Found Deceased IN - Paul Etter wanted for Kidnapping, Tippecanoe County, 22 June 2019

  • #801
I am not certain that the tip regarding the Delphi case and PE was made before he went on the run. That tip could have come in the first day his picture was shown in relation to his last assault. I need to hear it from LE.
 
  • #802
Not only everything I stated before but this SPECIFIC accusation all stems from somebody SHOWING up to HIS house in the early morning hours (early morning hours)... what do I stress? Nothing good happens...

But I'm not going to toot my own horn..
Sorry, but I've never noticed you on this thread.

What have you stated before?

I don't really understand your posts to be honest.
 
  • #803
LE stated he was on their radar regarding the Delphi case before this recent accusation. I'm almost positive.

I need to find the site. He was under suspicion long ago.
 
  • #804
Not only everything I stated before but this SPECIFIC accusation all stems from somebody SHOWING up to HIS house in the early morning hours (early morning hours)... what do I stress? Nothing good happens...

But I'm not going to toot my own horn..
Hi BradB:) (Just getting my feelings out about PE, ok?) I "think" I understand part of what you are asking. I know NG Show, she always says, "Nothing good happens after midnight...." But, I can not forget the victim had a flat tire or two flat tires. Could have hit a curb, or object purposely placed in the road. So far, we only have the supposed FB ramblings of someone considering ending their life. I think even in the end, he could not take responsibility for his actions and had the audacity to blame it on alcohol. As reported, with DOUBLE CONFIRMATION....he assaulted that poor woman. She tried to get away, he got into a vehicle, followed her to another location and kidnapped her! ERRRGGGhhh. I'm feeling my BP rise even typing this out. (Mr. IQ's greatest lament is that I am "too sensitive." How can I not be? Life is precious.) It could have been anyone's daughter driving home late at night or going to the aid of a sick relative. Does he look like the "BG" in the video? Yeah, probably because of his nose and the "short neck"... but so do hundreds of other men I have seen in the area. I don't think anything the public said or LE did caused him to take his life...that was his choice. After his statements of wanting women with "green eyes" and O positive blood that he can identify by smell.......oh brother!!!! He may have nothing to do with other crime.... I don't know. But he scared the beejeebees out of me.
 
  • #805
  • #806
I'm going to quote somebody who responded to a video and it's quite simply one of the best statements regarding this and other cases.


One of the many many sad things about the Delphi case is it’s been like kicking over a rock and all these low life deviants have come scuttling out as possibilities.Person after dysfunctional person who has made life worse for others has emerged. Just an endless river of scum . What a world

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Ain't that the truth!! Thank you for posting that. I'm going to screenshot this one :)
 
  • #807
So, PE made a necklace out of an IUD from his rape victim. In his FB msgr posts he claimed his victim complained about boyfriends not wanting children, and PE told her she needed a new bf. Was he trying to get her pregnant taking the IUD?
 
  • #808
So, if he was reported before this incident, I wonder... was it just someone who thought he looked like him and was kind of creepy? Or was it called.in because of something he said or something someone specifically knew!

I have said since early on, there is a very good chance the bridge guy has already been named/ called in by someone. And they either havent worked on the lead enough or they have him as a suspect, without enough evidence to arrest yet. That seems to often be the case. A person called in a tip and it wasn't acted on or followed up enough.
 
  • #809
Not only everything I stated before but this SPECIFIC accusation all stems from somebody SHOWING up to HIS house in the early morning hours (early morning hours)... what do I stress? Nothing good happens...

But I'm not going to toot my own horn..
We don't victim blame here.
 
  • #810
Has anybody stopped to think he committed this recent act strictly on the fact he was already guilty in the Delphi murders based on looks?

2002 felony? Jesus. Long long time ago.
He has other charges since 2002, driving under the influence, driving while suspended, using fictitious reg numbers, this guy has been up to no good for quite some time IMO.
 
  • #811
I think in theory PE should have had his DNA taken by LE, in practice I'm not sure.

An Indiana law passed in July 2005 granted the Indiana State Police permission to make a DNA database for all convicted felons in Indiana’s 92 counties.

