Interviews Lisa's Parents Good Morning America, Fox, The Today Show 10/17/2011 #2

[tiredblondy]

[quote=waltzingmatilda;7241761]IDk JennaT but I have a neighbor who hides his liquor in his air conditioner filter when his parents come to visit.:floorlaugh:

wm[/quote]

I didn't think about that! LOL

 

[vasportsmom]

That's not a bad theory, but why would you assume that a parent would immediately cover it up? DB indicated that she has at least peripherally been aware of other missing children cases. That right there would tell her that she would have an idea of what she would face by faking a kidnapping.

Unless the child was (God forbid) beaten or sexually abused prior to an 'accident' who wouldn't call 911 immediately? Sure there are some people who wouldn't but responsible people (most of us) would. There is no reason to think she is irresponsible, abusive or neglectful.

"Drunk" might change that opinion but 3 or 4 glasses (possibly 5) of wine over a 6 hour period while socializing? I have done that in the past, and I have never been drunk enough that I would not have called the cops if I hurt my baby. (Although I might have slept though strange noises).

I posted this a few mins ago but I had a lot of trouble with accepting DB being involved because I couldn't understand or wrap my head around the cover up part (I believed and defended her until late last week) however hearing her admission that she was drunk makes it seem much more likely to me. Discovering her daughter dead would likely be a very sobering event. Sobering enough that she would probably realize she would face neglect charges at the very least (more if LE thought they could prove she overdosed the baby on cough meds while drunk) as well as the possible loss of custody of her son. Would she sacrifice her daughter to protect herself and her son? Obviousily I don't know her and can't say for sure but I am leaning that way now.

I really think DB backed herself in a corner (with this kidnapping story) while not thinking clearly and now she doesn't have a way out other than admit what really happened and face even more severe charges than she would have in the beginning so she is continuing with the lie (holy run on sentence batman). Unlike KC, I don't think she will hold up much longer. She is slowly cracking and telling the truth a bit at a time.

 

[ClaireNC]

I think what we are seeing is a woman whose drinking is quickly spiraling down into full blown alcoholism. A lot of the emotions, reactions and personality traits we are seeing -- narcissism, defensiveness, denial, lying, blaming others, etc. -- are very typical among alcoholics. Especially those who have not yet admitted to themselves that they are, in fact, alcoholics.

I think the big thing she has been trying to hide all along is her drinking. People are reading those actions as a sign of guilt in the disappearance of her daughter. Her guilt is about her drinking.

As for JI, he is the co-dependent in this family afflicted with addiction.

 

[JeannaT]

I wonder if she is admitting being drunk because she somehow found out that the neighbor had already told LE that they drank together that night ? LE probably knew about the drinking early on...MOO

I think LE did know early on that she'd been drinking, since she wasn't drinking alone.

I'm sure it came out in the very first of the investigation, how her evening had gone, and surely she wouldn't attempt (or need) to hide the fact that a neighbor mom had been over there that evening. Her children would surely have mentioned that, it would be impossible to keep that secret - and it in fact bolsters her assertion that she was in fact, home.

 

[wfgodot]

What the hell is going on here?

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My sentiments exactly. Regarding everything.

 

[Karmaa]

If you have your regular boring life taking care of three small children, and follow missing child cases, you'd be quite aware that a missing child can bring a lot of attention. While some people might not want the attention, some might.

But there is nothing to suggest that she has (or feels like she has) a boring life. I imagine her to be pretty social from the neighbor's interviews.

Plus, neither she nor JI seem to be comfortable with the attention, so that would not be my first thought.

 

[belimom]

I also think that - if she were drunk that night, then at 4:00am when JI came home and the 911 call was eventually made, she probably was still under the influence and not thinking clearly. If she is involved, then it's conceivable that the story she came up with at that point in time may not be the one that makes the most sense. Hence the gaps, etc...

JMHO

 

[Cazzie]

i wonder what "kind" of drunk DB is... is she a chill drunk? does she get emotional? does she get worked up and/or violent?

also - why the heck would anyone come out and "admit" ANYTHING that could possibly be used against them in a trial?? wouldn't you just wait and see if it came out some other way and perhaps your defense team could bring it to light during the trial if they didn't have any other avenues to pursue? i just don't get it. i can see making it public info in order to make it seem like maybe you were just out of it and thats why you didn't know what happened and are unable to fit all of the pieces of the timeline together... but why? why do you feel the need to have to reveal this to the public? i sure as heck wouldn't say such a thing if i thought the police were suspecting me of anything.

i think someone's conscience is reaaaaaally getting to them!!!

it just makes me sick to even think about someone being so heartless to throw a baby away, even if it was an accident. that baby deserves better than what has happened to her. if the mother or father did something to her, i hope they feel guilty and hopefully they soon realize that they need to just come clean and allow that precious baby a proper burial (if this is indeed a death, which i am... sadly... pretty sure it is).

i don't think there has to be motive. i think someone could have just snapped, especially if they were in an altered state of mind. and i don't understand DB not allowing the boys to be interviewed anymore. i get it that maybe she feels as though they have already been through enough... but come on... as long as the case is drug out even longer... they'll continue to "go through" a lot. the more LE can find out, the faster they can bring this case to a close. i think someone is just trying to avoid being arrested as long as possible. MHO only. i've been off the fence for a long time.

