Found Deceased IN - Paul Etter wanted for Kidnapping, Tippecanoe County, 22 June 2019

  • #641
I am new here and haven't really checked out the site to see how it all works yet. I wanted to add some thoughts, and it ended up in a novel so I'm sorry for the long post. Ha.

I have some thoughts after skimming the GH video.

When I saw he brought up Delphi I was freaked out. After skimming it again just now I think maybe he brought it up because people kept messaging him about it. He says in the messages that a lot of people were messaging him, I'm sure a decent chunk of those messages were not as friendly as the one we see in the video. So maybe he was getting out ahead of it with this person messaging him.

<modsnip - discussion of another case>

Some statements that freaked me out:
"A couple hours of disregard for a woman equals 20 plus years of Earthly Purgatory"- A couple hours of disregard? This shows you he does not feel bad about what he did, he doesn't even really think it was a big deal. Also, more religious speak.
"You should be asking me why nature created men with such high libidos. I wore my wife out." - This is not something you commonly share with strangers. Also tells me he has certain viewpoint of women and that he does not take responsibility for his actions.
"I am most attracted to women with green eyes, some red hair and O negative blood. I CAN SMELL THEM when they walk in front of me. True animal attraction." (Paraphrased a bit)- This one freaked me out the most!
"The devil brought me that very girl. She had sold her soul to the devil some time before..she told me she was my female equivalent...she is scratched and bruised a little from her attempts to resist. She did much more damage to me." - He is either saying he asked the devil for a woman of his very favorite type or that the devil put one in his path to make him sin. The girl the devil sent to him was put there to be tortured because that is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. Again, he takes no responsibility here. The devil made him do it and it is her fault she was a victim. It is also her fault she is 'a little' scratched and bruised because she resisted. Him saying she did much more damage to him also shows that he does not think what he did to her was that bad. I also pick up on the fact that this girl was SMART. She read her captor well and told him what he wanted to hear. And she got to live.
"She never shut up after she wore of her drink"- Again, his views regarding women are not positive. He also mentions her being drunk a lot. I want to say he comes off like he has a problem with people who drink but I also feel like I read somewhere that he had a drinking problem?
"My trophy" - OMG when I saw that picture! I'm assuming that is the victims. I have not heard stories from my friends saying that their IUD fell out/ accidently got pulled out/etc. I'm sure it happens. It just is very rare. The IUD gets placed at the top of the cervix and the strings are supposed to be in there too. I cannot imagine what he did to this poor girl to get himself his trophy. He is also in someone's house. The ceiling looks old and it appears that there is a bookshelf in the background. So he was definitely being helped by someone or he went back to one of his own properties.

He seems to make very random statements. Like he is typing the current thoughts in his head to this stranger. A lot of times these statements have nothing to do with the conversation and aren't generally things you'd share with a stranger. One example would be him talking about his joints and body pain. This one also makes me question how he could physically accomplish what he did if he is in such poor shape and if it would even be possible for him to be BG. Another is when he brings up how he identified which women he is attracted to the most and how they have a specific genotype. His obituary states the he was into genealogy. I guarantee this guy had DNA testing done through 23andMe or somewhere. So if they have DNA in the Delphi case, and he was the killer, that probably would have been connected already. When he talks about the women in Walmart he says 'a dozen young women'. His victim was a young woman. There are a few other things I can't remember rn but it appears he likes his women younger. "A young deputy came face to face with me, gun drawn. I COMMANDED him to back up and I turned and walked away." Again he mentions young. Maybe he has a need to control younger people in general. This also says he believes he had some magical power over the deputy. I do wonder if this is true, what happened and how did he get away? I know the police arrived as he was 'leaving his driveway'. This incensed me at the time. After Abby and Libby filming their murderer and the person still not being caught, I thought really?! This guy was in his driveway and you just let him go?

He mentions feminists and abortion. This statement tells me that he has a disdain for women for some reason and is probably religious. If he values the life of an unborn fetus, this may help explain why he dropped his victim off at her car. Also, that takes him another step away from being BG.

He seems to rotate between being overly trusting and paranoid. I find it so odd that he talked to this stranger like a best friend. Then he starts asking about LE. This could be paranoia or it could be that he is actually not as mentally ill as I think. One time it seems pretty obvious to me that she is trying to get information for LE. When she mentions the heat. That is like saying, "Hey. Are you still in Indiana?" So when he accuses her he actually seems to be very on top of things mentally. However, he takes her at her word and continues on talking.

It is pretty crazy that the victim pulled into a driveway and it just so happened to be owned by a sadistic person with some severe mental issues. I live pretty close to where this happened. I heard all the crazy sirens when they were doing the searches and stuff. It is a random road to be driving on at 4 in the morning. I assumed she had been drinking and slightly messed up her car causing the flat tire before he started mentioning it. Hopefully the poor girl was so drunk she doesn't remember what happened to her while chained. I'm not saying she was drunk for sure btw, it was just a thought that crossed my mind when I first heard about the event.

<modsnip - off topic>

His obituary asks people to donate to NAMI, which is the National Alliance on Mental Illness.
 
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  • #642
I am new here and haven't really checked out the site to see how it all works yet. I wanted to add some thoughts, and it ended up in a novel so I'm sorry for the long post. Ha.

I have some thoughts after skimming the GH video.

When I saw he brought up Delphi I was freaked out. After skimming it again just now I think maybe he brought it up because people kept messaging him about it. He says in the messages that a lot of people were messaging him, I'm sure a decent chunk of those messages were not as friendly as the one we see in the video. So maybe he was getting out ahead of it with this person messaging him.

With him bringing up the devil so much and a few other times throughout this conversation he talks about religious things. This intrigued me because during the last press conference in Delphi LE brought up a somewhat unknown movie called 'The Shack". It is a religious themed movie that is about a father who loses his daughter and tries to find peace with God in a shack in the woods. The daughter was murdered by a serial killer.

