Interesting ...

[tipper]

I used to think this was a matter of dispute, but an old newspaper article revealed that it must be true: as part of a special promotional event, Hi-Tec created a specific children's boot, with compasses attached to the laces. I used to wonder, why on earth would anyone even contemplate putting compasses on the laces, when there is no practical reason for a hiker to want to remove their shoes in order to look at the compass? It becomes clear that the compasses were simply decorative and were not meant for ordinary practical use, and were also not meant to be used by real adult hikers. Here is that article, from July 29, 1991. (One more note is that while the article is from 1991, the shoe was not released at that time. It was not released until much later in the year, well after retailers had had time to place their orders based on customer interest in the promotional materials, and late enough for Burke and family to have moved from Georgia to Colorado as they did in 1991):

Hi-Tec Sports will launch hikers promo.

MODESTO, Calif. - Hi-Tec Sports USA will step up the marketing of its new children's outdoor hiking boot with an incentive campaign centered around the 500th anniversary of Columbus' voyage to the New World.

The company plans to offer posters, stickers and other amenities as part of a Navigators' Club that children can join when they purchase an item in the new Navigators' series.

Hi-Tec unveiled an outdoor boot called the Columbus as part of the series. The shoe features a compass tied to the laces. It comes in mochaspruce and navy, priced to retail at $44.95.

Hi-Tec will coordinate the club membership in Modesto and will send promotional posters with new orders. Details of the promotion will be offered to children in product boxes.

David Pompel, marketing manager, said he expects the promotion to spur children's sales. He reported company-wide sales for Hi-Tec should grow by 60 percent this year.

"When the kids get something in the box, they get excited," he said. Pompel added that Hi-Tec's rugged outdoor look is growing more popular as children focus on the environment.

"We're getting into department stores where the athletic look is dying. We try to make ties to positive values like recycling and the environment."

So how long did this promo go on? Burke would have been what 4? 5? years old in 1991? I'll guarantee you shoes bought in 1991 didn't fit in 1996 or even '95, '94, or '93.

 

[why_nutt]

I wonder why Beuf soon afterward left the pediatric business and went back to being a rocket scientist?

No, you are wrong on that. Beuf is still a licensed physician, in fact he just renewed his license last month on June 1st.

 

[tipper]

One less thing to wonder about BC.

As of July 6, 2005:

http://thepediatriccenter.net/beuf.html
Dr. Francesco Beuf Dr. Beuf was raised on his family's ranch in Wyoming. He received a degree in Mechanical Engineering from Cal Tech in 1955, then worked for one year at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey. In 1956 he accepted an offer by General Electric's new Missile and Space Division in Philadelphia, where he was involved in design of missiles satellites, Mars exploration probes, and, for his last four years, was manager of the Space Division's International Operations, a $30,000,000 enterprise.

In 1972, he took a leave of absence from GE to attend Temple University's School of Medicine, followed by internship and residency at the University of Pennsylvania Children's Hospital. For the next two years he was director of the intensive care nursery at the Byrn Mawr Hospital. He then returned to his home town in Wyoming where he practiced general pediatrics, served as Chief of Staff at Sheridan County Memorial Hospital and was appointed by the Governor to the Wyoming Certificate of Need Board and Early Intervention Council.

In 1990, Dr. Beuf moved to Boulder, admitting patients to Boulder Community and Avista hospitals. In addition to his general pediatric work, Dr. Beuf enjoys teaching students at the CU Medical School. His particular interests are in the fields of Asthma/Allergy and Neonatology. He is board certified in Pediatrics, is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, a member of the Colorado and Boulder County Medical Societies, and has been awarded the American Medical Association's Physician's Recognition Award with Commendation for Self-Directed Learning. His articles have appeared in national journals in the fields of medicine and interplanetary exploration and in sports car magazines.

He is married to the artist, Penni Pearson, and has three children, two step-children and three grandchildren. His outside interests include biking, skiing, racing his sports car, exploring Boulder and Denver restaurants with Penni, and trying to stay ahead of the deer and the weeds which are competing for the garden.

