Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #81

[Softail]

As far as getting paid for jury duty, this knucklehead took it a little too far. The story was floating around several years ago. The dummy thought it was a good idea to bill the court for his time.


Judge threatens to jail man who sent jury-duty bill
http://www.texnews.com/1998/2002/texas/jury0908.html

 

[katiecoolady]

I've been dying to ask one of the court observors: Do you think Poquito is responsible for the "" question?

Hmmm no I don't think he cares that much at this point. Honestly it could have been a sincere question by one of the older fellas who didn't understand the term. Because that question was reviewed by all parties and still got in..someone took it seriously!

My grandma once went to a hair salon asking for "one of those blow jobs". Lol

 

[runningwater]

It is really weird in my case, 2 times the trials were canceled and the other two times I lived in different counties. It is not that I did not want to serve.

Can you serve on a trial if you have been a victim in a case that went to trial?

 

[Softail]

i would loooove it if a tape or transcript existed of this.

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To clarify, the Drew Peterson case they did it. Here is video of it:



[video=youtube;VW0qrm-YVz4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW0qrm-YVz4[/video]

 

[thefragile7393]

What is being on death row in Arizona like? I heard Scott Peterson is allowed FIVE hours outside every single day.

I didn't think SQ did five hours a day IIRC....5 a week maybe. But i coukd be wrong

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[DebinGA]

What is being on death row in Arizona like? I heard Scott Peterson is allowed FIVE hours outside every single day.

From the official AZ prison info site:


"All male and female inmates on Death Row are classified as maximum custody. All inmates are single cells which are equipped with a toilet, sink, bed and mattress. Each Death Row inmate has no contact with any other inmate. Out-of-cell time is limited to outdoor exercise in a secured area, two hours a day, three times a week, and a shower, three times a week. All meals are delivered by correction officers at the cell front. Limited non-contact visitation is available. Death Row inmates may place two ten minute telephone calls per week. Personal property is limited to hygiene items, two appliances, two books and writing materials, which can be purchased from the inmate commissary. Health care is provided at the Health Unit; medication is passed out at the cell front. Clergy contacts are provided at the cell." To the question "What size are the cells?" the answer is 12' by 7'.

 

[G&AMom]

We all believe Jodi is guilty. She has not admitted to guilt, only that she killed him in self defense. Her original plea was not guilty. That has not changed. If she were to plead guilty she would have gone before the judge only for sentencing. Jodi was entitled to a trial because of her plea of not guilty. That is exactly what she is getting within the courtroom. Outside the courtroom is where the circus is taking place. What is happening now is Jodi exercising her right to tell her side of the story. Problem is her attorney keeps repeating the same stories over and over because this is all they have. Defense is just trying to save her life. I believe they know she will be found guilty they just do not want to see her get the DP. Jodi does not admit to overkill. She admits only to shooting Travis and the stabbing was done while she was in a "fog". I guess she feels that makes her look less guilty.

Sometimes people feel the wheels of justice do not move fast enough. It's a process on both sides. We have to wait. It's the way the system works. jmo

BBM. I think it's very important to remember that Jodi is NOT claiming that she was in a fog when she killed him. She can't claim that: there's too much evidence to show she was thinking clearly when she tried to clean up afterwards, and so on. Her claim is that the fog descended AFTERWARDS, clouding her memories, not her behavior.

IMO that claim is ten times more ridiculous that saying she was in a fog when she killed him. Can't wait to see what prosecution experts have to say about retroactive amnesia.

Agree with everything you say, though.

 

[kscornfed]

Can you serve on a trial if you have been a victim in a case that went to trial?

i'm a rape survivor. it has kept me off every criminal case i've ever been eligible for (which is 3). i was dismissed 'for cause.' i would LIKE to serve as a juror on a case, but i have to divulge that info, and so far, i've never been chosen and have been told it's very unlikely i ever will be.

 

[tinkabella]

On June 5, 2008, West Jordan, Utah Police Officer, Michael Galieti, pulled Arias over, while she was in the rented vehicle, driving to a meeting with Burns. The front license plate of the car was missing and the rear plate was upside down. Arias attributed this to some kids at a Starbucks playing a trick on her. Burns helped Arias fix the license plate and Officer Galieti did not cite her for the infraction
Killing of Travis Alexander - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BBM
Doesn't this mean they must have had a screw driver in the rental car? I'm sure Burns didn't carry one with him to the meeting, and it isn't clear what part the officer played in flipping the plate. That hasn't been mentioned.....yet......right? Maybe that's another surprise Juan has for the jury.
As far as where Jodi parked her car at TA's house, I don't believe it was there. I didn't go back to research it, but I'm pretty sure the roommates were asked, and both said they didn't remember seeing another car.

