Inconsistencies in DB's Story

[Whisperer]

I've only ever heard Deb say that Sam's daughter was in the house watching a movie with the boys. I don't ever remember hearing that she stayed the night. She was there earlier in the evening...but not all night imo

Oh brother. I never said she spent the night..

 

[Whisperer]

I still think if Lisa was in her crib as stated at 4:30 it was like a play pen time or change time...not sleep or nap time.

That wasn't explained to us. I guess DB forgot to tell us all about that...yeah..right. SB or her daughter never said she was playing in her crib. The implication was that she was sleeping. When one sees a baby they don't use the words "Apparently fine". They describe what they see.

It is my opinion that she thinks she saw a sleeping baby. To back up her assumption, she uses her dd to say she saw Lisa.

 

[katydid23]

Except for the People article which states that Samantha saw Lisa in her crib at 4:30 and she was apparently fine...(or close enough) I have never seen Samantha quoted as saying she saw or didn't see Lisa at all. She may very well have seen her at dinner and maybe even bathed her afterwards, but she hasn't said, so we don't know. It bothers me that she hasn't spoken about that night. It's odd!

I don't think so, because the whole point of the timeline was to discuss the various times that others saw Lisa. Why mention that she saw her alive and well at 4:30, but then NEVER mention seeing her again. They described dinnertime by listing the family members, with NO MENTION of Lisa being there.

And then they mention the sighting of Lisa by the 4 yr old. Wouldn't they include Samantha in that sighting if she saw her too?

I feel that the timeline laid out the various witness testimonies, and the LAST time samantha said she saw the baby was at 4:30 in her crib.

And again, if the 4 yr old was over to play with the boys, why would the baby girl have to be alone in her room? That makes no sense to me at all.

I mean she is in her crib while the kids are playing, and in her crib while the family eats dinner, then she is put to bed, with NO MORE CONTACT AT ALL, at 6;40?

 

[katydid23]

I still think if Lisa was in her crib as stated at 4:30 it was like a play pen time or change time...not sleep or nap time.

Why would she say she was 'apparently fine' if she was playing or being changed?

And why would a baby girl be all alone playing in her crib while the 4 yr old girl is over playing in the next room? That is a big red flag for me.

 

[SyraKelly]

KCPI-Can you tell us if SB lives-next door or across the street? TIA

 

[katydid23]

KCPI-Can you tell us if SB lives-next door or across the street? TIA

InDaMiddle told us once before but now I forget. I thought she said next door.

 

[SyraKelly]

InDaMiddle told us once before but now I forget. I thought she said next door.

Thanks Katy.. Yeah I thought so to,but I just thought I would double check with KC

 

[SyraKelly]

I really wish there was some movement in this case...its been real quite since the Phil show.

 

[katydid23]

But if SB lived next door, then how would she be able to tell if the lights were all on or off? Wouldn't she have to be across the street to see that?

 

[Sparklin]

That wasn't explained to us. I guess DB forgot to tell us all about that...yeah..right. SB or her daughter never said she was playing in her crib. The implication was that she was sleeping. When one sees a baby they don't use the words "Apparently fine". They describe what they see.

It is my opinion that she thinks she saw a sleeping baby. To back up her assumption, she uses her dd to say she saw Lisa.

In actuality ~ Samantha Brando has not said anything. It was a statement made by the magazine, however, that could have been related to them from Deb/Jeremy or presumed from a comment they made. I don't believe, although I could be wrong, that she was quoted as having said it. I believe the word 'apparently' was not from Samantha directly but from the writer of the article. ie: if I ask my mom how my dad is and she says he's fine - when I relay that to my brother, I'm going to say - I spoke to mom and apparently he's fine so don't worry. I don't see the word apparently as ominous either way..

 

[Sparklin]

I don't think so, because the whole point of the timeline was to discuss the various times that others saw Lisa. Why mention that she saw her alive and well at 4:30, but then NEVER mention seeing her again. They described dinnertime by listing the family members, with NO MENTION of Lisa being there.

And then they mention the sighting of Lisa by the 4 yr old. Wouldn't they include Samantha in that sighting if she saw her too?

I feel that the timeline laid out the various witness testimonies, and the LAST time samantha said she saw the baby was at 4:30 in her crib.

And again, if the 4 yr old was over to play with the boys, why would the baby girl have to be alone in her room? That makes no sense to me at all.

I mean she is in her crib while the kids are playing, and in her crib while the family eats dinner, then she is put to bed, with NO MORE CONTACT AT ALL, at 6;40?

