Is this case just an ugly domestic dispute between Terri and Kaine..??

[Donjeta]

No, I don't think it's just an ugly domestic dispute. There is a lot of family dysfunction, sure, but that's pretty common, and it doesn't automatically cause children to go missing. I'm inclined to believe there's a dose of personal pathology thrown in too.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I have no words. It's unfathomable to me that someone could hurt or kill a child just to get back at their spouse. I don't care how much the parents hate each other... their kids didn't cause this. Kill each other, but LEAVE THE KIDS OUT OF IT!!!

No, don't kill each other. That hurts the kids deeply and permanently, too.

I will never, ever, in a million years understand how a person can kill another person, unlawfully.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Originally Posted by GingerRed
It's not a domestic dispute. It's a terrible crime. Every day it seems KH and DY learn something more shocking and horrifying about what is going on. Because Kyron is not home there is little they can do now but vent their utter shock and disgust at what TH is doing and possibly find some way at getting the truth.

I believe Kaine is trying to get as much information into the court documents as possible to protect himself, his young daughter and Kyron.

The fact that his school buddy poofs himself into the picture when his son disappears, and winds up photographing the RO, sending it to two people, looking up his address on google and being sexual with his wife is yet another mind boggling blow he must be struggling to understand. And this is similar to how TH worked with the landscaper, police tell him? Scary. Scary that she tried to sneak away his daughter, too.

No, I don't think this is about a jilted husband slinging mud in the press. No, it's not a domestic issue. It's so far beyond that. It's unimaginable. It's a nightmare he can't wake up from.

IMO

bbm

Exactly. I agree

I can't help but wonder if this were reversed and it was TH with a missing child, KH plotting to do a MFH and sexting a woman, the attitude and posts would be totally different.

So why the double standard because Kaine is a man?

GingerRed, definitely a nightmare. I shudder to think of what tomorrow's 'reveals' may be.

RubyRed, I can only guess in that I think in spite of it happening more often (moms killing children), it is still harder for people to accept a loving and nurturing mother figure as being the one to bring harm to a child - or even taking its life, especially if its her own flesh and blood. At least thats my take on it.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

This very well be a domestic gone wrong. I have never seen so many self-absorbed individuals.

I think that if a person has never been involved with someone who has a personality disorder before, it is very weird -- they are not what they seem to be to everyone else, but sometimes, even usually, they are -- cognitive dissonance time. Very confusing and hard for a "normal" person to handle.

Once bitten though, those personality disordered people are much easier to spot, in my experience.

 

[butwhatif?]

No, I don't think it's just an ugly domestic dispute. There is a lot of family dysfunction, sure, but that's pretty common, and it doesn't automatically cause children to go missing. I'm inclined to believe there's a dose of personal pathology thrown in too.

I agree. But we still don't know how many people in that blended family had issues with 'personal pathology'.

JMO

 

[Littleone48]

When I was a stepmother, there were red flags shooting up all over the place that my stepchildren's custodial mother's live-in boyfriend was abusing the children.

The children admitted nothing. They were too scared that they would not be believed by anyone who could save them, and admissions would land them in big trouble. They were right about that.

The first flags were merely indicative, but I could not convince my now-former husband to see that these were flags. The flags increased in intensity, until I was positive.

Neither my former husband nor the children's mother would agree that there was a problem.

I divorced my former husband because of this, when he refused at the last minute to take custody of the children because he decided they wanted to live with us because they wanted to get back at their mother because they were mad at her.

Two years later, I went to visit him and the kids (I had moved far away). Immediately, they sat me down and told me the whole story, and it turned out I was 100% right.

Their father had refused to listen to my analysis at the time. He had a picture of his ex-wife, the children's mother, in his mind, and anything that didn't match with that was irrational because it couldn't happen in our family because she was a good mother. He made excuses for the all the red flags.

Their mother, IMO, was mostly interested in not rocking the boat financially because she had a better lifestyle with the live-in boyfriend than without him (more money to spend on herself). I do think she took the boyfriend's side over that of her kids because of money. I don't think she knew the extent of the abuse.