HLN discussing the PC and the movie

“I recently watched a movie called 'The Shack.' There’s also a book that talks so well about evil, about death and about eternity," Carter said. "To the murderer, I believe you have just a little bit of a conscience left. And I can assure you that how you left (German and Williams) in that woods is not what they’re experiencing today."

Some statements that freaked me out:
"A couple hours of disregard for a woman equals 20 plus years of Earthly Purgatory"- A couple hours of disregard? This shows you he does not feel bad about what he did, he doesn't even really think it was a big deal. Also, more religious speak.
"You should be asking me why nature created men with such high libidos. I wore my wife out." - This is not something you commonly share with strangers. Also tells me he has certain viewpoint of women and that he does not take responsibility for his actions.
"I am most attracted to women with green eyes, some red hair and O negative blood. I CAN SMELL THEM when they walk in front of me. True animal attraction." (Paraphrased a bit)- This one freaked me out the most!
"The devil brought me that very girl. She had sold her soul to the devil some time before..she told me she was my female equivalent...she is scratched and bruised a little from her attempts to resist. She did much more damage to me." - He is either saying he asked the devil for a woman of his very favorite type or that the devil put one in his path to make him sin. The girl the devil sent to him was put there to be tortured because that is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. Again, he takes no responsibility here. The devil made him do it and it is her fault she was a victim. It is also her fault she is 'a little' scratched and bruised because she resisted. Him saying she did much more damage to him also shows that he does not think what he did to her was that bad. I also pick up on the fact that this girl was SMART. She read her captor well and told him what he wanted to hear. And she got to live.
"She never shut up after she wore of her drink"- Again, his views regarding women are not positive. He also mentions her being drunk a lot. I want to say he comes off like he has a problem with people who drink but I also feel like I read somewhere that he had a drinking problem?
"My trophy" - OMG when I saw that picture! I'm assuming that is the victims. I have not heard stories from my friends saying that their IUD fell out/ accidently got pulled out/etc. I'm sure it happens. It just is very rare. The IUD gets placed at the top of the cervix and the strings are supposed to be in there too. I cannot imagine what he did to this poor girl to get himself his trophy. He is also in someone's house. The ceiling looks old and it appears that there is a bookshelf in the background. So he was definitely being helped by someone or he went back to one of his own properties.

He seems to make very random statements. Like he is typing the current thoughts in his head to this stranger. A lot of times these statements have nothing to do with the conversation and aren't generally things you'd share with a stranger. One example would be him talking about his joints and body pain. This one also makes me question how he could physically accomplish what he did if he is in such poor shape and if it would even be possible for him to be BG. Another is when he brings up how he identified which women he is attracted to the most and how they have a specific genotype. His obituary states the he was into genealogy. I guarantee this guy had DNA testing done through 23andMe or somewhere. So if they have DNA in the Delphi case, and he was the killer, that probably would have been connected already. When he talks about the women in Walmart he says 'a dozen young women'. His victim was a young woman. There are a few other things I can't remember rn but it appears he likes his women younger. "A young deputy came face to face with me, gun drawn. I COMMANDED him to back up and I turned and walked away." Again he mentions young. Maybe he has a need to control younger people in general. This also says he believes he had some magical power over the deputy. I do wonder if this is true, what happened and how did he get away? I know the police arrived as he was 'leaving his driveway'. This incensed me at the time. After Abby and Libby filming their murderer and the person still not being caught, I thought really?! This guy was in his driveway and you just let him go?

He mentions feminists and abortion. This statement tells me that he has a disdain for women for some reason and is probably religious. If he values the life of an unborn fetus, this may help explain why he dropped his victim off at her car. Also, that takes him another step away from being BG.

He seems to rotate between being overly trusting and paranoid. I find it so odd that he talked to this stranger like a best friend. Then he starts asking about LE. This could be paranoia or it could be that he is actually not as mentally ill as I think. One time it seems pretty obvious to me that she is trying to get information for LE. When she mentions the heat. That is like saying, "Hey. Are you still in Indiana?" So when he accuses her he actually seems to be very on top of things mentally. However, he takes her at her word and continues on talking.

It is pretty crazy that the victim pulled into a driveway and it just so happened to be owned by a sadistic person with some severe mental issues. I live pretty close to where this happened. I heard all the crazy sirens when they were doing the searches and stuff. It is a random road to be driving on at 4 in the morning. I assumed she had been drinking and slightly messed up her car causing the flat tire before he started mentioning it. Hopefully the poor girl was so drunk she doesn't remember what happened to her while chained. I'm not saying she was drunk for sure btw, it was just a thought that crossed my mind when I first heard about the event.

The blood thing. So O neg blood is the most rare type. These people are universal donors but can only get blood from another O neg. A woman with *** blood who becomes pregnant with a father who has neg blood can cause big problems. Her immune system sees the neg blood as an invader and attacks. So some people believe that O neg blood types descend from something not human, otherwise why would the almost universally common type feel the need to protect itself? Others believe that O neg blood is from Aliens. O neg blood is thought of as an unbroken bloodline and some believe these people descend directly from the earliest humans, possibly Adam and Eve. O neg is most common in Basques. Their language is the oldest known in Europe and is unlike any other known language family. Their folklore says that the DEVIL had such a hard time trying to learn their language he gave up. Other folklore says that their land was peopled by a race of giants.They lived side by side with humans until the coming of Christ. If you want to really get yourself into a rabbit hole regarding O neg blood maybe try this thread. The Rh Neg Blood Type - Nephilim bloodline

His obituary asks people to donate to NAMI, which is the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

Welcome aboard. Interesting reading!
 
  • #643
I am new here and haven't really checked out the site to see how it all works yet. I wanted to add some thoughts, and it ended up in a novel so I'm sorry for the long post. Ha.

