Interview with Maya D at Lowell...

[LinasK]

I wonder if Angels Mother would feel the same way. It is one thing to hate Casey Anthony for your belief that she killed Caylee, but in my opinion, what Maya did is not excuseable based on that aforementioned hate. I think Angel was Mayas victim and should be treated with as much respect and dignity as Caylee. This is of course just my feeling in regards to that subject. As do the rest of us here, no disagreement, we are victim-friendly forum.

The order of events has been linked here time and time again. Maya was in jail because of a car jacking. Someone tipped LE off about her involvement in Angels murder. That's not what led to the murder charge, LE didn't put the tip together with her, she turned herself in when they didn't figure it out. She plea bargained her own sentence by testifying against her fellow gang members (whom I am sure trusted her and found her to be VERY believable themselves, as did the little girl (15 is little?) she strangled to death). I have no problem with her testifying against them. In that time she has also tried to appeal the Courts decision. This is not a poor naive repentent little girl in my opinion. She directly expressed remorse to her victim and her victims family and admitted it was a mistake made during her drug-filled gang years spent with the wrong crowd starting as a runaway at age 13.

There are many reasons for her to lie. First of all, she may very well be hoping for a kinder parole board when it is time. Outing Casey does nothing to help her with her own parole board! I also do not doubt her very close relationship with RA which is yet another reason to embellish. No where in the supplementaries did they say that Maya said that Casey used a chloroform, nor did she even suggest a rag, which I am sure she could have pronounced easily.

Could someone PLEASE link me to the documents/news stories that state that Maya confessed without having to, because LE didnt know who she was?

My responses are in red.

 

[LambChop]

The point is Maya is not on trial. She has been sentenced. Both victims are dead but Maya confessed, expresses her remorse for her crime and feels fortunate to have only gotten 30 years.

Death of a minor brought these two together, KC and Maya. That is where the similarity ends. But in Maya's statement to LE she brought to light KC letters. KC who knows better wrote letters. KC has no one but herself to blame. What Maya has to say is not as important as what KC has to say in those letters? Getting involved with drugs and gangs is bad news. So many of our young people's lives are wasted because they belong to gangs and end up dead by either being shot to death or the drugs. Drugs can make you do desperate things, unthinkable things.

I commend this young woman for realizing that she made a big mistake and owning up to it. She has been proven guilty in a court of law, she admitted her guilt.....how many people do that. Maya has my respect for coming forward on her own. I would never personally bash her for doing the right thing.

JMO

 

[LambChop]

I was born in this country, many, many moons ago and there are words I still have difficulty with the pronounciation of. I can tell you what the word means but unless someone reminds me...it escapes me. In particular....drugs. LOL

 

[magic-cat]

She did NOT "turn herself in". I truly wish this fallacy would not be repeated again and again as fact. LE went to her after they received a tip. This information has been linked in this thread. She is also a repeat offender, maybe different crimes, but repeat offender nonetheless. She strangled a 15 year odl girl while two men held her down by her arms!! Nothing about that makes her less of a killer then Casey if in fact Casey is guilty.

ETA: And Maya HAS been found guilty in a court of law, Casey is still "presumed innocent".

There ARE differences in murder just the same as there are differences in many crimes. A man kills his wife in the heat of the moment when he finds her in bed with another man, a bar fight breaks out and someone gets killed, a gang member murders another gang member, a mother kills her child. Although these ARE all murders they are not all the same.

Yes, Maya's crime is horrendous and she killed a 15 year old girl. They were fellow gang members, they were peers. They were involved in drugs. Maya was 17 years old. She ALSO was a refugee of WAR and a runaway at the age of 13. This is in NO way similar to what happened to Caylee Marie Anthony. She was a BABY, not a gang member.She did not CHOOSE a lifestyle which lead to her death. She was a BABY and her MOTHER murdered her in cold blood so she could go back to her party girl lifestyle. There is only one similarity in these cases, and that is, a human being is dead. Beyond that, they do not compare one to the other.