I divorced him because the lawyer we consulted about gaining custody said the situation was none of my business, that I was only the stepmother who had no legal rights, and there was nothing I could do about it when my husband changed his mind.

Anyway, the point is my stepchildren were being abused by their mother's live-in boyfriend. No one with power (their bioparents) would do anything about it. They were ages 9 to 12, and none of them said one word to anyone about it.

And about those red flags, I think most everyone here would agree that they were red flags. But in the course of ordinary life, there are plenty of people who would not pay much attention to them.

Exactly! You saw it, you said something. I find it hard to believe that Kryon would not have behavior problems that came on suddenly or that if when it was time for him to go home he would act out or ask his mom if he could stay longer. She, D is the mother of this child and she has stated "a mother knows" then I would assume that she would have some sort of warning signs. IMO

I would put more to these stories if they spoke about how she treated Kryon or if Kryon didn't seem to bond with her or if they saw problems besides her lying, to talk about the sex life is IMO not helping to bring Kryon back by any means.

If Terri was this wonderful mother for all of these years and she is involved in this, she is a very very sick woman IMO.

 

[evelyn24]

It's not a domestic dispute. It's a terrible crime. Every day it seems KH and DY learn something more shocking and horrifying about what is going on. Because Kyron is not home there is little they can do now but vent their utter shock and disgust at what TH is doing and possibly find some way at getting the truth.

I believe Kaine is trying to get as much information into the court documents as possible to protect himself, his young daughter and Kyron.

The fact that his school buddy poofs himself into the picture when his son disappears, and winds up photographing the RO, sending it to two people, looking up his address on google and being sexual with his wife is yet another mind boggling blow he must be struggling to understand. And this is similar to how TH worked with the landscaper, police tell him? Scary. Scary that she tried to sneak away his daughter, too.

No, I don't think this is about a jilted husband slinging mud in the press. No, it's not a domestic issue. It's so far beyond that. It's unimaginable. It's a nightmare he can't wake up from.

IMO

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MTE! Excellent post.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I find it hard to believe that Kryon would not have behavior problems that came on suddenly or that if when it was time for him to go home he would act out or ask his mom if he could stay longer.

Here were the major red flags I, as stepmother saw:

1. The live-in boyfriend totally grounded a 9 year old for the entire summer because she did not learn her multiplication tables to his satisfaction. Other unreasonable punishments were given, too, none physical. All parental units knew this. (Chalked up to none of our business; different parenting styles.)

2. The 9 year old started crying hysterically every Sunday night when it was time for her to go home. All parental units knew this. (She wanted Disney Dad -- which was not the case at all.)

3. The 9 year old turned 10 and soon after tried to kill herself. All parental units knew this. (She wanted attention.)

4. I arranged for her to have counseling and she went 3x (paid for by insurance) and then her mother stopped taking her and would not let me do it after I found out. All parental units knew this; I was the *last* to find out, months later. (She didn't need counseling, everything was fine.)

Turned out the youngest child knew what was going on -- that her older sister was being molested (to put it nicely) by the stepfather at night. Also, the mother was being beaten, kicked down the stairs, and so forth by the boyfriend. Only the custodial family unit knew this for a fact.

The truth was told to Dad well after the live-in boyfriend had broken up with the mother and moved out.

 

[evelyn24]

This very well be a domestic gone wrong. I have never seen so many self-absorbed individuals.

How exactly is Kaine being self-absorbed?

 

[evelyn24]

bbm

Exactly. I agree

I can't help but wonder if this were reversed and it was TH with a missing child, KH plotting to do a MFH and sexting a woman, the attitude and posts would be totally different.

So why the double standard because Kaine is a man?

I think so, yes.

 

[Reality Orlando]

I agree, it makes me so angry and gives me a sick feeling that a child could become a PAWN in this incredibly disfunctional relationship! I have known people before that give very ugly with each other, but it never crossed anyones mind to harm a hair on a childs head!