I have some thoughts after skimming the GH video.

When I saw he brought up Delphi I was freaked out. After skimming it again just now I think maybe he brought it up because people kept messaging him about it. He says in the messages that a lot of people were messaging him, I'm sure a decent chunk of those messages were not as friendly as the one we see in the video. So maybe he was getting out ahead of it with this person messaging him.

With him bringing up the devil so much and a few other times throughout this conversation he talks about religious things. This intrigued me because during the last press conference in Delphi LE brought up a somewhat unknown movie called 'The Shack". It is a religious themed movie that is about a father who loses his daughter and tries to find peace with God in a shack in the woods. The daughter was murdered by a serial killer.

HLN discussing the PC and the movie

"So some people believe that O neg blood types descend from something not human, otherwise why would the almost universally common type feel the need to protect itself? Others believe that O neg blood is from Aliens."

LOL, I'm doomed!!!....I'm O Neg...
“I recently watched a movie called 'The Shack.' There’s also a book that talks so well about evil, about death and about eternity," Carter said. "To the murderer, I believe you have just a little bit of a conscience left. And I can assure you that how you left (German and Williams) in that woods is not what they’re experiencing today."

Some statements that freaked me out:
"A couple hours of disregard for a woman equals 20 plus years of Earthly Purgatory"- A couple hours of disregard? This shows you he does not feel bad about what he did, he doesn't even really think it was a big deal. Also, more religious speak.
"You should be asking me why nature created men with such high libidos. I wore my wife out." - This is not something you commonly share with strangers. Also tells me he has certain viewpoint of women and that he does not take responsibility for his actions.
"I am most attracted to women with green eyes, some red hair and O negative blood. I CAN SMELL THEM when they walk in front of me. True animal attraction." (Paraphrased a bit)- This one freaked me out the most!
"The devil brought me that very girl. She had sold her soul to the devil some time before..she told me she was my female equivalent...she is scratched and bruised a little from her attempts to resist. She did much more damage to me." - He is either saying he asked the devil for a woman of his very favorite type or that the devil put one in his path to make him sin. The girl the devil sent to him was put there to be tortured because that is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. Again, he takes no responsibility here. The devil made him do it and it is her fault she was a victim. It is also her fault she is 'a little' scratched and bruised because she resisted. Him saying she did much more damage to him also shows that he does not think what he did to her was that bad. I also pick up on the fact that this girl was SMART. She read her captor well and told him what he wanted to hear. And she got to live.
"She never shut up after she wore of her drink"- Again, his views regarding women are not positive. He also mentions her being drunk a lot. I want to say he comes off like he has a problem with people who drink but I also feel like I read somewhere that he had a drinking problem?
"My trophy" - OMG when I saw that picture! I'm assuming that is the victims. I have not heard stories from my friends saying that their IUD fell out/ accidently got pulled out/etc. I'm sure it happens. It just is very rare. The IUD gets placed at the top of the cervix and the strings are supposed to be in there too. I cannot imagine what he did to this poor girl to get himself his trophy. He is also in someone's house. The ceiling looks old and it appears that there is a bookshelf in the background. So he was definitely being helped by someone or he went back to one of his own properties.

He seems to make very random statements. Like he is typing the current thoughts in his head to this stranger. A lot of times these statements have nothing to do with the conversation and aren't generally things you'd share with a stranger. One example would be him talking about his joints and body pain. This one also makes me question how he could physically accomplish what he did if he is in such poor shape and if it would even be possible for him to be BG. Another is when he brings up how he identified which women he is attracted to the most and how they have a specific genotype. His obituary states the he was into genealogy. I guarantee this guy had DNA testing done through 23andMe or somewhere. So if they have DNA in the Delphi case, and he was the killer, that probably would have been connected already. When he talks about the women in Walmart he says 'a dozen young women'. His victim was a young woman. There are a few other things I can't remember rn but it appears he likes his women younger. "A young deputy came face to face with me, gun drawn. I COMMANDED him to back up and I turned and walked away." Again he mentions young. Maybe he has a need to control younger people in general. This also says he believes he had some magical power over the deputy. I do wonder if this is true, what happened and how did he get away? I know the police arrived as he was 'leaving his driveway'. This incensed me at the time. After Abby and Libby filming their murderer and the person still not being caught, I thought really?! This guy was in his driveway and you just let him go?

He mentions feminists and abortion. This statement tells me that he has a disdain for women for some reason and is probably religious. If he values the life of an unborn fetus, this may help explain why he dropped his victim off at her car. Also, that takes him another step away from being BG.

He seems to rotate between being overly trusting and paranoid. I find it so odd that he talked to this stranger like a best friend. Then he starts asking about LE. This could be paranoia or it could be that he is actually not as mentally ill as I think. One time it seems pretty obvious to me that she is trying to get information for LE. When she mentions the heat. That is like saying, "Hey. Are you still in Indiana?" So when he accuses her he actually seems to be very on top of things mentally. However, he takes her at her word and continues on talking.

It is pretty crazy that the victim pulled into a driveway and it just so happened to be owned by a sadistic person with some severe mental issues. I live pretty close to where this happened. I heard all the crazy sirens when they were doing the searches and stuff. It is a random road to be driving on at 4 in the morning. I assumed she had been drinking and slightly messed up her car causing the flat tire before he started mentioning it. Hopefully the poor girl was so drunk she doesn't remember what happened to her while chained. I'm not saying she was drunk for sure btw, it was just a thought that crossed my mind when I first heard about the event.