 

[Zman]

to people who keep saying there is no evidence of previous abuse, haven't you read the autopsy report?


From the Autopsy report:

“Vaginal Mucosa: All of the sections contain vascular congestion and focal interstitial chronic inflammation.”



'chronic' - continuing for a long time, constantly recurring

Well I hate to put any faith in this autopsy report but that statement above does not prove sexual abuse.

Chronic also means ........always present or encountered.

 

[tipper]

to people who keep saying there is no evidence of previous abuse, haven't you read the autopsy report?


From the Autopsy report:

“Vaginal Mucosa: All of the sections contain vascular congestion and focal interstitial chronic inflammation.”



'chronic' - continuing for a long time, constantly recurring

We have read the autopsy and we've also read the myriad of reports saying you can have chronic inflamation from not wiping well (which we know she didn't do) and as a reaction to bubble bath and other irritants. If you read articles discussing diagnoses of sexual abuse in children they caution about jumping to conclusions based solely on irritation of the vaginal area. In sum, based on her behavior and in the opinion of Beuf who examined her for vaginal irritation (and suggested cutting out the bubbles in her bath) JonBenet showed no symptoms of being a sexually abused child.

 

[duffy]

Yes, Dr. Francesac Beuf, who was also a close friend of the family, was that pediatrician. Beuf never examined JonBenet internally, but made his comments based only on external examination and the behaviors he could see.

And it was Beuf who took that walk with Mike Bynum and John Ramsey while at the Fernie's house, when, IMO, the coverup was made a done deal.

I wonder why Beuf soon afterward left the pediatric business and went back to being a rocket scientist?

Actually according to the docs on A Candy Rose site beuf did do a couple of vaginal exams on JonBenet. Personally I think it is weird to have a vaginal exam on a then 5 year old.

I do suspect this doctor to be in some sort of collusion. Not necessarily paid off but one good ole joe to another good ole patsy/j.r.

What I really want to know is what happened with the school nurse. No one seems to know anything about that.

 

[tipper]

Where would you have him look on a child presenting with those symptoms? He didn't do a full-up pelvic exam with a speculum. There are at least two recommended position for doing vaginal examinations of children. One is called the 'frog-position" I can't remember the name of the other. Neither is traumatic or "weird."

http://jfjbr.tripod.com/truth/bynum.html
SAWYER: But what about those reports that JonBenet's pediatrician, Dr Beuf, saw JonBenet 30 times in three years?

BEUF: Before your call, I sat down with her chart and counted. It was 27 times.

SAWYER: This is the first time Dr Beuf has gone over his records publicly.

And is that unusual to see a child that many times?

BEUF: Not with the kinds of problems which this child had. The majority of them were for sinus infections and for colds.

SAWYER: And by majority you mean?

BEUF: Probably 20 of the lot. I counted three in which she'd complained of some pain in urination. And the rest of them were cold, strep throats, sinus infections.

SAWYER: So many he said, there was some concern about asthma.

How many times did you give her a vaginal examination?

BEUF: Well, it was five or six times in that three year period.

SAWYER: We asked him to specifically review all notes that might pertain. He agreed, citing the frenzy of uninformed speculation. Be warned, these are a doctor's clinical notes about a young patient.

September 1993 a call about vaginal redness, possibly associated with recent diarrhea.

April 1994 a visit about a problem perhaps related to the use of bubble bath, which can be an irritant.

October 1994 a routine physical. No problems noted, though some indication of occasional bedwetting. Dr Beuf says 20 percent to 25 percent of children that age wet the bed.

March 1995 abdominal pain and fever. Tests and exam showed no problem.

August 1996another routine physical with a vaginal exam. The doctor said everything checked out as normal. We asked what he made of this number of complaints?

Would that be unusual?

BEUF: For a child that age, certainly not. They don't wipe themselves very well after they urinate. And it's something which usually is curable by having them take plain water baths or learning to wipe better. But if you have 4yo kids, you know how hard that is. The amount of vaginitis which I saw on the child was totally consistent with little girls her age.

SAWYER: If there had been an abrasion involving the hymen, you would have seen it?