I wondered about this as well. Did Ryan have a screwdriver conveniently in his car or did jodi supply him with the screwdriver to put the plates back on. I've always felt like she flipped the plates in hopes of being caught in another state which would be her "proof" along with her receipts that she was never in AZ. This was her first story and until evidence showed otherwise she stuck with it. I hope Juan asks this question. I wish there was a way to submit these question to the prosecutors office.
I'm sure that once he was found the roommates would remember seeing a strange car parked outside of the house or in the garage. The roommates would know Jodi's car but she didn't drive hers. I don't think she parked in the garage or close to the house. We know that she was "clean" before she left the house. She would have no problem walking to her car and no one would be suspicious of her.

 

[suspicious1]

That's what I've noticed in all her pre-trial interviews and testimony. No emotion when describing the most "horrific", "Mortal Terror", event in your life. There is NOTHING! I fill my husband in everynight about this case and when I repeat her testimony I am over the top animated in the descriptions of what she said happened during every attack, just like it was me experiencing it rather then her, i.e. hands to neck choking, climbing up shelves, lunging at me. That is one cold fish and it's not normal behavior. Only reaction she ever shows is when it's about her and all she has lost.
Another thing that has me furious and if I was the juror that asked this question, I would ask it again. She was asked to take the diagram of the bathroom on the screen and show them how the attack happened. She WOULD NOT touch that screen other than to show where she was when the attack started, otherwise, she talked with her hands and made motions on the table in front of her.
Anyway, off to listen to KCL interview that I missed..

ITA.

I noticed that too. It seemed to me like she was not able to use the diagram because she was LYING about the attack.

Did you also notice when asked to do the linebacker move....she hesitated to do that too. Juan had to keep telling her to just "SHOW US" without talking..

IMO, she is use to TALKING her way out of chit....

 

[perfectvirgo]

On June 5, 2008, West Jordan, Utah Police Officer, Michael Galieti, pulled Arias over, while she was in the rented vehicle, driving to a meeting with Burns. The front license plate of the car was missing and the rear plate was upside down. Arias attributed this to some kids at a Starbucks playing a trick on her. Burns helped Arias fix the license plate and Officer Galieti did not cite her for the infraction.

Doesn't this mean they must have had a screw driver in the rental car? I'm sure Burns didn't carry one with him to the meeting, and it isn't clear what part the officer played in flipping the plate. That hasn't been mentioned.....yet......right? Maybe that's another surprise Juan has for the jury. As far as where Jodi parked her car at TA's house, I don't believe it was there. I didn't go back to research it, but I'm pretty sure the roommates were asked, and both said they didn't remember seeing another car.

bbm How was the plate screwed back on? Doesn't this require the use of screws? Did the 'Skater Boys' leave them neatly beside the removed licence plate? JA has never mentioned this detail.

 

[KMouse]

The prolonged exposure to Jodi has shown the jury that, other than Travis, she had no actual friends/confidants who could have understood where her thoughts were taking her and intervened in time to stop her. She planned alone, and she acted alone. The three women on AZ death row had accomplices, and only one did the killing herself when the poison provided by her bf failed to do the job. I can see a juror or two rejecting the death penalty for her, because, rejected by Travis and all his Mesa friends, she was now alienated and alone in Yreka with only her festering, deadly thoughts.

JA is not a person who is capable of friendship. I have not heard from anybody that they were friends of hers as she was growing up, working in various restaurants, etc. She was always wrapped up in her boyfriends since the age of 15.

JA was rejected because in Travis' words she is a sociopath and a scammer. JA only used people. There were no friendships. I don't think that any jury members will have a problem sending her to death row. They'll "reject" her because she has proven herself to be inhuman and void of any proper emotion. She'll be alienated and alone in her cell. Who cares. Not I.

