Inconsistencies in DB's Story

[jjenny]

The Enquirer story I disregard. This same person gave an interview to MSM and said nothing of the sort, so that doesn't mean much to me. Being a drama queen, while irritating to many, is not criminal. The car thing is a new one to me.
But I still don't see anything horrific. And I would bet if some people went to the media with "juicy" stories about DB and criminal behavior they would be all over it. (as long as they could VERIFY it)
Now I am not saying that she dose NOT have some type of personality disorder, or criminal thinking, what have you. I just don't see any evidence of it from what we know.

Apparently "unsavory" is in the eye of the beholder. She is still legally married to one man, while living with another. She defends having her "adult time" and claims it has nothing to do with her child missing, even though presumably due to being drunk she wasn't able to pay attention to what was going on (not even remembering if she checked on her child or not before going to bed).

 

[norest4thewicked]

BBM, that's the point I was trying to make. Thanks for saying it more smartly.

Yes, I got that out of what you were saying. I don't think I said it any smarter. People sometimes just prefer to not really read what is being said. I do that myself sometimes. It seems as if there are a lot of excuses as to DB's actions. What excuse is there for DB being a BAD mom that night and possibly others?

 

[jjenny]

I did see this. Is there something "bad" about DB in this story?

I think its pretty simple. Her legal husband, who could presumably be considered a legal father of the baby (even though he is not biologically related, he is legally married to DB, and thus could be considered a legal father) doesn't even know that she had this child.

 

[cityslick]

Just to reiterate...and this is my personal opinion...leaving a sick child alone and not checking on them for hours while you are sitting outside getting drunk (to whatever degree) is, to me, BAD. Sorry...I just feel that way. I am not a prude by any means, but I also raised five children and I can tell you that I never did this and never would. So, I don't need to hear from any past friends or relatives to tell me that she was not being a good mom that night and, the opposite of good is bad.

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't think she was neglectful that night, but neglect does not always equal murder.

 

[SyraKelly]

I think if DB or JI were in the habit of assaulting people they'd have been arrested and that would be in court documents for easy finding. If they were beating their kids, how would anyone outside the family know? Being a drug addict? Yup makes a pretty poor parent, and yes I agree if someone came forward and said they were drug addicts it would be worse than finding out that they neglected the kids for hours on end while sitting outside getting drunk. Stealing & embezzling? I still think getting drunk and neglecting your kids is worse.

As far as it being a one time instance, that's not the impression I've had of DB's drinking. I thought she said in an interview that she drank 3+ times a week. She was in the habit of drinking, which makes for an irresponsible parent.

If friends or relatives were coming forth with dirt about DB & JI, I wouldn't think they'd be revealing criminal activity, I guess I must have misunderstood what you were saying earlier. I thought you were referring more to just gossipy dirt.

For some reason I can't quote-but anyway-your last line referring to gossipy stuff is what I was trying to say earlier in my post--Thanks

 

[In da Middle]

I think its pretty simple. Her legal husband, who could presumably be considered a legal father of the baby (even though he is not biologically related, he is legally married to DB, and thus could be considered a legal father) doesn't even know that she had this child.

I would think this would be a worse statement for him as her. If he had no idea that she was even pregnant, it means that he hasn't even seen or cared for his own son. At least Jeremy was taking care of him.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't think she was neglectful that night, but neglect does not always equal murder.

I can't speak for anyone else, but that wasn't the point I was getting at. It was mentioned that no one had come forward to say bad things about DB or JI. DB being drunk & neglectful is enough bad, what did anyone need to come forward to say?

 

[melissasmom]

Okay then. If you want to disregard everything that you have heard or read or what others tell you, that's absolutely your right. And, I never said anything "horrific" was in any of these reports. I think the fact that DB was drinking for hours while she had a sick baby inside and then got blacked out drunk (according to her) was enough for me personally to see a lot of "horrific." I don't have to hear it from anyone from her past.

As far as disregarding? Yes, I disregard the Enquirer, Its a tabloid, thats pays people for stories. Many times MADE UP stories.

But to me, that is a HUGE leap. She got drunk while she was the only adult around. Was it dumb? Yes. Does that mean she is a horrble person who would cover up a baby's death? No.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the world has done something idiotic in their life. Yes, there are degrees of idiocy but we are human, which means we are infallible. Some people do dumb things on a regular basis. Does it mean they are criminal, or evil? No, it means they may be prone to bad judgement.

My father was an alcoholic. He was drunk probably at least 50% of the time that I can remember from my childhood. While we were in his care. My father is the nicest man you could ever know. He wouldn't hurt anyone, ever. He certainly wouldn't try to cover up the death of a child. But I guess he is "horrific" from your point of view.

You have your moral standards, I have mine. We shall just disagree.

 

[melissasmom]

I can't speak for anyone else, but that wasn't the point I was getting at. It was mentioned that no one had come forward to say bad things about DB or JI. DB being drunk & neglectful is enough bad, what did anyone need to come forward to say?

I am referring to a "pattern" of bad behavior.

 

[cityslick]

I think its pretty simple. Her legal husband, who could presumably be considered a legal father of the baby (even though he is not biologically related, he is legally married to DB, and thus could be considered a legal father) doesn't even know that she had this child.