The blood thing. So O neg blood is the most rare type. These people are universal donors but can only get blood from another O neg. A woman with *** blood who becomes pregnant with a father who has neg blood can cause big problems. Her immune system sees the neg blood as an invader and attacks. So some people believe that O neg blood types descend from something not human, otherwise why would the almost universally common type feel the need to protect itself? Others believe that O neg blood is from Aliens. O neg blood is thought of as an unbroken bloodline and some believe these people descend directly from the earliest humans, possibly Adam and Eve. O neg is most common in Basques. Their language is the oldest known in Europe and is unlike any other known language family. Their folklore says that the DEVIL had such a hard time trying to learn their language he gave up. Other folklore says that their land was peopled by a race of giants.They lived side by side with humans until the coming of Christ. If you want to really get yourself into a rabbit hole regarding O neg blood maybe try this thread. The Rh Neg Blood Type - Nephilim bloodline

His obituary asks people to donate to NAMI, which is the National Alliance on Mental Illness.
"So some people believe that O neg blood types descend from something not human, otherwise why would the almost universally common type feel the need to protect itself? Others believe that O neg blood is from Aliens."

LOL...I'm doomed....I'm O Neg!!
 
  • #644
I am new here and haven't really checked out the site to see how it all works yet. I wanted to add some thoughts, and it ended up in a novel so I'm sorry for the long post. Ha.

I have some thoughts after skimming the GH video.

When I saw he brought up Delphi I was freaked out. After skimming it again just now I think maybe he brought it up because people kept messaging him about it. He says in the messages that a lot of people were messaging him, I'm sure a decent chunk of those messages were not as friendly as the one we see in the video. So maybe he was getting out ahead of it with this person messaging him.

With him bringing up the devil so much and a few other times throughout this conversation he talks about religious things. This intrigued me because during the last press conference in Delphi LE brought up a somewhat unknown movie called 'The Shack". It is a religious themed movie that is about a father who loses his daughter and tries to find peace with God in a shack in the woods. The daughter was murdered by a serial killer.

HLN discussing the PC and the movie

“I recently watched a movie called 'The Shack.' There’s also a book that talks so well about evil, about death and about eternity," Carter said. "To the murderer, I believe you have just a little bit of a conscience left. And I can assure you that how you left (German and Williams) in that woods is not what they’re experiencing today."

Some statements that freaked me out:
"A couple hours of disregard for a woman equals 20 plus years of Earthly Purgatory"- A couple hours of disregard? This shows you he does not feel bad about what he did, he doesn't even really think it was a big deal. Also, more religious speak.
"You should be asking me why nature created men with such high libidos. I wore my wife out." - This is not something you commonly share with strangers. Also tells me he has certain viewpoint of women and that he does not take responsibility for his actions.
"I am most attracted to women with green eyes, some red hair and O negative blood. I CAN SMELL THEM when they walk in front of me. True animal attraction." (Paraphrased a bit)- This one freaked me out the most!
"The devil brought me that very girl. She had sold her soul to the devil some time before..she told me she was my female equivalent...she is scratched and bruised a little from her attempts to resist. She did much more damage to me." - He is either saying he asked the devil for a woman of his very favorite type or that the devil put one in his path to make him sin. The girl the devil sent to him was put there to be tortured because that is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. Again, he takes no responsibility here. The devil made him do it and it is her fault she was a victim. It is also her fault she is 'a little' scratched and bruised because she resisted. Him saying she did much more damage to him also shows that he does not think what he did to her was that bad. I also pick up on the fact that this girl was SMART. She read her captor well and told him what he wanted to hear. And she got to live.
"She never shut up after she wore of her drink"- Again, his views regarding women are not positive. He also mentions her being drunk a lot. I want to say he comes off like he has a problem with people who drink but I also feel like I read somewhere that he had a drinking problem?
"My trophy" - OMG when I saw that picture! I'm assuming that is the victims. I have not heard stories from my friends saying that their IUD fell out/ accidently got pulled out/etc. I'm sure it happens. It just is very rare. The IUD gets placed at the top of the cervix and the strings are supposed to be in there too. I cannot imagine what he did to this poor girl to get himself his trophy. He is also in someone's house. The ceiling looks old and it appears that there is a bookshelf in the background. So he was definitely being helped by someone or he went back to one of his own properties.

He seems to make very random statements. Like he is typing the current thoughts in his head to this stranger. A lot of times these statements have nothing to do with the conversation and aren't generally things you'd share with a stranger. One example would be him talking about his joints and body pain. This one also makes me question how he could physically accomplish what he did if he is in such poor shape and if it would even be possible for him to be BG. Another is when he brings up how he identified which women he is attracted to the most and how they have a specific genotype. His obituary states the he was into genealogy. I guarantee this guy had DNA testing done through 23andMe or somewhere. So if they have DNA in the Delphi case, and he was the killer, that probably would have been connected already. When he talks about the women in Walmart he says 'a dozen young women'. His victim was a young woman. There are a few other things I can't remember rn but it appears he likes his women younger. "A young deputy came face to face with me, gun drawn. I COMMANDED him to back up and I turned and walked away." Again he mentions young. Maybe he has a need to control younger people in general. This also says he believes he had some magical power over the deputy. I do wonder if this is true, what happened and how did he get away? I know the police arrived as he was 'leaving his driveway'. This incensed me at the time. After Abby and Libby filming their murderer and the person still not being caught, I thought really?! This guy was in his driveway and you just let him go?

He mentions feminists and abortion. This statement tells me that he has a disdain for women for some reason and is probably religious. If he values the life of an unborn fetus, this may help explain why he dropped his victim off at her car. Also, that takes him another step away from being BG.

He seems to rotate between being overly trusting and paranoid. I find it so odd that he talked to this stranger like a best friend. Then he starts asking about LE. This could be paranoia or it could be that he is actually not as mentally ill as I think. One time it seems pretty obvious to me that she is trying to get information for LE. When she mentions the heat. That is like saying, "Hey. Are you still in Indiana?" So when he accuses her he actually seems to be very on top of things mentally. However, he takes her at her word and continues on talking.