According to state law IC 10-13-6, Indiana may “establish a database of DNA identification records of convicted felons, crime scene specimens, unidentified missing persons and close biological relatives of missing persons.”

This means anyone convicted of a felony after July 2005 will have to submit his or her DNA for the database, said Tippecanoe County Chief Probation Officer Kipp Scott.

Previously, only people convicted of felonies involving violent crimes or burglaries were were required to register with the state’s DNA database, according to The Associated Press. But this new law includes nonviolent felons as well.

Last week, officials in Tippecanoe County started collecting DNA samples from convicted felons in the community. The Tippecanoe County Probation Department sent 1,503 letters to felons to let them know about the collection, which occurred Saturday at the Tippecanoe fairgrounds, according to the AP. Of the 1,503 felons who were sent letters, only 612 showed up to submit samples.

Despite less than half of the felons showing up, Scott said the turnout was pretty good.

State starts to collect DNA samples from convicted felons
 
  • #812
Evidence from man who killed himself in standoff shared with Delphi investigators

"“He’s not a priority,” Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said. “He’s being looked into and pursued, but that’s like all the others that we’ve been looking into all along.”

"Sgt. Kim Riley with Indiana State Police would only tell Eyewitness News that if a name has been given to them, they investigate them like all other names or tips they have received. Sgt. Riley would not confirm if Etter was among those they were investigating."

Reporters must be bombarding LE with interview request about this.
 
  • #813
  • #814
Ok, these are his 3 prior felony charges from 94, 97 and 2002. It is notable that the two from 94 and 97 were not finally decided until 2002 and 2003 respectively. The 2002 charge was decided in 2002. It is necessary to pull the cases up individually to follow them in mycase. The 94 and 97 ones went to appeals decided in 2002 and 2003, while the 2002 one was seemingly converted to a misdemeanour battery with the residential entry dismissed. I am no expert so this is my interpretation and I haven't followed all the appeal paperwork on the older cases. Second opinion needed therefore.
AJMO


State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter
79D05-0203-FD-000174
Court
Tippecanoe Superior Court 5
Case Type
FD - Class D Felony
Filed
03/25/2002
Status
06/17/2002, Decided
Charges
Residential Entry, Resisting Law Enforcement, Battery
Parties
State of Indiana, Etter
Attorneys
Gothard
Filed
03/25/2002


State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter
79E01-9707-DF-000277
Court
Tippecanoe County Court 1
Case Type
DF - CL D Felony or lesser charge
Filed
06/12/1997
Status
06/26/2003, Decided
Charges
D FELONY
Parties
State of Indiana, Etter
Attorneys
Gothard
Filed
06/12/1997


State of Indiana vs. Paul A Etter
79E01-9403-CF-000115
Court
Tippecanoe County Court 1
Case Type
CF - Criminal Felony
Filed
01/11/1994
Status
07/14/2003, Decided
Charges
C FELONY
Parties
State of Indiana, Etter
Attorneys
Gothard
Filed
01/11/1994
I'm no expert either, but this is how I read it:

2002
Charges:
1 Residential Entry (class D felony), 2 Resisting Law Enforcement (class A misdemeanor), 3 Battery (class B misdemeanor).
Verdict: Plead guilty to 1 Residential Entry (class D felony), 3 Battery (class A misdemeanor).
The defendant now enters a plea of Guilty to the charge of Domestic Battery as a Class A Misdemeanor. Court finds factual basis for plea of guilty and accepts plea agreement and enters judgment of conviction on the charge of Count I, RESIDENTIAL ENTRY as a Class D Felony and Count III, BATTERY as a Class A Misdemeanor.
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1997
Charges:
Class D felony (unspecified)
Verdict: Acquittal by a directed verdict.
Defense moves for directed verdict. The Court finds the supplemental notice of suspension dated November 30, 1995 does not contain nor have attached certification of mailing, State's Exhibit 2 contains record of mailing of "HTV notice" on November 29, 1995 the prior day and does not sufficiently identify or infer that the notice in question was mailed on November 29, 1995. Defendant's motion for directed verdict is granted and judgment of acquittal is entered thereon.
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1994
Charges:
Class C felony (unspecified)
Verdict: Plead guilty to the crime of Habitual Traffic Violator, as a Class A misdemeanor.
Appeal: Conviction overturned.
The court being duly advised now accepts the plea agreement and defendant's plea of guilty. The court now enters a judgment of conviction that defendant, Paul A. Etter, a male, 30 years of age, is guilty of the crime of Habitual Traffic Violator, as a Class A misdemeanor as charged in Count I of the information filed herein.
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In the present post-conviction proceedings, the evidence is undisputed that Etter proved that the notice provided by the BMV did not include notice of the right to seek judicial review.   Therefore, Etter has proved that his license was not validly suspended, an essential element of the crime.