Maya DID turn herself in. She DID confess her crime and in the process of telling her story DID tell the entire story of those who were also involved and held this other girl down. If those guys had not assisted, this murder may not have happened. Although they did not do the actual choking, they are every bit as and perhaps even more responsible as Maya. Without them there, Angel might still be alive.

Maya is NOW helping other teens/children in an effort to attone in some way for the horrible and unforgivable thing that she did, as a 17 year old girl on drugs in a gang. She is not lying and saying she did nothing. She is facing her crime head on and cleansing her soul by TRUTH. Is this not what we WANT criminals to do? Do we not incarcerate them so they WILL be rehabilitated? Is that not one of the main goals OF our entire system, to rehabilitate criminals? :waitasec:

Once upon a time Maya was a despicable, horrible creature who had so little respect for human life that she took one. She was sentenced for her crime. She is serving her sentence. She is doing what she CAN from within those prison walls to change. She was judged and found guilty and sentenced to 30 years in prison. There is no changing this. And ALL inmates, unless there is a no possibility of parole, are hopeful of an early release for good behavior. It is how our system works. Someone CAN shave years off if they behave well while incarcerated. MOST cold blooded killers do not rehabilitate. Perhaps in this tragic case, one will. Perhaps it was the effects of being a refugee in a strange country and then a runaway and then a gang member and then a drug addict that lead this girl down this path. NOT SO KC ANTHONY.

KC has lived in a nice middle class home in the same neighborhood with the same parents her whole life. She has not seen the horrors of war up close, that might lead to emotional and mental instabilities. She is not in a strange country. She is not a runaway. She is not a gang member. She is "the girl next door" for all intents and purposes. She had a home where everything she and her child needed was provided. She was GIVEN a car. She had opportunity to attend college and do anything she wanted. What did she want? She wanted to be free. She wanted to NOT be held down and bound by a baby. She wanted rid of Caylee. So she got what she wanted. BUT...

she didn't want to be held accountable. She wanted to walk away scott free. She did not want to be punished. She just wanted to be left to go about her business. LUCKILY for CAYLEE, her victim, this is not how things work in this country. You cannot just say, as Susan Smith did, "A man stole my car and my kids", or as KC did, "The nanny took my baby" and NOT have that investigated. IF the nanny DID take your baby? Then you can GUARANTEE there will be some evidence of that. There was PLENTY of evidence in Mayas case. So where is all of the evidence of this nanny? There is no nanny. KC is the nanny. KC is the killer. KC must pay JUST LIKE MAYA. :banghead:

 

[2goldfish]

I was born in this country, many, many moons ago and there are words I still have difficulty with the pronounciation of. I can tell you what the word means but unless someone reminds me...it escapes me. In particular....drugs. LOL

I too am a native english speaker but the phrase "rear wheel drive" will not come out of my mouth :biglaugh:

 

[LambChop]

I too am a native english speaker but the phrase "rear wheel drive" will not come out of my mouth :biglaugh:

Too funny. I tried to say it myself. Can't..... Let's stick to "that thingy in the back".

 

[magic-cat]

Also, just for the record you know, I do not hate KC...I despise her.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Yes, Maya's crime is horrendous and she killed a 15 year old girl. They were fellow gang members, they were peers. They were involved in drugs. Maya was 17 years old. She ALSO was a refugee of WAR and a runaway at the age of 13. This is in NO way similar to what happened to Caylee Marie Anthony. She was a BABY, not a gang member.She did not CHOOSE a lifestyle which lead to her death. She was a BABY and her MOTHER murdered her in cold blood so she could go back to her party girl lifestyle. There is only one similarity in these cases, and that is, a human being is dead. Beyond that, they do not compare one to the other.

Respectfully snipped..

MagicCat, you entire post is right on, eloquently stated..:dance::dance:

The difference between Maya and KC is a heart, compassion and a conscience. MD stated the police had all the pieces of the puzzle, they didn't have the box. Her conscience had bothered her so much that she did indeed came clean. She was given a LDT to see if she was truthful or just covering for her BF. She took control of her situation, she didn't have a trial, she pleaded guilty to her actions. Had she gone to trial and lost she could have recieved the DP, instead they gave her a 30 year sentence where she sees this as a blessing. Both girls were in gangs, this was a gang war of sorts. As MD stated it could be me in that position and her victim doing time.