How much contact did he have with her the past 3 years? It sounds like they both decided to live apart without filing divorce paperwork. Was he all broke up when he found out about BL?

Her 'adultery ' is being used against her when they probably both mutually agreed to it.

 

[highflyer]

So sorry for your loss.

I remember coming home from school for lunch and finding my mother on the floor crying just moments after her hearing the news President Kennedy was assinated. My family is canadian, so I could only imagine had it been one of her own children who had been abducted. Heck when my oldest brother broke his collar bone in a skating accident she was all tears and wringing her hands.

Thank you for your kindness. She is alive, but what a memory. It's funny too to think that I'd never been in the deep end of a pool before and jumped in like a moron with my sister right behind me and we flailed over to our baby sister. Forgot we didn't swim. Duh. But people do all kinds of bizarre things in a crisis.

 

[vlpate]

The Enquirer story I disregard. This same person gave an interview to MSM and said nothing of the sort, so that doesn't mean much to me. Being a drama queen, while irritating to many, is not criminal. The car thing is a new one to me.
But I still don't see anything horrific. And I would bet if some people went to the media with "juicy" stories about DB and criminal behavior they would be all over it. (as long as they could VERIFY it)
Now I am not saying that she dose NOT have some type of personality disorder, or criminal thinking, what have you. I just don't see any evidence of it from what we know.

BEM:
She lied to Police about the timeline - a crime.

She was drunk and passed out while being the sole care-giver for three small children, one of which she is, technically, a babysitter for. An arrestable offense.

Police: Man got drunk while babysitting
"Wilson allegedly told police, "It isn't a crime to drink in your home." Officers disagreed and charged him with child abuse and assault on a female."

She is living with and having children with a man other than her husband and likely still collecting her husband's military benefits and using the tax breaks afforded a "military couple" with children. I can safely say the IRS would be interested in this oversight. Of course her husband is ok with it, he benefits as well.

I don't understand why she hasn't been arrested for being drunk while taking care of those children. I guess she would have had to have told them right away so they could prove it in a court of law. She forgot.

 

[jjenny]

How much contact did he have with her the past 3 years? It sounds like they both decided to live apart without filing divorce paperwork. Was he all broke up when he found out about BL?

Her 'adultery ' is being used against her when they probably both mutually agreed to it.

Doesn't matter how much contact he had. He is the legal husband. There was a case recently where a woman died and her child was given to her legal husband, a sex offender, even though he was not the bio father of the child, because he is the legal father. DB's legal husband didn't even know she had a child who presumably could be considered his legal child. A circumstances could potentially arise where being a legal father could become important, and the legal husband doesn't even know anything about it.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Why didn't they just get divorced?

If it was lack of money, why didn't DB get a job?

 

[vlpate]

Thank you for your kindness. She is alive, but what a memory. It's funny too to think that I'd never been in the deep end of a pool before and jumped in like a moron with my sister right behind me and we flailed over to our baby sister. Forgot we didn't swim. Duh. But people do all kinds of bizarre things in a crisis.

Holy cow - well thank God she is still alive! Your poor mother ... were any of you ever allowed in a pool again?

I stand by what I wrote though, and maybe your mom would have done things differently had you all not been there. Who knows, but more times than not, a mothers instincts kick in and they move mountains (cars too), to save their children. DB didn't even want to look in the backyard - another crazy quote. Why would Lisa being dead be the first thought? Why not wandering around, lost, having gone out the open back door where the kitty came in? Ok, I totally made the last part up....

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Doesn't matter how much contact he had. He is the legal husband. There was a case recently where a woman died and her child was given to her legal husband, a sex offender, even though he was not the bio father of the child, because he is the legal father. DB's legal husband didn't even know she had a child who presumably could be considered his legal child.

BBM: IF baby Lisa was considered Mr. Bradley's legal child, wouldn't the BC have her with the same last name as him? I'm not familiar with all the legalities on this, but it seems to me if she was legally his she would legally have his last name. NO?

 

[iamnotagolem]

BBM: IF baby Lisa was considered Mr. Bradley's legal child, wouldn't the BC have her with the same last name as him? I'm not familiar with all the legalities on this, but it seems to me if she was legally his she would legally have his last name. NO?

I believe you can give your kid any last name you want. When filling out the birth cert you just put the name you want for your child.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I believe you can give your kid any last name you want. When filling out the birth cert you just put the name you want for your child.

Are we allowed to slueth the BC to see who is named as father?

 

[vlpate]

Why didn't they just get divorced?

If it was lack of money, why didn't DB get a job?

It's ridiculous to say they couldn't afford it. Number one, an uncontested divorce is cheap. Number two: He would have been making good money being deployed, enough to divorce DB. Number three - they both benefit by staying married.

 

[jjenny]

BBM: IF baby Lisa was considered Mr. Bradley's legal child, wouldn't the BC have her with the same last name as him? I'm not familiar with all the legalities on this, but it seems to me if she was legally his she would legally have his last name. NO?

I am not sure it matters. Recently a sex offender got custody of the child not related to him, and I am pretty sure he wasn't on the birth certificate as the father, but he was the legal father as he was married to the mother.