Is Terri's Odd Behavior Part of Her Plan?

[BeanE]

It is definitely all in how it is interpreted, and I would never expect everyone to interpret it all the same way. To each their own interpretation...
The same seems to go for whether or not Terri's behavior is interpreted as "ODD" (as is the topic of this thread) Many find it ODD, Many do NOT find it ODD... To each their own opinion as with all aspects of this case along with any other case...
It has to be left at that and serves no purpose whatsoever(other than personal gratification of needing to be correct) and to continue discussing it becomes inflammatory and as is mentioned above is going in complete circular direction, which obviously is not moving forward in discussing the few "facts", speculations, and interpretations of the many things that have come to light (admittedly alot is not even relevant to finding Kyron). Agree to disagree.

I disagree that behavior being odd or not, and whether a court document states a form of communication, are the same. The former is subjective, a matter of opinion. The latter is not subjective.

It's important that we make sure that what we state as fact is indeed that, and distinguish opinion. That's why you see posts all over WS from mods about rumors and links and things like that.

 

[newone]

The car was a gift to Terri from Kaine. It wasn't even her purchase, her peri-menopause at all. She might have expressed a desire for one, but it was a gift from her husband to her. What does that coincide with, I wonder?

Red cars purchased in your 'mid-life' can be a happy thing = great mood lifter.

 

[nonfictionrocks]

Again, the statement suggests LE has SOME sort of reasonable belief that Terri has made sexual overatures to MC resembling ones made to the landscaper.


You assume that because the info we have been given by LE that MC and Terri had a "sextual" (as in via text) relationship that LE is saying that is also the nature of exchanges bewteen landscaper. I see nothing from LE showing that the overatures they refer to in that document consist of texts and/or photos. We have no knowledge about what ELSE LE may or may not know about Terri's relationship with MC or the landscaper.

Just because all LE has released to the public about the Terri/MC communications is that it consisted of texts and photos do not mean that is ALL the communications that took place between them or that LE does not also have access to other communications/contacts between them and simply have not felt a need to tell us.

Other posters also do not interpret that document the same way that you do. This debate will not end. Everyone's is firmly entrenched in their own opinion/interpretation.

BBM

I missed a couple of days information over the weekend. Did someone in LE actually release this information to the public or is this information from KH's court document signed by him and his lawyer. Did LE state this in an article or videoclip backing up this claim? Sorry if I missed this, can anyone clear this up for me please - I hate to be a stickler. TIA

 

[Reverie]

Here's the actual text from the RO, in case no one else posted it:

From the RO, page 11, lines 3-5

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/horman-affair.pdf

"Law enforcement has informed Petitioner's attorney that Respondent's stated personal relationship concerns and sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man Respondent previously attempted to hire to murder Petitioner."

Oh my, Snowball. The extended details of Kyron's case are so convoluted. It definitely reveals a pattern of behavior. In an interview, KH eventually admitted publicly that he and TH had some marital issues, but had worked through them. It sure makes one wonder if this could all be about settling a divorce/custody issue, out of court, iykwim

Poor little Kyron.

 

[Calliope]

Oh my, Snowball. The extended details of Kyron's case are so convoluted. It definitely reveals a pattern of behavior. In an interview, KH eventually admitted publicly that he and TH had some marital issues, but had worked through them. It sure makes one wonder if this could all be about settling a divorce/custody issue, out of court, iykwim

Poor little Kyron.

More like a rejected episode of Springer.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Why not, eh? It's really the last twist left, right?

No. I don't think so. I've thought so a few times, but I have outgrown that thought. Now I wake up each day anticipating the next twist.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I disagree that behavior being odd or not, and whether a court document states a form of communication, are the same. The former is subjective, a matter of opinion. The latter is not subjective.

It's important that we make sure that what we state as fact is indeed that, and distinguish opinion. That's why you see posts all over WS from mods about rumors and links and things like that.

I agree BeanE. There is a difference in stating opinion and then quoting what is fact. I do not want to be misled by "rumors" and I try to always make sure what I am "quoting" is a fact, and provide a link(except when the link is already posted in the thread, tho I'm sure I am guilty of not posting the link@times, but when asked or pointed out that someone would like the link, I edit and post it).

I posted the quote from the RO and then I put what IMO thought was a logical conclusion, that LE stating that MC and the landscapers cell communication with Terri resembling one another in sexual nature would mean (to me IMO) that LE saw the cell communication btwn Terri and MC as well as the communication btwn Terri and the landscaper and concluded they resembled one another in sexual overtones. What led me to this conclusion (my own personal conclusion) was that LE looking at Terri's cell records/activity they saw the communication btwn her and MC, so IF there was communication with a landscaper they would have seen this also in Terri's cell records. And after seeing the nature of current activity with MC they saw the resemblance from the communication they had previously seen in Terri's communication with the landscaper...

