Found Deceased IN - Paul Etter wanted for Kidnapping, Tippecanoe County, 22 June 2019

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I know I’ll continue to monitor this closely. I wonder if any of our talented scanner members can listen back on today’s events.

Have a feeling this will keep me up tonight!

 

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If he had his mind made up, maybe he wanted media there so he could leave a message for his family. I'm sad for the pain his family must be in.

Oh for sure. His family must be horrified, can’t even begin to imagine what they are going through right now and the young lady he did this to.

 

[verbonica]

Something clicked when I saw his mugshot. I just knew. I’ve never seen puppies or goats either!! Maybe Mannerisms (head hung low) and the little bit of facial recognition we were allowed to see.

Same for me. He just has the same shaped head, the broad nose, and something about the tilt of his head is familiar, and a bald-headed man is very likely to wear a cap, even on a mild-weather day, as it was on the day of that attack on the girls. I held a piece of paper over the top of his head/forehead, and something just clicks. I could be way off, but it's certainly worth following up on.

 

[tresir2012]

He already has a prior felony record so his DNA should already be in CODIS. If there were a match to other crimes, wouldn't that have already happened?

 

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He already has a prior felony record so his DNA should already be in CODIS. If there were a match to other crimes, wouldn't that have already happened?

I'm not sure Indiana collected DNA from felons until just recently.

 

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Search for Paul Etter ends in suicide

 

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We are not on a island here. Same thoughts on SM

 

[tresir2012]

I'm not sure Indiana collected DNA from felons until just recently.

I just had a similar convo on another thread. I'll post the same link here in a minute that this is taken from.

ETA link

Police: New DNA law leads to arrest in January trailer theft case | 2018-10-22 | The Indiana Lawyer

"DNA was previously collected only from convicted felons."

 

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I just had a similar convo on another thread. I'll post the same link here in a minute that this is taken from.

ETA link

Police: New DNA law leads to arrest in January trailer theft case | 2018-10-22 | The Indiana Lawyer

"DNA was previously collected only from convicted felons."

I just wonder when Indiana started collecting DNA from convicted felons. That charge of his was sometime back. I'll have to look at his records again to see when that was.

 

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I just wonder when Indiana started collecting DNA from convicted felons. That charge of his was sometime back. I'll have to look at his records again to see when that was.

So the criminal felony was decided in 2002.
Case Search - MyCase

 

[bears10]

I just wonder when Indiana started collecting DNA from convicted felons. That charge of his was sometime back. I'll have to look at his records again to see when that was.

DNA samples from felons now state law

This article is from 2006...

A statewide, mandatory felony Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) collection program was initiated to reinforce a new state law. Mark Renner, director of operation for Strand Lab's, said judges will start making DNA collection a standard order of probation, and will be adding it to sentencing orders."Local judges can issue contempt or jail time to any individual choosing not to comply," said Renner. This program, launched in August, collected 5,000 new offender samples for analysis and inclusion in state and national crime databases, Public Relations Beverly Phillips said in a news release.

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.According to the release, the law previously only required the collection of DNA samples from certain classes of felons, including violent felons and certain sex offenses.

Since the only felony conviction was for residential entry (as far as I am understanding from the case summary), I do not think he would have had to submit DNA in 2002, but I have definitely been wrong before.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

I just wonder when Indiana started collecting DNA from convicted felons. That charge of his was sometime back. I'll have to look at his records again to see when that was.

Wow, they JUST started last year according to this article -- passed in 2017 session, enacted 1/1/18 -- the 31st state to do so:
DNA Collection Law goes into Effect

 

[bears10]

Wow, they JUST started last year according to this article -- passed in 2017 session, enacted 1/1/18 -- the 31st state to do so:
DNA Collection Law goes into Effect

This is for anyone *arrested* for a felony. Before this, only convicted felons had to submit DNA. So the previous poster was wondering about when convicted felons had to start submitting DNA.

 

[Steph8angels]

Well I hope they obtain his DNA now.
He is suspected of a more serious crime on this young woman. A charge he was fleeing from.
And maybe solve some cases that have no current leads.
I find his behavior since 2002 and only received house arrest could he have secrets around the land his family owns? Did this sexual monster just start all of a sudden? Or never been caught or over looked. His death ended his misery but not his past story.

 

[tresir2012]

So the criminal felony was decided in 2002.
Case Search - MyCase

However he was a violent felon because of the battery conviction, although it was only a misdemeanour from what I can make out. He also had a felony charge in '97 but looks like he got off that. Interesting, I found his Flora address on that charge. See below.

07/08/1997
Converted Event
to appear warrant to issue for defendant's arrest. (NOTE: copy to LeGrand Clark and defendant)

07/28/1997
Converted Event
Comes now the defendant in person and gives as his true age 33 years and as his permanent address 5694 E. 100 N., Flora, In. 46929.

 

[tresir2012]

Well I hope they obtain his DNA now.
He is suspected of a more serious crime on this young woman. A charge he was fleeing from.
And maybe solve some cases that have no current leads.
I find his behavior since 2002 and only received house arrest could he have secrets around the land his family owns? Did this sexual monster just start all of a sudden? Or never been caught or over looked. His death ended his misery but not his past story.

It's unlikely isn't it, that he just started at age 56 IMO. You don't just happen to have shackles and handcuffs around do you?

 

[tresir2012]

DNA samples from felons now state law

This article is from 2006...



Since the only felony conviction was for residential entry (as far as I am understanding from the case summary), I do not think he would have had to submit DNA in 2002, but I have definitely been wrong before.

He may well have just missed it but even violent misdemeanour's (like the battery) should have caught him. However, this was similar to another case where DNA had not been taken because the violent domestic battery had been admitted to only as a misdemeanour. (DN a prior Delphi POI). So it certainly isn't cut and dried - they should have it, but then who knows?

 

[bears10]

However he was a violent felon because of the battery conviction, although it was only a misdemeanour from what I can make out. He also had a felony charge in '97 but looks like he got off that. Interesting, I found his Flora address on that charge. See below.

07/08/1997
Converted Event
to appear warrant to issue for defendant's arrest. (NOTE: copy to LeGrand Clark and defendant)

07/28/1997
Converted Event
Comes now the defendant in person and gives as his true age 33 years and as his permanent address 5694 E. 100 N., Flora, In. 46929.

But he wasn't a convicted violent felon. Misdemeanor =/= felony. Arrest =/= conviction.

 

[Steph8angels]

But he wasn't a convicted violent felon. Misdemeanor =/= felony. Arrest =/= conviction.

Yes it would seem his charges and convictions were minor compared to the charges and crimes he committed.
Why? Did he have an
attitude of just getting some good ole boys slap on the wrist?
Maybe at 56 he realized this time prison was in his future. He no longer was a monster who was hiding his secrets walking amongst others. A light was shining on him.....
My MOO

 

[Trocroc9]

Do you think they are meeting with his family today or in the near future to hear their thoughts on video and voice? I hope they do not protect him and do tell the truth now that he is deceased. Imo they would be able to easily identify his voice and mannerisms even before DNA could be checked out.