[...]

Accordingly, I would hold that Etter has established his entitlement to post-conviction relief.
FindLaw's Court of Appeals of Indiana case and opinions.



Basically PE has one felony conviction on his record (I think).
 
  • #815
I'm no expert either, but this is how I read it:

2002
Charges:
1 Residential Entry (class D felony), 2 Resisting Law Enforcement (class A misdemeanor), 3 Battery (class B misdemeanor).
Verdict: Plead guilty to 1 Residential Entry (class D felony), 3 Battery (class A misdemeanor).


1997
Charges:
Class D felony (unspecified)
Verdict: Acquittal by a directed verdict.


1994
Charges:
Class C felony (unspecified)
Verdict: Plead guilty to the crime of Habitual Traffic Violator, as a Class A misdemeanor.
Appeal: Conviction overturned.





Basically PE has one felony conviction on his record (I think).
And that one is a Class D felony, without harm to another person, so I'm not sure how that gets treated in the courts as far as DNA collection. IMO, Carroll county would not have requested PE's DNA if they already had access to it.
 
  • #816
I'm just saying PE wasnt an angel but I don't think he was some big bad serial rapist either. I think once you get linked to a crime such as the Delphi one and people talk all the time, you eventually go insane because the chatter never stops. All for what? Because he looks similar?

I need proof he is responsible for the murders. Not talk. Not chatter.
 
  • #817
Just spending some time looking back through the beginning of this all with Etter. I'm surprised in his fb messages he didn't bring up how he smashed the girls Apple watch. He was happy to bring up that he "commanded" the officer with gun drawn to back off and he walked off...
 
  • #818
I'm just saying PE wasnt an angel but I don't think he was some big bad serial rapist either. I think once you get linked to a crime such as the Delphi one and people talk all the time, you eventually go insane because the chatter never stops. All for what? Because he looks similar?

I need proof he is responsible for the murders. Not talk. Not chatter.
I think that is what most of us are hoping for too, proof. He either is or he isn't responsible.
 
  • #819
I'm no expert either, but this is how I read it:

2002
Charges:
1 Residential Entry (class D felony), 2 Resisting Law Enforcement (class A misdemeanor), 3 Battery (class B misdemeanor).
Verdict: Plead guilty to 1 Residential Entry (class D felony), 3 Battery (class A misdemeanor).


1997
Charges:
Class D felony (unspecified)
Verdict: Acquittal by a directed verdict.


1994
Charges:
Class C felony (unspecified)
Verdict: Plead guilty to the crime of Habitual Traffic Violator, as a Class A misdemeanor.
Appeal: Conviction overturned.





Basically PE has one felony conviction on his record (I think).

Thanks for that analysis. Is Residential Entry classed as a burglary ?

I think it may be unlikely his DNA is in the system if it is not considered a burglary offence, however he was also convicted along with that felony of a violent misdemeanour (the domestic battery) so I guess that is why he was not supposed to have a firearm.

Well they certainly have his DNA now.
 
  • #820
I'm just saying PE wasnt an angel but I don't think he was some big bad serial rapist either. I think once you get linked to a crime such as the Delphi one and people talk all the time, you eventually go insane because the chatter never stops. All for what? Because he looks similar?

I need proof he is responsible for the murders. Not talk. Not chatter.

Why do you think he shot himself? I'm interested in your opinion on that.
 

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