Why? Well I've thought this before, have posted it before...JMO...

Someone may be trying to taint a jury pool...trying to force a change of venue...JMO...could be...not saying it's true...JMO

 

[JeannaT]

I also think that - if she were drunk that night, then at 4:00am when JI came home and the 911 call was eventually made, she probably was still under the influence and not thinking clearly. If she is involved, then it's conceivable that the story she came up with at that point in time may not be the one that makes the most sense. Hence the gaps, etc...

JMHO

I agree. She may have had a hard time remembering about when she went to bed, about when she saw Lisa, how one of the boys came to be in her bed, etc.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Maybe she was so drunk she fell into it.... Lord knows I've woken up with a few mystery bruises after a night of indulging.....:waitasec:

That was my immediate thought, Murph. Still is, in fact...someone fell into that window drunk, popped out the screen, and couldn't fix it due to lack of coordination.

 

[grandmaj]

New thread on the police at house. Use topic threads peeps.

 

[lisalei321]

Drunk or sober, you still call 911 if your child is hurt

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[grandmaj]

Discuss interviews here.......... new thread for police/FBI activity

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I think what we are seeing is a woman whose drinking is quickly spiraling down into full blown alcoholism. A lot of the emotions, reactions and personality traits we are seeing -- narcissism, defensiveness, denial, lying, blaming others, etc. -- are very typical among alcoholics. Especially those who have not yet admitted to themselves that they are, in fact, alcoholics.

I think the big thing she has been trying to hide all along is her drinking. People are reading those actions as a sign of guilt in the disappearance of her daughter. Her guilt is about her drinking.

As for JI, he is the co-dependent in this family afflicted with addiction.

Hi neighbor! :seeya: (NC resident here)

I totally agree with you and I am concerned.

pssst. google DB (first and last name)> uncle > statement analysis

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Hope i dont' get in trouble for this,,,,,EEK!

wm

 

[curiositycat]

Well, she was defiant, and I am no expert, but just a human being who in my lifetime has had a chance to observe the behavior of certain people who are alcoholics, drug addicts, and especially domestic violence abusers.

From my observance, this woman shows some similar characteristics to other women who have killed their children.

I could go on, and on. The bottom line is, IMHO, she is guilty as sin, knows where that baby is, and sorry to say, I believe that precious baby is no longer living on this earth.

If it turns out I am right, I won't have any more sympathy for DB. PERIOD

 

[mysticrose]

I don't know why, but everytime I watch mom I see $$$ in her eyes, I keep asking myself has this been done for money almost planned, it is weird. It hit me on one of her and hubby's first interviews. This may not be the thread to discuss this, but i just had to type it out because it is bothering me :angel:

 

[Jacie Estes]

In Megan's interview we find out the phones are 'burners' [according to parents] and that there were no minutes on them and so no calls could be made from them.

It is apparent that the parents are a united front;they are not married so there is no marital immunity, one could very well flip on the other but we don't see that happening. We can see that Lisa was not abused, she is, by our own viewing of the videos, a happy and healthy child.

A tragic accident, fueled by alcohol? This is possible but there is also the possibility of an intruder/abductor. It is also possible that while she was 'out' there were people in the house who brought other people into the house. Debbie would have no control, she was not awake. About the fan going while she was sleeping; I know people who do this, I have never been able to, it's too much noise.

Lisa is out there somewhere; she is either still a happy smiling baby and those who have her will not divulge their crime or her location, kidnapping is a federal offense OR she has passed and it is a matter of finding her body. Someone knows something and I don't believe it is the parents. Debbie's story, while not good, is just a part of the whole story. If the parents/Debbie is/are complicit I can't believe that the father would not want to put his beautiful baby to rest.

IMHO

 

[DairyGirl]

This thread is moving so fast. I wanted to comment on the fact that police say a call was made around 2:30 am and the parents say it couldn't have happened because they hadn't paid their bill so there was no way a call could have been made. Not that I know personally, lol, but if you don't pay your bill and you attempt to make a call it gets routed to a message telling you that you need to pay your bill, deadbeat (I added that) and I am wondering if there is some kind of record of an attempted all even if it wasn't completed?

 

[Boodles]

I am actually shocked she admitted it publicly. I have to believe that she told LE much earlier on because it would be suicidal to blurt it out just before the GJ meets.

Also wondering how much BS had to do with convincing her to tell the truth on this ..

I believe she's admitting this because she thinks it supports her allegation that she did not hear anything. She's had time to think more about her story and she's spinning this to her advantage. IMO she now wants us to believe that she was in a drunken deep sleep and therefore did not hear 'the abductor'.

Of course, it could be true that she was passed out and someone took the baby. I don't believe that, I just hope.

What horrifies me the most is her refusal to let the boys speak to police. First, it's just wrong. Their statements are critical!!! Second, the boys are being denied a chance to participate, and that is important for their own emotional well being. The police know how to question a child! This is isolating and has got to be causing distress to the boys to be locked out of being able to participate.

 

[belimom]

So if she last saw her now about 6:30 or 6:40, then does that mean she was home about an hour (max) before she last saw Lisa? If she was on video at the store around 5:00pm? That's not much time to get "drunk". There sure is a time gap now - I wonder if Lisa was under the care of another child, or if she went to sleep and just wasn't checked on again. MOO