't they just post them after she went missing as the most recent pics of her?

:doh:

That hadn't occured to me! But you are probably right.
 
  • #660
What if she was waiting for her buddy to go with her to Southside and it was getting late. Her buddy was in the back, maybe taking way too long and it got so late that Kristy needed to get home? If she didn't want to wait any longer on her friend and didn't feel comfortable going back to the VFW office, she might have just left. I am not rude but if I'm waiting too long on someone and I need to go, I'm only going to wait so long before I jet.

Southside bar is a dive. I'm surprised she even discussed going there, but I've also wondered if she headed that way and just never made it inside. If she got to the church, but never passed Old National's cameras, she either went right towards Scales or left towards Southside bar. I'm not sure which direction her house was from there but apparently close.

It's possible. I also don't think it's weird she just left without saying anything. People do that all the time in bars when it's getting late.

I still think she headed back to the VFW when she realized she left her phone. Let's assume she made it and something didn't happen to her there. She arrived and it was closed up and no one was there. Would she head to her bartender friend's house? Did she know the manager well enough to feel she could go to his/her home? After listening to the interview with her dad, it sounds like she was quite attached to her phone. She could have tried to hurry off to someone's house that could let her back into the VFW. I know we can't sleuth those people, but it might point to a reason she drove off in a an unusual direction. . .say out of town.
 
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