I haven't even started reading the stuff about the affair (or whatever that thread is), once I saw the title, I just decided it would have to wait or I would have to spend all day immersed in it!

All I want is for Kyron to come home, everything else is water under the bridge to me. kwim?

BBM: Reminds me of another case in which a child was used as a pawn IMO, so I believe it does happen. Domestic problems just before the child disappears...of course, there's no nanny in this case...

 

[TrialAddict]

Do men that kill their step child or bio child have these kinds of disorder's too. Or are they just evil selfish people?

 

[grandmaj]

Let's not start rumors again. Remember Kimster's warning yesterday.
Kaine in a recent video interview denied he was having an affair.

The affair allegation came from the Landscaper who said that Terri told him that her husband had hurt her by having an affair with a coworker.

We have no proof whatsoever that what Terri told the Landscaper is true....

You may say the Landscaper stated that Terri alleged it. We may not say emphatically it is true because there is not proof of that.

 

[Aedrys]

I don't think this is a domestic dispute. I think Kyron disappearing was the equivalent of opening a can of worms on this family. Whatever disputes were going on have been revealed and exploded by at least one person. I don't see KH and DY sexting people, trying to steal babies, or revealing documents they aren't supposed to. TH is acting like a self absorbed, needy brat. If anything, she is making all of this come to light as well as making it all worse. If Kyron hadn't gone missing, we wouldn't know about any of this stuff, which rather scares me for the kids in that situation...

 

[JulieAnne]

Is the following being discussed anywhere? I can't find it yet?

"In the interview, they again expressed hope that Kyron would be coming home. When asked if investigators have provided them information to have confidence that Kyron was alive, Kaine said yes. He declined to provide specifics."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Desiree-You...es-lying-98075814.html?commentPage=2#comments

 

[RubyRed]

Is the following being discussed anywhere? I can't find it yet?

"In the interview, they again expressed hope that Kyron would be coming home. When asked if investigators have provided them information to have confidence that Kyron was alive, Kaine said yes. He declined to provide specifics."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Desiree-You...es-lying-98075814.html?commentPage=2#comments

We had a thread but I think it is closed.

 

[Cher352]

This case is so crazy! All this drama between the adults, the PC's and the legal action seems to be taking away the focus on finding Kyron.

(P.S. I think I am beginning to fiqure out who all these unnamed sources in the media are.)

 

[RubyRed]

Is the following being discussed anywhere? I can't find it yet?

"In the interview, they again expressed hope that Kyron would be coming home. When asked if investigators have provided them information to have confidence that Kyron was alive, Kaine said yes. He declined to provide specifics."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Desiree-You...es-lying-98075814.html?commentPage=2#comments

Some discussion here about it.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5397867#post5397867"]Does someone besides TH know what happened to Kyron? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[ThoughtFox]

To me, whenver adults don't act responsibly, not matter what they are doing - whether adultery or any other deceitful act - then all the children suffer. Lying to members of your family hurts everyone. Holding pent-up resentment against stepchildren is the basis of every nightmarish fairy tale from Hansel and Gretel to Cinderella. This is nothing new at all, but is a story old as time.

Some children suffer more than others, and in this case a young innocent child might have paid the ultimate price.

ETA: I couldn't care less if the main suspect is upset. TH was the last person with the child, not the father. So that's where we are looking. She is not the victim - the child is the victim. Sorry, that's one of my pet peeves in almost every case, when the main suspect wants to be seen as a victim and meanwhile can't get his or her story straight.

But as far as it being sordid? I'm really surprised that anyone is surprised, you know? :waitasec: Even if no one else was involved with TH, it would still be sordid because making your stepchild "disappear" is a sordid and sad and dirty thing to do. It's not the adultery that's surprising, but the extreme measures people will go to sometimes to be with another person or avoid divorce.

I hate to say this but it will probably get alot more sordid before this is over. Fasten your seatbelts.

 

[Reality Orlando]

I'm sure there's a lot more to this than we even know. It will trickle out...but this sure is one crazy case. Prayers for Kyron!