But...who is THEY?? A source close to the family? Who?
Samantha has not spoken with msm so far as I have seen.

 

[SyraKelly]

I would have taken the James Brando convo over to that thread,but I don't see one!Just sayin..

 

[Whisperer]

How does this explain the boys? This means the boys never saw, heard or bothered to care where there baby sister was, for over 4 hours.

Yes, city. If they were told NOT to bother Lisa...and DB kept the door closed, I suppose they wouldn't know, would they?

 

[Whisperer]

In actuality ~ Samantha Brando has not said anything. It was a statement made by the magazine, however, that could have been related to them from Deb/Jeremy or presumed from a comment they made. I don't believe, although I could be wrong, that she was quoted as having said it. I believe the word 'apparently' was not from Samantha directly but from the writer of the article. ie: if I ask my mom how my dad is and she says he's fine - when I relay that to my brother, I'm going to say - I spoke to mom and apparently he's fine so don't worry. I don't see the word apparently as ominous either way..

SB said Lisa was APPARENTLY fine. This word was not put in there by the journalist. The word apparently weakens the statement. Journalists know that. The journalist is quoting.

I never implied it was ominous. I am implying that SB never saw lisa in the crib. Lisa was in that crib for a long time....longer than any fussy child would be. She was not at the dinner either or they would have been talking about that during this saga.

.....If there was a dinner.

 

[askfornina]

In actuality ~ Samantha Brando has not said anything. It was a statement made by the magazine, however, that could have been related to them from Deb/Jeremy or presumed from a comment they made. I don't believe, although I could be wrong, that she was quoted as having said it. I believe the word 'apparently' was not from Samantha directly but from the writer of the article. ie: if I ask my mom how my dad is and she says he's fine - when I relay that to my brother, I'm going to say - I spoke to mom and apparently he's fine so don't worry. I don't see the word apparently as ominous either way..

Can someone with the actual magazine tell me if this is the full article?

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20538450,00.html

I don't see the "apparently fine" statement in the People article, I was under the impression that phrase was from this NBC action news article:

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_...ls-timeline-of-day-and-night-of-disappearance

4:30 p.m.
-Neighbor checks in on Baby Lisa’s crib and finds her apparently fine.
-Deborah Bradley and her brother go to a supermarket to purchase baby food and a box of wine. Jeremy Irwin stayed home with children.

6:30 p.m.
-Neighbor returns and neighbor’s daughter sees Baby Lisa apparently safe.
-Deborah Bradley puts Lisa in crib.

 

[Whisperer]

It seems like we may be asked at some point to explain what "is" really means...

 

[katydid23]

But...who is THEY?? A source close to the family? Who?
Samantha has not spoken with msm so far as I have seen.

The Irwins were paid for that interview, so I suspect that they prepared the timeline. Why wouldn't they just say that Samantha also saw the baby at some point later that night? They specifically said that samantha saw her at 4:30, in her crib. Why say that if it is incorrect? Why not say she was seen at 10 pm when Samantha was leaving?That would be more helpful to them. But for some reason all they have verified is that samantha LAST SAW HER at 4:30, even though she was there herself until around 10 pm. Hinky, imo.

 

[Whisperer]

I think the only "Fussy" one in that house that day was Deborah Bradley.

 

[Whisperer]

The Irwins were paid for that interview, so I suspect that they prepared the timeline. Why wouldn't they just say that Samantha also saw the baby at some point later that night? They specifically said that samantha saw her at 4:30, in her crib. Why say that if it is incorrect? Why not say she was seen at 10 pm when Samantha was leaving?That would be more helpful to them. But for some reason all they have verified is that samantha LAST SAW HER at 4:30, even though she was there herself until around 10 pm. Hinky, imo.

It begs for an explanation ow why Lisa was there in a room by herself for two hours and what she was doing for those two hours. We know that DB said she put her down @ 6:40 but no one saw her. She was not part of dinner. Exactly how fussy was this precious child?

 

[Whisperer]

The Irwins were paid for that interview, so I suspect that they prepared the timeline. Why wouldn't they just say that Samantha also saw the baby at some point later that night? They specifically said that samantha saw her at 4:30, in her crib. Why say that if it is incorrect? Why not say she was seen at 10 pm when Samantha was leaving?That would be more helpful to them. But for some reason all they have verified is that samantha LAST SAW HER at 4:30, even though she was there herself until around 10 pm. Hinky, imo.

How much money have they made so far? we will never know.

I have no idea why DB says what she does...except she is very impulsive and blurts out stuff.
Somebody saw Lisa and somebody may have killed her....in the house.