It is pretty crazy that the victim pulled into a driveway and it just so happened to be owned by a sadistic person with some severe mental issues. I live pretty close to where this happened. I heard all the crazy sirens when they were doing the searches and stuff. It is a random road to be driving on at 4 in the morning. I assumed she had been drinking and slightly messed up her car causing the flat tire before he started mentioning it. Hopefully the poor girl was so drunk she doesn't remember what happened to her while chained. I'm not saying she was drunk for sure btw, it was just a thought that crossed my mind when I first heard about the event.

The blood thing. So O neg blood is the most rare type. These people are universal donors but can only get blood from another O neg. A woman with *** blood who becomes pregnant with a father who has neg blood can cause big problems. Her immune system sees the neg blood as an invader and attacks. So some people believe that O neg blood types descend from something not human, otherwise why would the almost universally common type feel the need to protect itself? Others believe that O neg blood is from Aliens. O neg blood is thought of as an unbroken bloodline and some believe these people descend directly from the earliest humans, possibly Adam and Eve. O neg is most common in Basques. Their language is the oldest known in Europe and is unlike any other known language family. Their folklore says that the DEVIL had such a hard time trying to learn their language he gave up. Other folklore says that their land was peopled by a race of giants.They lived side by side with humans until the coming of Christ. If you want to really get yourself into a rabbit hole regarding O neg blood maybe try this thread. The Rh Neg Blood Type - Nephilim bloodline

His obituary asks people to donate to NAMI, which is the National Alliance on Mental Illness.
Lots of great thoughts here!

Firstly, I agree with you that PE might have initially brought up Delphi because it had been plastered all over SM and maybe even his personal messages.

Secondly, I've also wondered about the religious talk at the PC. Even before PE was on the scene I wondered if there was something from the audio that precipitated those comments. After PE and his devil talk, I wondered about that. What if he was BG? Is there audio talking about the devil? Who knows?

Thirdly, yeah, no remorse, no respect for women. In fact, I think he thinks he's a gift to them. He and his libido. His desire for hair with red in it and green eyes does concern me a bit in regards to the Delphi case, but that's all I'll say on that. However, I do think with his "trophy" and some of his messages, I don't doubt at all he was trying to get her pregnant. And what you said about dropping her at her car...that was very, VERY interesting. I hadn't thought of that, and it could be a good point if he was indeed trying to impregnate her.

Next, his painful joints. Ugh. I hate this. I don't think it dismisses him at all from the Delphi case. Especially if unicorn blood could be the cure. *delete from mind*

And yes on your thoughts on him wanting to control (command) younger people. And yes on sounding sane throughout most of his conversing. Think Aubrey Trail in the Sydney Loofe case. Crazy sh*t said and done by an otherwise normal person.

All MOO, and I really liked your post!
 
  • #645
I am new here and haven't really checked out the site to see how it all works yet. I wanted to add some thoughts, and it ended up in a novel so I'm sorry for the long post. Ha.

I have some thoughts after skimming the GH video.

When I saw he brought up Delphi I was freaked out. After skimming it again just now I think maybe he brought it up because people kept messaging him about it. He says in the messages that a lot of people were messaging him, I'm sure a decent chunk of those messages were not as friendly as the one we see in the video. So maybe he was getting out ahead of it with this person messaging him.

With him bringing up the devil so much and a few other times throughout this conversation he talks about religious things. This intrigued me because during the last press conference in Delphi LE brought up a somewhat unknown movie called 'The Shack". It is a religious themed movie that is about a father who loses his daughter and tries to find peace with God in a shack in the woods. The daughter was murdered by a serial killer.

HLN discussing the PC and the movie

“I recently watched a movie called 'The Shack.' There’s also a book that talks so well about evil, about death and about eternity," Carter said. "To the murderer, I believe you have just a little bit of a conscience left. And I can assure you that how you left (German and Williams) in that woods is not what they’re experiencing today."

Some statements that freaked me out:
"A couple hours of disregard for a woman equals 20 plus years of Earthly Purgatory"- A couple hours of disregard? This shows you he does not feel bad about what he did, he doesn't even really think it was a big deal. Also, more religious speak.
"You should be asking me why nature created men with such high libidos. I wore my wife out." - This is not something you commonly share with strangers. Also tells me he has certain viewpoint of women and that he does not take responsibility for his actions.
"I am most attracted to women with green eyes, some red hair and O negative blood. I CAN SMELL THEM when they walk in front of me. True animal attraction." (Paraphrased a bit)- This one freaked me out the most!
"The devil brought me that very girl. She had sold her soul to the devil some time before..she told me she was my female equivalent...she is scratched and bruised a little from her attempts to resist. She did much more damage to me." - He is either saying he asked the devil for a woman of his very favorite type or that the devil put one in his path to make him sin. The girl the devil sent to him was put there to be tortured because that is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. Again, he takes no responsibility here. The devil made him do it and it is her fault she was a victim. It is also her fault she is 'a little' scratched and bruised because she resisted. Him saying she did much more damage to him also shows that he does not think what he did to her was that bad. I also pick up on the fact that this girl was SMART. She read her captor well and told him what he wanted to hear. And she got to live.
"She never shut up after she wore of her drink"- Again, his views regarding women are not positive. He also mentions her being drunk a lot. I want to say he comes off like he has a problem with people who drink but I also feel like I read somewhere that he had a drinking problem?
"My trophy" - OMG when I saw that picture! I'm assuming that is the victims. I have not heard stories from my friends saying that their IUD fell out/ accidently got pulled out/etc. I'm sure it happens. It just is very rare. The IUD gets placed at the top of the cervix and the strings are supposed to be in there too. I cannot imagine what he did to this poor girl to get himself his trophy. He is also in someone's house. The ceiling looks old and it appears that there is a bookshelf in the background. So he was definitely being helped by someone or he went back to one of his own properties.