When MD was talking to Inmate Anthony, she saw her eyes were blank, we know the eyes are the windows to the soul, Inmate Anthony has a black soul and no conscience. She heard out of Inmate Anthony's own mouth how jealous she was of Caylee. Why her parents loved Caylee more than they loved her. How she felt she wasn't ready to be a mother, it was her mother who forced this upon her. MD kept saying, Caylee's a baby, a baby, you don't hurt your own child. Which is why she felt she had to stop befriending Inmate Anthony. I can't be friends with an evil person, basically is how she put it.

I believe MD is very credible. If she testifies against Inmate Anthony I do hope she holds up to the derrogatory tone of the defense attorney who will make it seem she's only a jailhouse snitch looking for time off..MD wants nothing for this, her 30 years is sweet compared to her life being taken from the DP sentence she avoided by taking responsiblity for her actions. That I give her kudos for. It's not what happens in the past that makes you who you are but what you do in the future. I think MD will be a productive member of society when she's paroled. I'd have the same respect for Inmate Anthony had she been truthful from the start...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[logicalgirl]

I was born in this country, many, many moons ago and there are words I still have difficulty with the pronounciation of. I can tell you what the word means but unless someone reminds me...it escapes me. In particular....drugs. LOL

You are right about that. Not sure what your food manufacturing rules are like in the States, but in Canada, all ingredients must be listed on the back of the outside packaging of any product.

Take any product and read off the ingredients - if English is your native tongue, the chances of correct pronounciation are pretty slim. Not only can I not tell you what they are, I can't say them either.

 

[logicalgirl]

Respectfully snipped..

MagicCat, you entire post is right on, eloquently stated..:dance::dance:

The difference between Maya and KC is a heart, compassion and a conscience. MD stated the police had all the pieces of the puzzle, they didn't have the box. Her conscience had bothered her so much that she did indeed came clean. She was given a LDT to see if she was truthful or just covering for her BF. She took control of her situation, she didn't have a trial, she pleaded guilty to her actions. Had she gone to trial and lost she could have recieved the DP, instead they gave her a 30 year sentence where she sees this as a blessing. Both girls were in gangs, this was a gang war of sorts. As MD stated it could be me in that position and her victim doing time.

When MD was talking to Inmate Anthony, she saw her eyes were blank, we know the eyes are the windows to the soul, Inmate Anthony has a black soul and no conscience. She heard out of Inmate Anthony's own mouth how jealous she was of Caylee. Why her parents loved Caylee more than they loved her. How she felt she wasn't ready to be a mother, it was her mother who forced this upon her. MD kept saying, Caylee's a baby, a baby, you don't hurt your own child. Which is why she felt she had to stop befriending Inmate Anthony. I can't be friends with an evil person, basically is how she put it.

I believe MD is very credible. If she testifies against Inmate Anthony I do hope she holds up to the derrogatory tone of the defense attorney who will make it seem she's only a jailhouse snitch looking for time off..MD wants nothing for this, her 30 years is sweet compared to her life being taken from the DP sentence she avoided by taking responsiblity for her actions. That I give her kudos for. It's not what happens in the past that makes you who you are but what you do in the future. I think MD will be a productive member of society when she's paroled. I'd have the same respect for Inmate Anthony had she been truthful from the start...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

Beautiful! For both you and Magic-Cat, these posts are worth more than hitting the thanks button, LivLaughLuv & Magic-Cat

 

[akashana]

Quite the opposite. She is now viewed as a "snitch" because this was made public. This could make it very hard for her in prision.

Well yes, to the prison population she will be a snitch and may have a hard time. But she would have a hard time anyway as she was a cop's wife, and she was already in PC, or AdSeg, or whatever they call it, at the jail before she came forth. But LE and parole boards might look favorably upon her down the road for what she attempted to do. That was the point I was making about credibility.

 

[logicalgirl]

Well yes, to the prison population she will be a snitch and may have a hard time. But she would have a hard time anyway as she was a cop's wife, and she was already in PC, or AdSeg, or whatever they call it, at the jail before she came forth. But LE and parole boards might look favorably upon her down the road for what she attempted to do. That was the point I was making about credibility.

Akashana, that was Robin who is the cop's wife, not Maya. Robin is the person Casey wrote the most letters back in forth to while Robin was in PC and after she was transferred to federal.

But Maya knows she will be labeled a snitch and chose to come forward anyhow.

 

[LambChop]

Unfortunately Angel was part of a gang. Gang's tend to look for violence. So why do we put up with them??? What happened to Angel was wrong but you can't repunish a convict when they are already serving time. If LE feels Maya is credible, then some of us will assume she may be. She is serving 30 years so her parole board is a long way off, especially in Flordia. Maya is in State Prison, RA is in Federal Prison so why would Maya embellish? What would be the point? They will never see each other again, at least for 30 years.

When RA was in jail in Orlando she also was under PC so being best buddies with Maya is a stretch. I would think.

People are confined in prison, get released and go on with their lives. Just because they are in prison does not mean they can't be truthful, that they are a bad person. Many of our posters here will tell you that. People do make mistakes but we should encourage forgiveness whenever someone admits their mistake and the fact that they are remorseful for the pain they have caused. There are people who have never been to prison who can't even do that. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Well yes, to the prison population she will be a snitch and may have a hard time. But she would have a hard time anyway as she was a cop's wife, and she was already in PC, or AdSeg, or whatever they call it, at the jail before she came forth. But LE and parole boards might look favorably upon her down the road for what she attempted to do. That was the point I was making about credibility.

Yes, I was referring to Maya. RA is a whole new ballgame because she is in Federal Prison. They could care less about KC. Feds are more interested in drug information. JMO

 

[akashana]

Oh, I see what you mean now. Maya according to some news reports is 6'2", altho her ID badge yesterday stated 5'10". Either way, she is a big ol' girl and gangster who killed somebody with her bare hands. I kind of think she could hold her own against most.

 

[beach]

Could someone PLEASE link me to the documents/news stories that state that Maya confessed without having to, because LE didnt know who she was?

--respectfully snipped

I see that LambChop & ZsaZsa have provided a couple of links. I realize those are more current and are basically Maya's testimony of how things happened. However, Belich is a pretty tough reporter and I feel confident she has more inside info in re. her prior crimes. Thanks too, to logicalgirl for jumping on the Google search! :blowkiss:


I would like to thank Woe.be.gone for this post in particular.

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In the Orlando Sentinel link Woe.be.gone provided (reposting again since I am quoting it)


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/keyword/jackie-curtis

There are a few articles in re. Maya's case, however if you will scroll about 1/2 way down and on the right side there is one titled "Jailed Orange teen admits she killed girl" -

The face of Jackie "Angel" Curtis haunted Maya Derkovic for the past nine months. Finally, the 18-year-old gang member and Orange County Jail inmate couldn't keep her secret. In an effort to find peace, she told a jailer and later detectives how she choked Angel, 15, while two fellow gang members held the victim's arms. Derkovic's story helped unravel a mystery that began Jan. 18 when Angel's badly decomposed body was found along the edge of a retention pond near Goldenrod Road. "What I did was terribly wrong," Derkovic told the Orlando Sentinel in an exclusive interview from jail.

The article is dated October 17, 2007.

HTH.


My apologies to my fellow posters for not reading back far enough to realize links had already been provided. :blushing:

eta: I just noticed Harmony2 linked it, also. Sheesh, what are we looking for then? :waitasec: I will back out of this thread gracefully now.

 

[heatherhope]

I finally listened to and watched Maya's interview. There were parts I was iffy on, but then she would say something totally sensible in the next sentence. What I found very compelling and scary was when Maya was talking about how cold Casey's eyes were, that she had an evil soul, she felt and showed no remorse, constantly looked at herself in the mirror and loved all the attention even if that attention was from other inmates.

