• #681
I did. I served in the pointless war in Afghanistan.

I’d rejoin and be in theater for this in a heartbeat. A once in a lifetime opportunity to help collapse a terror regime, or at the very least, significantly degrade its ability to terrorize people around the world.

Again, the regime Iran is directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Look at what they are doing right now. This is exactly who they are.
Thank you for your service. My grandfather, Uncle, father and both brothers served in the military. Uncle served in Korea, one brother served in Desert Storm and the other served 2 tours in Iraq. All said they would go back to help the people in those countries.
 
  • #682
Is this the quote you were thinking of?

“I can go long and take over the whole thing, or end it in two or three days and tell the Iranians, ’See you again in a few years if you start rebuilding [your nuclear and missile programs],’” the president said. “In any case, it will take them several years to recover from this attack.”

Yes, thank you! When I heard 2-3 or 5 days, I assumed that the goal was to ensure that this did not turn into a weeks or years long war. Today, we hear that it will last 4-5 weeks.
 
  • #683
There’s just a complete lack of understanding as to how the US military operates.
100%.

The US military works exactly as any western military does; that's what makes us allies.
 
  • #684
"The mission of Operation Epic Fury is laser-focused," Hegseth said today during a briefing at the Pentagon. "Destroy Iranian offensive missiles, destroy Iranian missile production, destroy their navy and other security infrastructure, and they will never have nuclear weapons."

For decades, Iran has been in pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability, through both enrichment of weapons-grade nuclear material and development of missiles that can carry a nuclear warhead.

In June 2025, during Operation Midnight Hammer, the United States struck Iran's Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant using 30,000-pound GBU-57 "massive ordnance penetrator" bombs. That operation, Hegseth said, obliterated Iran's nuclear program.
 
  • #685
Yes
He cut 20% of 4 star generals
A purge of over a dozen top leaders including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the vice chief head of Global strike command and the Air Force Special ops command as an example
I highly doubt he has any respect an it’s well known he had no experience
I can't speak for other branches because I have no firsthand knowledge, but I can speak for the Army, and it's been downsizing some MOS's and restructuring things for many years now. This happens over time, things evolve and it changes. I've been an Army wife for 27 years, so I've seen things change a lot both directions during that time. I've seen the massive increase in troops and the need to downsize once we were out of Afghanistan and Iraq. The military always adjusts and there is good and bad with that, but it isn't anything new to this administration, but for some reason it seems to get made into a headline as if it is Trumps personal choice to fire people. IMO
 
  • #686
  • #687
Under the guidance of Military Intelligence, the Air Force completed a strike targeting dozens of command centers of the Iranian terror regime in the heart of Tehran.

As part of the sortie, the IDF struck command centers and bases of internal security forces subordinate to the Iranian terror regime, which are responsible for suppressing protests against the regime, including through the use of violence and the arrest of civilians. The strike on these bases deepens the damage to the regime's suppression capabilities.

In addition, the IDF struck more than 10 command centers of the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence, the central intelligence body of the terror regime, and the headquarters of the "Quds Force" unit. The strikes targeted command centers where Military Intelligence identified activity by regime soldiers.

Alongside this, the Air Force continued to strike ground-to-ground missile launchers, sites used to produce weaponry for Iranian forces, as well as additional sites of the Revolutionary Guards.

The completed strike deepens the damage to the Iranian terror regime. The IDF will continue to strike the regime's systems and operatives wherever they operate.

 
  • #688
While refusing to directly join the war, Britain, France and Germany have said they would work with the United State to help stop Iran’s attacks. The U.K. will allow U.S. forces to use British bases to attack Iran’s missiles and launch sites.

Still, almost no European leader has criticized the U.S.-Israeli attacks. Many are satisfied to see the downfall of an Iranian regime that has for years arrested European citizens and challenged Europe’s economic interests.

Spain has been a rare dissenting voice. “One can be against a hateful regime,” Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said Sunday, “and at the same time, be against a military intervention that is unjustifiable, dangerous and outside of international law.”
 
  • #689
Respectfully, that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about, which is military effectiveness.
I thought we were talking about the undeclared war on Iran.

MOO
 
  • #690
"The mission of Operation Epic Fury is laser-focused," Hegseth said today during a briefing at the Pentagon. ...
sbm

nitpick, but i've always hated this expression. lasers aren't focused, they're collimated.
 
  • #691
There’s just a complete lack of understanding as to how the US military operates.
I thank you for your service, but having served does not automatically mean you know how the US military operates.

MOO
 
  • #692
I thank you for your service, but having served does not automatically mean you know how the US military operates.

MOO
Is this a joke?
 
  • #693
Obama hasn’t been the president for almost 10 years. The Trump administration bombed Iran 3 days ago. I will never understand the constant need to bring up Obama, Biden, Hilary, Jimmy Carter every time there’s a discussion about current events happening under the Trump administration. All MOO.
Blame anyone, blame Trump #1 for giving us this situation
 
  • #694
  • #695
Is this a joke?
Are you saying that as a former Marine you know exactly how the entire military and pentagon works?
I have a former one in my family, he took orders, not knowing decisions at all
 
  • #696

Here's the latest​

Trump on Iran: President Donald Trump told CNN’s Jake Tapper the “big wave” is yet to come in the war with Iran. In separate remarks, Trump said Iran ignored his warnings over its nuclear program, and he did not rule out sending US troops to Iran if “necessary.”

Pentagon briefs press: US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called on Iranians to “take advantage” of the opportunity for regime change, even as he said the war was not about ousting the government in Tehran.
 
  • #697
I don't agree with Spain's actions but I do so wish Starmer had a backbone.
 
  • #698
Are you saying that as a former Marine you know exactly how the entire military and pentagon works?
I have a former one in my family, he took orders, not knowing decisions at all
No. I’m saying I know exactly how decisions are made. I assure you, the specifics are left to career professionals who know exactly what they are doing.

The president and defense secretary are big picture. They aren’t forming strike packages, or in the weeds with targeting.

It does not matter who is president when it comes to specifics like that.
 
  • #699

Here's the latest​

Trump on Iran: President Donald Trump told CNN’s Jake Tapper the “big wave” is yet to come in the war with Iran. In separate remarks, Trump said Iran ignored his warnings over its nuclear program, and he did not rule out sending US troops to Iran if “necessary.”

Pentagon briefs press: US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called on Iranians to “take advantage” of the opportunity for regime change, even as he said the war was not about ousting the government in Tehran.
He sounds gleeful, doesn't he? Imagine your son or daughter (if there are any left) is serving in a combat role and you hear your president say with a shrug that he has no yips about saying he'll put boots on the ground or warning there will be more casualties. 🤷‍♀️
 
  • #700
Two things can be true.

This can be about getting rid of Iran's ability to make nuclear weapons, which I think is the number one concern. It can also have the effect of bringing regime change. These things are not opposite goals and the President saying this is about Iran building nuclear weapons does not mean it also isn't true that now is the time for Iranians to stand up and help with regime change. Both can happen at the same time. We just helped them in a big way by taking out the biggest problem in their way. If it was about regime change, we could have stopped with taking out the Ayatollah. IMO
 

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