He seems to make very random statements. Like he is typing the current thoughts in his head to this stranger. A lot of times these statements have nothing to do with the conversation and aren't generally things you'd share with a stranger. One example would be him talking about his joints and body pain. This one also makes me question how he could physically accomplish what he did if he is in such poor shape and if it would even be possible for him to be BG. Another is when he brings up how he identified which women he is attracted to the most and how they have a specific genotype. His obituary states the he was into genealogy. I guarantee this guy had DNA testing done through 23andMe or somewhere. So if they have DNA in the Delphi case, and he was the killer, that probably would have been connected already. When he talks about the women in Walmart he says 'a dozen young women'. His victim was a young woman. There are a few other things I can't remember rn but it appears he likes his women younger. "A young deputy came face to face with me, gun drawn. I COMMANDED him to back up and I turned and walked away." Again he mentions young. Maybe he has a need to control younger people in general. This also says he believes he had some magical power over the deputy. I do wonder if this is true, what happened and how did he get away? I know the police arrived as he was 'leaving his driveway'. This incensed me at the time. After Abby and Libby filming their murderer and the person still not being caught, I thought really?! This guy was in his driveway and you just let him go?

He mentions feminists and abortion. This statement tells me that he has a disdain for women for some reason and is probably religious. If he values the life of an unborn fetus, this may help explain why he dropped his victim off at her car. Also, that takes him another step away from being BG.

He seems to rotate between being overly trusting and paranoid. I find it so odd that he talked to this stranger like a best friend. Then he starts asking about LE. This could be paranoia or it could be that he is actually not as mentally ill as I think. One time it seems pretty obvious to me that she is trying to get information for LE. When she mentions the heat. That is like saying, "Hey. Are you still in Indiana?" So when he accuses her he actually seems to be very on top of things mentally. However, he takes her at her word and continues on talking.

It is pretty crazy that the victim pulled into a driveway and it just so happened to be owned by a sadistic person with some severe mental issues. I live pretty close to where this happened. I heard all the crazy sirens when they were doing the searches and stuff. It is a random road to be driving on at 4 in the morning. I assumed she had been drinking and slightly messed up her car causing the flat tire before he started mentioning it. Hopefully the poor girl was so drunk she doesn't remember what happened to her while chained. I'm not saying she was drunk for sure btw, it was just a thought that crossed my mind when I first heard about the event.

The blood thing. So O neg blood is the most rare type. These people are universal donors but can only get blood from another O neg. A woman with *** blood who becomes pregnant with a father who has neg blood can cause big problems. Her immune system sees the neg blood as an invader and attacks. So some people believe that O neg blood types descend from something not human, otherwise why would the almost universally common type feel the need to protect itself? Others believe that O neg blood is from Aliens. O neg blood is thought of as an unbroken bloodline and some believe these people descend directly from the earliest humans, possibly Adam and Eve. O neg is most common in Basques. Their language is the oldest known in Europe and is unlike any other known language family. Their folklore says that the DEVIL had such a hard time trying to learn their language he gave up. Other folklore says that their land was peopled by a race of giants.They lived side by side with humans until the coming of Christ. If you want to really get yourself into a rabbit hole regarding O neg blood maybe try this thread. The Rh Neg Blood Type - Nephilim bloodline

His obituary asks people to donate to NAMI, which is the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

Welcome to WS and TYVM for your account of his conversations. Regarding the last paragraph about O neg blood, is that what he said or is that from another source or your opinion? Interesting but hmmm aliens?

ETA re the woman I think he was BSing she was drunk - I think he was. She seems to have remembered the attack very well and even found the barn and found him for the police - a very brave woman .
 
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  • #646
His ranting just makes me think he was in a full on psychotic episode for a while there.
 
  • #647
Lots of great thoughts here!

Firstly, I agree with you that PE might have initially brought up Delphi because it had been plastered all over SM and maybe even his personal messages.

Secondly, I've also wondered about the religious talk at the PC. Even before PE was on the scene I wondered if there was something from the audio that precipitated those comments. After PE and his devil talk, I wondered about that. What if he was BG? Is there audio talking about the devil? Who knows?

Thirdly, yeah, no remorse, no respect for women. In fact, I think he thinks he's a gift to them. He and his libido. His desire for hair with red in it and green eyes does concern me a bit in regards to the Delphi case, but that's all I'll say on that. However, I do think with his "trophy" and some of his messages, I don't doubt at all he was trying to get her pregnant. And what you said about dropping her at her car...that was very, VERY interesting. I hadn't thought of that, and it could be a good point if he was indeed trying to impregnate her.

Next, his painful joints. Ugh. I hate this. I don't think it dismisses him at all from the Delphi case. Especially if unicorn blood could be the cure. *delete from mind*

And yes on your thoughts on him wanting to control (command) younger people. And yes on sounding sane throughout most of his conversing. Think Aubrey Trail in the Sydney Loofe case. Crazy **** said and done by an otherwise normal person.

All MOO, and I really liked your post!

Between the unicorn reference and him smelling type O blood I just basically zoned out. :(
 
  • #648
Where was he in 1985 when that Purdue girl went missing? Her brown hair looked reddish. He did attend Purdue near that time. Not sure the year(s).
 
  • #649
Yes. So if he thinks one or both was a unicorn, how does his certainty of a SA correlate with that? I just hate his line of thinking...

They were rare pure beings whom BG defiled and used, gaining healing strength but also losing humanity in the horrific act of taking their blood/killing them? Just a guess as to what was going on in PE's mind.

PE seems obsessed with mythology and folklore, and blood and blood types. It's hard to determine his mythological understanding from his ramblings though. He seems to hold a worldview with strong traditional Biblical elements, yet his equation of 2 innocent vulnerable girls is clearly not to the fearsome and powerful Biblical unicorn, but to other unicorn traditions or to the popular modern fantasy accounts.