This (to me) was a logical conclusion drawn from LE reviewing all cell activity(past&present), computer activity, etc of the parties involved.
Am just curious to know if anyone else is of the opinion that LE has/is reviewing Terri's cell activity, computer activity, etc? ... Or do most feel just the opposite that LE is not looking at such documents both past and present(and not necessarily just of Terri's, but I'd think of all parties involved)? ... Am just curious to know what peoples opinion is on this specific area of the investigation?

 

[Aedrys]

But wouldn't LE have to get the kind of sexual overtures she sends from the landscaper to be able to compare it to MC? I doubt their word alone would suffice. I doubt they would just go on what the two men told them. This is LE, not Jerry Springer. They'd have to know the specific kinds of sexual things she sends, whether it's texts or pictures or both, and then they'd be able to accurately compare that to what they got from MC to be able to draw the conclusion and make the statement that those overtures are similar. That's just good LE footwork to me. Just asking the men wouldn't be enough, IMO. And if all they are going off of asking them questions and basing conclusions on answers like "she sent me naked pictures" from them both, then this case is going to take longer to solve than I thought. ALL IMO, and that answer was just an example, not an actual answer.

 

[debs]

But wouldn't LE have to get the kind of sexual overtures she sends from the landscaper to be able to compare it to MC? I doubt their word alone would suffice. I doubt they would just go on what the two men told them. This is LE, not Jerry Springer. They'd have to know the specific kinds of sexual things she sends, whether it's texts or pictures or both, and then they'd be able to accurately compare that to what they got from MC to be able to draw the conclusion and make the statement that those overtures are similar. That's just good LE footwork to me. Just asking the men wouldn't be enough, IMO. And if all they are going off of asking them questions and basing conclusions on answers like "she sent me naked pictures" from them both, then this case is going to take longer to solve than I thought. ALL IMO, and that answer was just an example, not an actual answer.

LE inferred that the sexual overtures that Terri made with MC are the same as those made with the landscaper....who claimed Terri wanted to hire him to kill her husband. In a sting to take that MFH plot to it's conclusion, Terri called LE, asserting to them that someone was trying to blackmail her.

That assumes that LE assumed that Terri was priming MC to be next in line for a MFH plot, when in fact, the only information we have of a MFH plot is LE's failed sting attempt to get the landscaper to get Terri to pay him $10K to off Kaine.

This is not proof of a MFH plot.

 

[cluciano63]

Wow, so many different takes on this bit about the messages. Imagine how many a defense attorney might raise.

All I am getting from it is that Terri possibly likes to send bawdy/naked photos of herself to men early on in a "friendship." I did not get at all that she was thinking of getting MC to do a hit for her. I still think that if Terri truly wanted Kaine dead, was serious about it, he would be.

 

[SmoothOperator]

LE inferred that the sexual overtures that Terri made with MC are the same as those made with the landscaper....who claimed Terri wanted to hire him to kill her husband. In a sting to take that MFH plot to it's conclusion, Terri called LE, asserting to them that someone was trying to blackmail her.

That assumes that LE assumed that Terri was priming MC to be next in line for a MFH plot, when in fact, the only information we have of a MFH plot is LE's failed sting attempt to get the landscaper to get Terri to pay him $10K to off Kaine.



This is not proof of a MFH plot.

aboveBBM.
I have heard posters here say they(the posters not LE) thoughtthat Terri was possibly "priming" MC to be the next so called hitman for MFH plot. But I have NEVER thought this AT ALL. In fact [IMO] I find it preposterous that, that[priming for MFH] was her intention with MC whatsoever. And I have NEVER thought (because have not seen anything that would infer such)that LE thought, assumed, or implied that Terri's communication was anything other than sexual in nature. NOTHING to indicate that LE even inferred they were similar in nature concerning MFH, rather ONLY that they were similar in sexual nature.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

Wow, so many different takes on this bit about the messages. Imagine how many a defense attorney might raise.

All I am getting from it is that Terri possibly likes to send bawdy/naked photos of herself to men early on in a "friendship." I did not get at all that she was thinking of getting MC to do a hit for her. I still think that if Terri truly wanted Kaine dead, was serious about it, he would be.

landscaper: What would you like me to use as fertilizer?
Terri: I'll pay you $10 extra if you grind my husband up and use him.
landscaper: are you saying you will pay me to kill you husband?

edit: this is not true.

 

[xin]

JUST TO throw it out there again, hate to be dull, but, hey--
-did Terri like to sext Kaine?
-how many phones are we talking about here? household total: cells, landlines, other devices providing access (this is a LOT kiddies!)

thx

 

[xin]

landscaper: What would you like me to use as fertilizer?
Terri: I'll pay you $10 extra if you grind my husband up and use him.
landscaper: are you saying you will pay me to kill you husband?

edit: this is not true.

funny and way to not start a rumor

 

[SmoothOperator]

landscaper: What would you like me to use as fertilizer?
Terri: I'll pay you $10 extra if you grind my husband up and use him.
landscaper: are you saying you will pay me to kill you husband?

edit: this is not true.

:rolling: