Inconsistencies in DB's Story

[melissasmom]

BBM: JMO but not necessarily ... sometimes the SILENCE is actually DEAFENING ...

MOO ...

You would think in this day and age, when so many people like to "dish the dirt" on others, that if there were many unsavory things about DB/JI, that would have come out by now. Lots of people want to have their "15 minutes", yet no one has went to the media and given then any "scoops" on bad behavior by these parents in the past.

 

[highflyer]

Doesn't look like DB did much of anything when JI came home. I read she was rolling around on the floor. I can tell you most parents are not writhing on the floor at that moment. They leap into action. Writhing and crying on the floor may follow later but not in the immediate crisis. She doesn't place the call. She has Jeremy do it. She doesn't go out back, she doesn't run to any other neighbors house to ask questions. She is just being DB, dramatic and the victim. Still is.

No, have seen people act like that in a crisis.

 

[Sparklin]

not necessarily. I don't think they would have an accurate account of time. The first responders would get more truth from then immediately after the crime than the second interview which was videotaped, and watched by parents and attorneys...two months later. Interviewer HAD to be approved by Joe T and his team.

My guess is nothing came out of the second Interview. How could it? The boys were prepped and watched by Eagle eyes. And if anything was gleaned, Joe T. is there to fit whatever they said to a new and improved story.

The parents and attorneys were NOT present to witness the interview. They were in a totally separate room unable to hear/see the interview.

 

[iamnotagolem]

You would think in this day and age, when so many people like to "dish the dirt" on others, that if there were many unsavory things about DB/JI, that would have come out by now. Lots of people want to have their "15 minutes", yet no one has went to the media and given then any "scoops" on bad behavior by these parents in the past.

I don't think that would help the case at all. It seems like all the negative stuff about JI & DB has been found out, DB's drinking, leaving Lisa in bed for hours on end without even checking on her, JI not letting his family see his son to the extent that they took him to court for visitation rights. I think JI & DB have put enough negative information about themselves out there that no one else needs to point out much.

 

[Sparklin]

I'll tell you what's a coincidence1 LE taking the clothing that DB says Lisa was last wearing.

Really?? Have LE confirmed that? MSM?? I haven't seen that yet.

 

[jjenny]

You would think in this day and age, when so many people like to "dish the dirt" on others, that if there were many unsavory things about DB/JI, that would have come out by now. Lots of people want to have their "15 minutes", yet no one has went to the media and given then any "scoops" on bad behavior by these parents in the past.

Really? I've seen plenty of info come out about DB in the media.

 

[highflyer]

I can speak for myself. I can speak for those I know who have lost their child. Rolling around on the floor and not calling LE immediately is NOT the norm or the initial reaction. You jump into action when your child is hurt or missing. If Lisa was bleeding, would she just lay there on the floor screaming, crying? NO. no loving parent does that. They help their child.

It seems to be one excuse after another each time a new behavior is introduced.

Have a very vivid memory of seeing my baby sister floating face down in a hotel pool when I was ten..maybe eleven years old. The only sound was my Mother who found her, screaming, frozen at the side of the pool. My Mother loves my sister very much. It happens.

 

[melissasmom]

I am not trying to be snarky here-but this is not about dishing dirt-This is about a missing baby and what happened that night- Thats all that matters-I could careless about anything else-I want to know what happened that night in that house..

Um, I am not sure what this is directed at. A poster said earlier in this thread that DB had a "criminal mind" I responded with the fact that we do not know that, we don't have enough information on these parents to "profile" them. Then DGC stated maybe the SILENCE (I am assuming she means NOT hearing anything bad about them) may mean something. I think the silence DOES mean something. If anyone HAD bad things to say about these parents (their past), I bet we would have heard about it, because people like to "dish the dirt" I didn't say I wanted to hear the dirt.

 

[vlpate]

I have no idea what Mark Fuhrman said about this case, but his is definitely an opinion I can disregard. What other professional people have said they think the parents' are guilty of something?

Dr. Drew
“I think baby Lisa's parents are hiding something,” Dr. Drew stated...

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: Lawyer Says Parents Have ‘Something to Hide’
"Ziegler said a close look at the case would suggest that one of the family members had something to do with the child's disappearance."

Rod Wheeler - former homicide investigator

" “As a homicide investigator, it tells me that the Kansas City Police Department has been correct in focusing on these two people.”

Just to name a few....

 

[annalia]

Um, I am not sure what this is directed at. A poster said earlier in this thread that DB had a "criminal mind" I responded with the fact that we do not know that, we don't have enough information on these parents to "profile" them. Then DGC stated maybe the SILENCE (I am assuming she means NOT hearing anything bad about them) may mean something. I think the silence DOES mean something. If anyone HAD bad things to say about these parents (their past), I bet we would have heard about it, because people like to "dish the dirt" I didn't say I wanted to hear the dirt.

There was an interview with some of her former friends who were less than kind about DB's past. I know it's been posted somewhere in these threads, just don't know where.

Also that interview with some family members didn't really portray her in the best light. Again, it's here somewhere just not sure where

 

[katydid23]

She was being questioned by LE for a while first. She was kind of busy with that. Plus she was mad at him in the first place.

Exactly. She was being questioned by LE first. My next response would be to call my husband and roommate, even if he had moved out a few hours earlier, coincidentally right before Lisa disappeared. I am sure they only questioned her for long enough to check the premises and take a short statement, then they went looking. She had plenty of time to call and ask if he had seen anything or ever saw anyone poking around.

I would have put my need to find a missing baby ahead of any annoyance or anger I had towards my husband.

 

[melissasmom]

Really? I've seen plenty of info come out about DB in the media.

I havent seen hardly anything, except for the 2 friends who knew her when she was still with her husband. So I guess I missed something.

 

[vlpate]

Have a very vivid memory of seeing my baby sister floating face down in a hotel pool when I was ten..maybe eleven years old. The only sound was my Mother who found her, screaming, frozen at the side of the pool. My Mother loves my sister very much. It happens.

I'm sorry for your loss, how horrible. You make the point though, that is how a mother reacts when she knows her child is dead. If your mother thought she were alive and actively drowning, she probably would have gone into action mode.

IMO, DB was acting like the mother who has heard the news her child is dead.

 

[norest4thewicked]

You would think in this day and age, when so many people like to "dish the dirt" on others, that if there were many unsavory things about DB/JI, that would have come out by now. Lots of people want to have their "15 minutes", yet no one has went to the media and given then any "scoops" on bad behavior by these parents in the past.

Actually, there has been. There was the girl who came out to say that DB had "come on" to her husband. Then there was the past "friend" of DB's who said that DB was a "drama queen" and finally, the woman who said that DB had lived with her and used to take her car out driving when the woman went to bed. I'm sure there are more, but perhaps the media just doesn't find their stories that sensational now that everything has been so quiet.

 

[annalia]

Really?? Have LE confirmed that? MSM?? I haven't seen that yet.

I don't know about MSM but Ron Rugen stated;

"A source close to law enforcement tells me that cadaver dog in the Lisa Irwin missing baby case hit on a blanket, a toy, and her clothes last reported wearing. If true, that means the fluid that secretes from the body upon death were possibly on those items."

http://www.facebook.com/KansasCityPI/posts/10150436681582453

 

[In da Middle]

There was an interview with some of her former friends who were less than kind about DB's past. I know it's been posted somewhere in these threads, just don't know where.

Also that interview with some family members didn't really portray her in the best light. Again, it's here somewhere just not sure where

They had to go back nearly 10 years to get anybody to say anything bad against her.
Her own inlaws, her actual inlaws, had nothing bad to say about her.

 

[melissasmom]

There was an interview with some of her former friends who were less than kind about DB's past. I know it's been posted somewhere in these threads, just don't know where.

Also that interview with some family members didn't really portray her in the best light. Again, it's here somewhere just not sure where

Yes I saw that. 2 people who knew her several years ago. But they didnt even really say much, just that DB liked attention basically. And I did see the things from family members, but to me it didn't make her look bad. Nothing about her being a thief, a pathological liar, a drug addict, an abusive mother, etc. Not anything CLOSE to being able to say she has a criminal mind.

 

[In da Middle]

Exactly. She was being questioned by LE first. My next response would be to call my husband and roommate, even if he had moved out a few hours earlier, coincidentally right before Lisa disappeared. I am sure they only questioned her for long enough to check the premises and take a short statement, then they went looking. She had plenty of time to call and ask if he had seen anything or ever saw anyone poking around.

I would have put my need to find a missing baby ahead of any annoyance or anger I had towards my husband.

She very well might have called him as soon as she was done talking to LE. We don't know how long they were talking to her or what about.

 

[SyraKelly]

Um, I am not sure what this is directed at. A poster said earlier in this thread that DB had a "criminal mind" I responded with the fact that we do not know that, we don't have enough information on these parents to "profile" them. Then DGC stated maybe the SILENCE (I am assuming she means NOT hearing anything bad about them) may mean something. I think the silence DOES mean something. If anyone HAD bad things to say about these parents (their past), I bet we would have heard about it, because people like to "dish the dirt" I didn't say I wanted to hear the dirt.

And I was just saying in my post-I personally don't care about the dirt-I want to know what happened in that house.Not attacking you-just just saying how I feel personally.

 

[In da Middle]

Actually, there has been. There was the girl who came out to say that DB had "come on" to her husband. Then there was the past "friend" of DB's who said that DB was a "drama queen" and finally, the woman who said that DB had lived with her and used to take her car out driving when the woman went to bed. I'm sure there are more, but perhaps the media just doesn't find their stories that sensational now that everything has been so quiet.

And they had to go back how long to get this info?? Nobody in the present has had anything bad to say about her. I am sure any of us would have somebody say something against us going back that far.