BEUF: Probably. I can't say absolutely for sure because you don't do a speculum exam on a child that young at least unless it's under anesthesia.

SAWYER: Did you see in any of these examinations any sign of possible sexual abuse?

BEUF: No, and I certainly would have reported it to the social service people if I had. That's something that all of us in pediatrics are very acutely aware of.

SAWYER: And some other notes. Dr Beuf says he last saw JonBenet Ramsey in November 1996, and that was a checkup for a sinus infection. A couple of other things. Dr Beuf says he has turned in people he has suspected of physical and sexual abuse in his career, and that he not only looks for physical evidence, but personality changes in the children involved. And he says he saw none of that with JonBenet Ramsey. And PrimeTime consulted other pediatric experts about JonBenet's records, and they agreed with Dr Beuf's analysis that there was nothing unusual there for a girl her age. When we come back, we will take you to the Ramsey home

 

[Toltec]

Tipper, there is no way Dr. Beuf could even suspect sexual abuse when JonBenet comes in for sinus problems. The norm is that the doctor listens to the lungs, looks in the mouth and checks the ears. Children may take off their top but never take off their pants unless they are infants.

Pediatricians check the vaginal area during checkups and when there are urinary problems. They briefly glance at the vagina and do not open up the labia unless there is redness and/or swelling. I know this because I worked as a Pediatric Nurse for years.

What I am trying to say is that JonBenet could have been suffering sexual abuse and the Doctor would not even have a clue.

 

[tipper]

Tipper, there is no way Dr. Beuf could even suspect sexual abuse when JonBenet comes in for sinus problems. The norm is that the doctor listens to the lungs, looks in the mouth and checks the ears. Children may take off their top but never take off their pants unless they are infants.

Pediatricians check the vaginal area during checkups and when there are urinary problems. They briefly glance at the vagina and do not open up the labia unless there is redness and/or swelling. I know this because I worked as a Pediatric Nurse for years.

What I am trying to say is that JonBenet could have been suffering sexual abuse and the Doctor would not even have a clue.

He checked the vaginal area in 93, 94 (twice), 95 and August 96. If there was abuse it was after August of 96. Since she had a history of vaginal irritation as documented in his records I think the most likely explanation for the 'vascular congestion and focal interstitial chronic inflammation' is poor hygene or a sensitivity to bubble baths. I believe the last time he saw her was in Nov 96 and there were no personality or other changes to suggest anything was wrong.

 

[why_nutt]

He checked the vaginal area in 93, 94 (twice), 95 and August 96. If there was abuse it was after August of 96. Since she had a history of vaginal irritation as documented in his records I think the most likely explanation for the 'vascular congestion and focal interstitial chronic inflammation' is poor hygene or a sensitivity to bubble baths. I believe the last time he saw her was in Nov 96 and there were no personality or other changes to suggest anything was wrong.

So basically a position you may logically say is in play is that Patsy was a defiant mother, who heard her pediatrician tell her to not let her daughter have bubble baths because it irritated JonBenet's skin, and yet who then went on to continue buying bubble bath solution and put it in her daughter's bath personally (as Patsy has said on the record, JonBenet never bathed by herself so if bubbles were involved Patsy had to put them there).

And just what reason would justify Patsy's continued use of bubble bath on JonBenet, once she has been warned to avoid this? Because the bubbles are so pretty and JonBenet looked so cute in the middle of them? This is what a good mother does, force skin irritations on her daughter's genitals because she feels like it?

 

[Toltec]

So basically a position you may logically say is in play is that Patsy was a defiant mother, who heard her pediatrician tell her to not let her daughter have bubble baths because it irritated JonBenet's skin, and yet who then went on to continue buying bubble bath solution and put it in her daughter's bath personally (as Patsy has said on the record, JonBenet never bathed by herself so if bubbles were involved Patsy had to put them there).

And just what reason would justify Patsy's continued use of bubble bath on JonBenet, once she has been warned to avoid this? Because the bubbles are so pretty and JonBenet looked so cute in the middle of them? This is what a good mother does, force skin irritations on her daughter's genitals because she feels like it?