There were no giggles, smiles or mistakes in how she spoke about it. Her face totally changed from a smile to serious and mean. She has no respect or feeling for Casey and I believe that Maya thinks Casey will end up in prison for a long time and Casey will not be comfortable in a real prison. Also about other inmates who just draw the line at child killers, add Casey's coldness, Maya just might be onto something. Casey will have a rude awakening and might head right into harm in prison.

I'm still processing the rest of the interview, but I'm leaning to believing her.

 

[logicalgirl]

I finally listened to and watched Maya's interview. There were parts I was iffy on, but then she would say something totally sensible in the next sentence. What I found very compelling and scary was when Maya was talking about how cold Casey's eyes were, that she had an evil soul, she felt and showed no remorse, constantly looked at herself in the mirror and loved all the attention even if that attention was from other inmates.

There were no giggles, smiles or mistakes in how she spoke about it. Her face totally changed from a smile to serious and mean. She has no respect or feeling for Casey and I believe that Maya thinks Casey will end up in prison for a long time and Casey will not be comfortable in a real prison. Also about other inmates who just draw the line at child killers, add Casey's coldness, Maya just might be onto something. Casey will have a rude awakening and might head right into harm in prison.

I'm still processing the rest of the interview, but I'm leaning to believing her.

I'm glad you had the courage and took the time to watch Maya's interview. I hope when processing what you felt and saw while watching it, you will keep in mind Maya's background. This girl was on the streets at 13, and bears a pimps tattoo on her throat, which implies she was a child prostitute. She ran with one of the toughest gangs, and was the "top girl". She was a gansta girl. And English is her second language. So a girl who did not have a "traditional" home life or education, who has lived much of what most of us would never care to see, who was charged with car-jacking and convicted of murder.

I was amazed at her calmness, the look of serenity on her face, and her straightforward answers. I expected to see some instinctual "shifting" or avoidance (I don't know how to explain it) bleeding through from her past life. How many of us can say we have completely erased the signs of our upbringing if it has been negative.

I don't believe this young woman could be such a magnificent actress.
Also, to the poster who made the comment that she's 5'10" and a big girl so would be able to protect herself against any attack in prison - my understanding is those attacks when fatal, are not from bare hands, are swift and unexpected, and involve the use of some sort of contraband article, fashioned to kill.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I'm glad you had the courage and took the time to watch Maya's interview. I hope when processing what you felt and saw while watching it, you will keep in mind Maya's background. This girl was on the streets at 13, and bears a pimps tattoo on her throat, which implies she was a child prostitute. She ran with one of the toughest gangs, and was the "top girl". She was a gansta girl. And English is her second language. So a girl who did not have a "traditional" home life or education, who has lived much of what most of us would never care to see, who was charged with car-jacking and convicted of murder.

I was amazed at her calmness, the look of serenity on her face, and her straightforward answers. I expected to see some instinctual "shifting" or avoidance (I don't know how to explain it) bleeding through from her past life. How many of us can say we have completely erased the signs of our upbringing if it has been negative.

I don't believe this young woman could be such a magnificent actress.
Also, to the poster who made the comment that she's 5'10" and a big girl so would be able to protect herself against any attack in prison - my understanding is those attacks when fatal, are not from bare hands, are swift and unexpected, and involve the use of some sort of contraband article, fashioned to kill.

Jeffrey Dahmer was over 6ft. That didn 't help him. When a perp is targeted they will find a way to exact vengeance.

 

[Astraea]

Maya was already known as a snitch before this situation with Casey. I would think this is why she was in PC. Needless to say, I am not trying to change anyones mind. Just stating my own opinion and trying to reiterate the facts that seem so easily skewed at times. I would like to see her transcript and cant help but wonder why they were not included in the documents. As is the case with many things in this tragedy, I suppose no one knows for certain which things the State will or will not be using!

ETA: No matter which pieces one would like to snip from the articles, all (except the interview in her own words) conclusively state that she was turned in by a tip while already doing time. She got a deal to snitch. And of course I linked those stories very early on. I do wonder if the State will even use Mayas information. As always I guess we are left "waiting to see".