MOO: NAMI is a fitting way for those who cared about him to memorialize him in a way that might benefit others.


Please remember that scanner thread content and related discussion points are not to be brought into non-scanner "upstairs" threads. We don't want another thread shutdown!

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  • #650
Where was he in 1985 when that Purdue girl went missing? Her brown hair looked reddish. He did attend Purdue near that time. Not sure the year(s).
Year sounds exactly right for when he could have been there. Anyone have info on that case?
 
  • #651
It’s hard to get a grasp on this guy. I just don’t know what to think....is he or isn’t he?

I find he contradicts himself a lot and has lessened what he did to this girl in his mind. I doubt she voluntarily gave him her IUD and I’m sure the scratches and bruises he inflicted upon her weren’t part of what he basically describes as consensual.

So when he says he knows nothing about Delphi, I take that with a grain of salt. He sure has expressesed some deep thoughts about the case, none of which I’ve heard the likes of before...

I just can’t rule him out. He made a comment in his fb messages in the very beginning that strangely sticks with me...”my recent crime”
 
  • #652
Where was he in 1985 when that Purdue girl went missing? Her brown hair looked reddish. He did attend Purdue near that time. Not sure the year(s).
I know he graduated high school in 1982...
 
  • #653
These were rantings of an alcoholic with mental problems IMO. His musings on mythical beings and the devil were an indication of this I think. I wonder if he had any STD's which could have affected him in that way? Left untreated they can be serious. I dread to think what he has been up to over the years and think he could very well be responsible for many other crimes. Can someone post links to his SM?
 
  • #654
I am assuming this article has been shared, but just in case?

Excerpt:

According to Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby, Etter’s name came up previously during investigations of the murders of 14-year-old Liberty “Libby” German and 13-year-old Abigail “Abby” Williams. Both girls were found deceased in February 2017, close to the Monon High Bridge in Delphi County, after they went out for a hike together.

“His name has come up through the process,” Leazenby said on Friday.
 
  • #655
Case Search - MyCase

This is a link to his record but it times out after a while. Basically his non civil record consists of 16 cases, 8 traffic related, 4 misdemeanors and 3 felonies, plus the current charges which obviously will not be going anywhere now. I will C/P them as the link will not stay live for long.

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14 cases in this post 2 in the next one.

State of Indiana v. Paul A. Etter

79D01-1906-F3-000026

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 1

Case Type

F3 - Felony 3

Filed

06/25/2019

Status

06/25/2019, Pending

Charges

35-42-4-1(a)(1)/F3: Rape when compelled by force or imminent threat of force., 35-42-3-2(a)/F5: Kidnapping where committed by using a vehicle., 35-42-3-3(a/F5: Criminal Confinement where a vehicle is used., 35-42-3-2(a)/F6:Kidnapping This is the basic kidnapping statute., 35-42-3-3(a)/F6:Criminal Confinement, 35-42-4-8(a)(1)(A)/F6: Sexual Battery Victim compelled to submit by force or imminent threat of forc, 35-45-2-5(2)/MA: Interference with the Reporting of a Crime

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Harrington

Filed
06/25/2019

State of Indiana v. PAUL A ETTER

79D06-1612-IF-010265

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

12/16/2016

Status

01/02/2017, Decided

Charges

9-19-10-2/IFD: Failure of Occupant to Use Safety Belt

Parties

State of Indiana, ETTER

Filed
12/16/2016

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-1512-IF-010732

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

12/10/2015

Status

12/21/2015, Decided

Charges

Driving While Suspended-A Infraction

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Filed
12/10/2015

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-1212-CM-001887

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

CM - Criminal Misdemeanor

Filed

12/31/2012

Status

06/28/2013, Decided

Charges

Operating While Intoxicated/Endangering a person, Operating With a BAC at least 0.08 or more, Disregarding a Stop Sign, False or Fictitious Registration, Habitual Substance Offender

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Sandy

Filed
12/31/2012

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-1209-IF-008951

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

09/24/2012

Status

10/25/2012, Decided

Charges

Seatbelt Violation - Adult

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Filed
09/24/2012

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-0707-IF-006283

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

07/20/2007

Status

08/06/2007, Decided

Charges

Operating Vehicle While Displaying Incorrect Registration Number

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Filed
07/20/2007

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-0412-IF-010364

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

12/27/2004

Status

04/01/2005, Decided

Charges

Exceeding Urban Speed Limit Limit (30 MPH) (Speed:50) (Zone:35)

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Filed
12/27/2004

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-0306-IF-006078

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

06/30/2003

Status

07/21/2003, Decided

Charges

Seatbelt Violation - Adult Driver

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Filed
06/30/2003

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D06-0303-IF-002254

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 6

Case Type

IF - Infraction

Filed

03/12/2003

Status

03/14/2003, Decided

Charges

Seatbelt Violation - Adult Driver

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Filed
03/12/2003

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D05-0203-FD-000174

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 5

Case Type

FD - Class D Felony

Filed

03/25/2002

Status

06/17/2002, Decided

Charges

Residential Entry, Resisting Law Enforcement, Battery

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Gothard

Filed
03/25/2002

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79E01-9707-DF-000277

Court

Tippecanoe County Court 1

Case Type

DF - CL D Felony or lesser charge

Filed

06/12/1997

Status

06/26/2003, Decided

Charges

D FELONY

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Gothard

Filed
06/12/1997

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79E01-9403-CF-000115

Court

Tippecanoe County Court 1

Case Type

CF - Criminal Felony

Filed

01/11/1994

Status

07/14/2003, Decided

Charges

C FELONY

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Gothard

Filed
01/11/1994

State of Indiana vs. Paul A. Etter

79E01-9112-CM-000062

Court

Tippecanoe County Court 1

Case Type

CM - Criminal Misdemeanor

Filed

09/15/1991

Status

06/25/2003, Decided

Charges

CRIMINAL MISD

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Emerick

Filed
09/15/1991

State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter

79D05-8908-CM-002689

Court

Tippecanoe Superior Court 5

Case Type

CM - Criminal Misdemeanor

Filed

08/11/1989

Status

06/18/2018, Decided

Charges

CRIMINAL MISD

Parties

State of Indiana, Etter

Attorneys

Emerick

Filed
08/11/1989
 
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  • #656
I am assuming this article has been shared, but just in case?