 

[kayice]

On June 5, 2008, West Jordan, Utah Police Officer, Michael Galieti, pulled Arias over, while she was in the rented vehicle, driving to a meeting with Burns. The front license plate of the car was missing and the rear plate was upside down. Arias attributed this to some kids at a Starbucks playing a trick on her. Burns helped Arias fix the license plate and Officer Galieti did not cite her for the infraction
Killing of Travis Alexander - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BBM
Doesn't this mean they must have had a screw driver in the rental car? I'm sure Burns didn't carry one with him to the meeting, and it isn't clear what part the officer played in flipping the plate. That hasn't been mentioned.....yet......right? Maybe that's another surprise Juan has for the jury.


As far as where Jodi parked her car at TA's house, I don't believe it was there. I didn't go back to research it, but I'm pretty sure the roommates were asked, and both said they didn't remember seeing another car.

Do you think the skaters would not have just let the screws fall to the ground, too? Not that I believe that story of hers anyway. I bet cops do carry a small toolbox of sort since they do help motorists at times. Did she unscrew the plate and leave the screws there? Jodi would need to leave the screws in place, skaters...meh, who cares?

 

[katiecoolady]

I wondered about this as well. Did Ryan have a screwdriver conveniently in his car or did jodi supply him with the screwdriver to put the plates back on. I've always felt like she flipped the plates in hopes of being caught in another state which would be her "proof" along with her receipts that she was never in AZ. This was her first story and until evidence showed otherwise she stuck with it. I hope Juan asks this question. I wish there was a way to submit these question to the prosecutors office.
I'm sure that once he was found the roommates would remember seeing a strange car parked outside of the house or in the garage. The roommates would know Jodi's car but she didn't drive hers. I don't think she parked in the garage or close to the house. We know that she was "clean" before she left the house. She would have no problem walking to her car and no one would be suspicious of her.

On that note I do think she had her "backpack" of murder supplies and that's all she brought in that house. Pajamas? Really Jodi? You put on your flannel pjs and went to sleep? No.

 

[G&AMom]

i don't know how it works where you live but where i live, grand jury duty is a choice. you don't have to serve on one. i've served on 2 myself. the judge who seats the grand jury gets a list of names and those people get letters asking them to be present on a certain day. the judge then selects 12 people from the list and that's the panel. for me, that meant 2 days a week for 3 months. harris county, tx has at least 2 and maybe 3 grand juries meeting on different days all year long because there are over 30,000 felonies filed here every year.

in the letter you get from the judge, it tells the dates of service required to and says if you don't want to serve, you can suggest someone else. you can even throw away the letter and not reply at all, which i've done a couple of times myself.

when you get a summons for jury duty, it's different. there aren't many exclusions in texas but there are some. but if you're chosen to be a juror on a case, then your employer has to pay you.

it's probably different where you live. just saying that's how it works where i live.

No, here you have to serve (Maryland suburbs of DC). He would have gotten out of it if he could, if for no other reason than if he's not working, he doesn't get paid. We have year-round grand juries as well. He heard one proposed murder indictment that he couldn't tell me about -- stupid grand jury secrecy rules! I figured out he'd heard it because it was in the paper.

 

[KMouse]

bbm How was the plate screwed back on? Doesn't this require the use of screws? Did the 'Skater Boys' leave them neatly beside the removed licence plate? JA has never mentioned this detail.

Oh please use your psychic abilty to send this question to the jury so they can put it in the basket.

 

[thefragile7393]

To clarify, the Drew Peterson case they did it. Here is video of it:



WGN Radio - Mock Trial - The People v. Drew Peterson - YouTube

looooove this!

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[kayice]

Excellent catch, BBM, Maryann and others, I might have missed. Sorry, I forgot to say that. great job!

 

[tinkabella]

ITA.

I noticed that too. It seemed to me like she was not able to use the diagram because she was LYING about the attack.

Did you also notice when asked to do the linebacker move....she hesitated to do that too. Juan had to keep telling her to just "SHOW US" without talking..

IMO, she is use to TALKING her way out of chit....

Yup! She didn't want to touch that screen for nothing. She pointed to one spot and started her puppet moves. I notice that when she doesn't want to be pinned down by an answer she starts being vague in her responses/ actions. If I had to demonstrate how someone lunged at me I wouldn't need several prompts before i show it.

 

[KMouse]

On that note I do think she had her "backpack" of murder supplies and that's all she brought in that house. Pajamas? Really Jodi? You put on your flannel pjs and went to sleep? No.

She could have initially parked it around the corner and then when she went to "leave" brought it into the garage knowing the roommate was gone to work.