Not only that...a 6-year old with a history of sinus problems has a room filled with heavy curtains, stuffed animals, a carpet, and piles of clothes...you know, dust collectors.

 

[tipper]

So basically a position you may logically say is in play is that Patsy was a defiant mother, who heard her pediatrician tell her to not let her daughter have bubble baths because it irritated JonBenet's skin, and yet who then went on to continue buying bubble bath solution and put it in her daughter's bath personally (as Patsy has said on the record, JonBenet never bathed by herself so if bubbles were involved Patsy had to put them there).

And just what reason would justify Patsy's continued use of bubble bath on JonBenet, once she has been warned to avoid this? Because the bubbles are so pretty and JonBenet looked so cute in the middle of them? This is what a good mother does, force skin irritations on her daughter's genitals because she feels like it?

I have no idea whether they were still using bubble bath. I've never read that Patsy failed to follow instructions from the pediatrician which leaves us with the irritation caused by not wiping well which we know was also a problem with JonBenet. In other words - poor hygene - as stated in my post.

 

[why_nutt]

So how long did this promo go on? Burke would have been what 4? 5? years old in 1991? I'll guarantee you shoes bought in 1991 didn't fit in 1996 or even '95, '94, or '93.

By definition, since the Hi-Tec boot-with-compass promotion was meant to celebrate the anniversary of Columbus's discovery of America, which is associated with the year 1492, the shoes would have been sold to retailers throughout the year of 1992. Since the shoes were not subject to a recall on December 31, 1992, we can reasonably figure that they were still available for purchase well into 1993.

I have photographic evidence showing that the supposed "mold" on the floor of the basement was capable of staying intact and completely unchanged for a period of at least two years. "Mold" does not grow rapidly and change its configuration over a period of several hours, and then mysteriously stop growing for two years. So, since a good case can be made that the substance the logo imprint was in was not mold but rather saponification (a soap-like substance created when badly-sealed concrete is exposed to water), we can also reasonably expect that that soap-like substance could have been present on the basement floor for years before JonBenet's murder. Put these various pieces of information together, and it could be that Burke stepped, with his mochaspruce or navy Hi-Tecs, on the basement floor in 1993, and the logo imprint stayed intact simply by happenstance, although the rest of the sole tread impression surrounding it was worn away by unknown circumstances.

(Another possibility for the lack of tread around the logo has just come to my notice. On many of their children's line of shoes, Hi-Tec puts the logo not just on the sole, but also on the side. A shoe on its side would obviously not leave a tread print.)

 

[tipper]

Not only that...a 6-year old with a history of sinus problems has a room filled with heavy curtains, stuffed animals, a carpet, and piles of clothes...you know, dust collectors.

Don't know what fabrics were used in her room. It looks like it might be chintz which has a fairly firm surface. Also don't know what was there for carpet or how often LHP vacuumed but it sounds like you suggesting a 'good parent' would have kept the child in an empty cell.

 

[why_nutt]

I have no idea whether they were still using bubble bath. I've never read that Patsy failed to follow instructions from the pediatrician which leaves us with the irritation caused by not wiping well which we know was also a problem with JonBenet. In other words - poor hygene - as stated in my post.

The problem with the "not wiping well" theory is that it fails to explain why the inside of JonBenet's vagina was irritated, while her labia, both majora and minora, were unirritated and undamaged in any way. Are you suggesting that JonBenet wiped urine up into her own vagina where it eroded a part of her vaginal wall (but only a very small part, and by coincidence the same part that intruder theorists insist was the same small part which is evidence of assault the night of December 25th), but she was careful to clean her labia thoroughly? I am open-minded enough to hear your theory as to how the labial structures, the most external of all the wiping area on a girl child's genitalia, stayed so clean despite improper wiping. Their cleanliness at the time of autopsy would tend to suggest to me a pretty good wiping technique.

 

[why_nutt]

Don't know what fabrics were used in her room. It looks like it might be chintz which has a fairly firm surface. Also don't know what was there for carpet or how often LHP vacuumed but it sounds like you suggesting a 'good parent' would have kept the child in an empty cell.