Excerpt:

According to Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby, Etter’s name came up previously during investigations of the murders of 14-year-old Liberty “Libby” German and 13-year-old Abigail “Abby” Williams. Both girls were found deceased in February 2017, close to the Monon High Bridge in Delphi County, after they went out for a hike together.

“His name has come up through the process,” Leazenby said on Friday.
I’m glad you reposted that because now I’m reading it differently than I did the first time...

“Etters name came up previously during investigations of the murders...”

When I first read it my mind was telling me that his name came up as a result of his current crime as I assumed many turned in tips about him.

But now I see that his name came up before, during previous investigations in the actual Delphi case.

This tells me someone in the past 2 years, prior to this kidnapping and rape, turned in a tip on him..so this gets way more interesting to me!
 
  • #657
Continued, two more cases


State of Indiana vs. Paul A. Etter
79E02-8810-IF-006742


Court
Tippecanoe County Court 2
Case Type
IF - Infraction
Filed
02/22/1989
Status
02/23/1989, Decided
Charges
INFRACTIONS
Parties
State of Indiana, Etter
Filed
02/22/1989
State V. Paul Etter
CDC4-86/602


Court
Delaware Circuit Court 5
Case Type
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Filed
06/16/1986
Status
11/17/1986, Decided
Charges
OPERATING A VEHICLE WHILE INTOXICATED, OPERATING PER SE, CRIMINAL RECKLESSNESS, RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT
Parties
State of Indiana, Etter
Attorneys
Gothard


[URL='http://www.in.gov/judiciary/3681.htm']

[/URL]
 
  • #658
These were rantings of an alcoholic with mental problems IMO. His musings on mythical beings and the devil were an indication of this I think. I wonder if he had any STD's which could have affected him in that way? Left untreated they can be serious. I dread to think what he has been up to over the years and think he could very well be responsible for many other crimes. Can someone post links to his SM?
I don’t want to get in trouble here as I want to keep this thread open but his SM account is very easy to find. And there is very little to it.
 
  • #659
As questions are being asked about 1985 I have C/P below the oldest charge on that list which shows his address in 1986

Case Summary

State V. Paul Etter
Case Number CDC4-86/602
Court Delaware Circuit Court 5
Type CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Filed 06/16/1986
Status 11/17/1986 , Decided
Reference
Legacy System Number
D486CM602
Parties to the Case
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Defendant Etter, Paul A
Address


437 North 900E
Lafayette, IN 47905
Attorney


James Arthur Gothard
#723179, Retained
P. O. Box 469
Lafayette, IN 47902-0469
765-742-9066(W)
State Plaintiff State of Indiana
Charges
Show all charge details
01 06/14/1986 OPERATING A VEHICLE WHILE INTOXICATED
02 06/14/1986 OPERATING PER SE
03 06/14/1986 CRIMINAL RECKLESSNESS
04 06/16/1986 RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT
Chronological Case Summary
11/17/1986
Judgment
Conversion
01. OPERATING A VEHICLE WHILE INTOXICATED
• Conversion Unknown
11/17/1986
Judgment
Conversion
02. OPERATING PER SE
• Conversion Unknown
11/17/1986
Judgment
Conversion
03. CRIMINAL RECKLESSNESS
• Conversion Unknown
11/17/1986
Judgment
Conversion
04. RESISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT
• Conversion Unknown
08/08/1997
Converted Event
Disposition code updated. (DISPOSED: GP ) (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 11/17/1986

08/08/1997
Converted Event
Praecipe For Record, by defendant, by counsel, filed. sd (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 08/07/1997

09/18/1997
Converted Event
Transcript of sentencing mailed to counsel for defendant, James A. Gothard. ch (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 09/18/1997

02/24/1998
Converted Event
Petition For Post-Conviction Relief filed by defendant, by counsel. ch (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 01/29/1998

02/24/1998
Converted Event
Comes now the Court and sets defendant's Petition For Post-Conviction Relief for hearing and argument on 03/24/98 at 1:30 p.m. (Betty Shelton Cole, Judge Pro Tempore) ch (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 02/18/1998

03/25/1998
Converted Event
State/by Elizabeth Costello. Defendant/by counsel. Cause called for hearing on defendant's Petition For Post Conviction Relief. The State of Indiana concedes and moves to dismiss cause herein. State to file written motion and order. sd (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 03/24/1998

05/11/1998
Converted Event
Motion To Dismiss filed by State of Indiana. Motion is approved, as per Order signed and filed. CLERK DIRECTED TO NOTIFY INDIANA STATE POLICE AND BUREAU OF MOTOR VEHICLES. (Betty Shelton Cole, Judge Pro Tempore) RJO ch (RJO? Y) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 05/04/1998

05/14/1998
Converted Event
ORDER OF DISMISSAL and CCS sent to ISP and one (1) SR-16 sent to BMV cz (RJO? N) | JTS Minute Entry Date: 05/14/1998

Please note his address 437 North 900E Lafayette, IN 47905 does not seem to have changed since 1986. This is the same address on his recent 2019 charges

I don't think that was his address in '86, it must have been updated at the entry in '98. His address on the other old charges are shown as 2353-6 Yeager Rd, Lafayette.
 
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