A child's bedroom does not need to be an "empty cell." The Lucile Pacard Children's Hospital has suggestions for how respiratory problems in children can be avoided while still making their environment comfortable and enjoyable. Let us see what some of these suggestions are, the very opposite of which were Patsy's choices, and ultimately her responsibility for her daughter's respiratory ills (diagnosed, by the way, by Beuf as possible asthma):

http://www.lpch.org/DiseaseHealthInfo/HealthLibrary/allergy/avdtrig.html

If possible, remove wall-to-wall carpeting. If not, vacuum the carpet frequently (at least twice a week). If your child has asthma, only vacuum when your child is away and will not return to the room for several hours after you have finished. Substitute multi-layered vacuum bags for regular single layer bags. Small, washable cotton rugs may be used if washed often. Wood, tile, or vinyl flooring without a rug is best, and they should be mopped at least weekly.

closets
Remove all stored toys, boxes, and other articles from closets. The closet should contain only clothing and should be as dust-free as the room. Keep all clothes in closets, never lying around the room.

Windows should be kept closed, especially in the summer.

Keep bedroom closet doors and bedroom doors closed as much as possible.

Paint walls or use washable wallpaper. Avoid pennants, pictures, wreaths, flower arrangements or other dust catchers on the walls.

Avoid heavy curtains and Venetian/mini blinds. Use window shades instead. If curtains are used, they should be washed monthly in hot water.

If your child has asthma, do not allow him/her to jump on furniture or beds nor wrestle on carpeted floors. Avoid fabric toys or stuffed animals. If your child has stuffed animals they should be machine washable and washed in hot water or placed in the freezer overnight at least weekly. Store toys in a closed toy chest.

Pets that have fur or feathers often cause allergy troubles. If your child is allergic to animal dander (the "skin" of the animal), it is best not to have pets and not to visit homes where these types of pets are kept.

Do not allow family and friends to smoke anywhere inside the house. Do not allow smoking in the car at any time. Smoke is very irritating in an enclosed area and its odor may be trapped in the car's upholstery for a long period of time and continue to trigger symptoms.

Your child should avoid things that have a strong smell such as cleaning products, perfumes, hair spray, tar, fresh paint, gasoline, insect sprays, and room deodorizers.

 

[Zman]

The problem with the "not wiping well" theory is that it fails to explain why the inside of JonBenet's vagina was irritated, while her labia, both majora and minora, were unirritated and undamaged in any way. Are you suggesting that JonBenet wiped urine up into her own vagina where it eroded a part of her vaginal wall (but only a very small part, and by coincidence the same part that intruder theorists insist was the same small part which is evidence of assault the night of December 25th), but she was careful to clean her labia thoroughly? I am open-minded enough to hear your theory as to how the labial structures, the most external of all the wiping area on a girl child's genitalia, stayed so clean despite improper wiping. Their cleanliness at the time of autopsy would tend to suggest to me a pretty good wiping technique.

How do you know so much about the state of JBR's genitalia?

 

[capps]

Burke's voice on the final four seconds of the 911 tape can be heard using amateur audio enhancement. Burke's voice is definitely on the 911 tape and anyone who wants to hear it can hear it. I heard it.


Okay,I'll play this game ...

Are you sure it was Burke's voice ... not another 9 yr. old boy's voice?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Burke's voice on the final four seconds of the 911 tape can be heard using amateur audio enhancement. Burke's voice is definitely on the 911 tape and anyone who wants to hear it can hear it. I heard it.


Okay,I'll play this game ...

Are you sure it was Burke's voice ... not another 9 yr. old boy's voice?

I want to hear this 911 enhanced call for myself, any idea where I can find it online?

 

[BlueCrab]

Are you sure it was Burke's voice ... not another 9 yr. old boy's voice?

capps,

It had to be Burke's voice because he was the only young male in the house at 5:52 AM. By 6:00 AM the cops were there.

The amateur enhancement of the 911 tape by Voice of Reason can likely be found in the archives.