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BY ISABEL DEBRE
Updated 8:59 PM GMT, November 11, 2023

The claims and counterclaims over Gaza’s hospitals have raised pressing questions about what is allowed under international laws governing war.

International humanitarian law lends hospitals special protections during war. But hospitals can lose their protections if combatants use them to hide fighters or store weapons, the International Committee of the Red Cross said.

Nonetheless, there must be plenty of warning before attacks to allow for the safe evacuation of patients and medical workers, ICRC legal officer Cordula Droege said.

Even if Israel succeeds in proving Shifa conceals a Hamas command center, the tenets of international law remain in place, said Jessica Wolfendale, expert in military ethics at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio.

“It doesn’t license an instant attack,” she said. “Steps need to be taken to protect the innocent as much as possible.”

If the harm to civilians is disproportionate to the military objective, the attack is illegal under international law.

In an editorial published Friday in Britain’s The Guardian newspaper, International Criminal Court prosecutor Karim Khan issued a warning to combatants that the burden of proof is on them if they claim hospitals, schools or houses of worship have lost their protected status because they are being used for military purposes. And the bar for evidence is very high.

“If there is a doubt that a civilian object has lost its protective status, the attacker must assume that it is protected,” Khan wrote. “The burden of demonstrating that this protective status is lost rests with those who fire the gun, the missile, or the rocket in question.”

 
  • #482
3m ago
Here are some images coming through the newswires from Tel Aviv where anti-war protestors took to the streets to call for the release of hostages by Hamas and a ceasefire as the Israeli government comes under increasing criticism over its escalating military campaign across Gaza that has killed over 11,000 Palestinians:

Protesters take part in a demonstration calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, at the Museum of Art in Tel Aviv, Israel, 11 November 2023.

Protesters take part in a demonstration calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, at the Museum of Art in Tel Aviv, Israel, 11 November 2023. Photograph: Neil Hall/EPA


Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023.

Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Anadolu/Getty Images


Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023.

Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Anadolu/Getty Images


People take part in a protest demanding the release of the hostages held in Gaza who were seized in the October 7 attack by Hamas gunmen, in Tel Aviv, Israel, November 11, 2023.

People take part in a protest demanding the release of the hostages held in Gaza who were seized in the October 7 attack by Hamas gunmen, in Tel Aviv, Israel, November 11, 2023.Photograph: Ilan Rosenberg/Reuters


 
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An aerial view of relatives gathering to demand that the government take action to secure the return of their relatives on the 33rd day of Israeli attacks on November 11, 2023 in Tel Aviv, Israel.

An aerial view of relatives gathering to demand that the government take action to secure the return of their relatives on the 33rd day of Israeli attacks on November 11, 2023 in Tel Aviv, Israel.Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Anadolu/Getty Images


Relatives gather to demand that the government take action to secure the return of their relatives on the 33rd day of Israeli attacks on November 11, 2023 in Tel Aviv, Israel.

Relatives gather to demand that the government take action to secure the return of their relatives on the 33rd day of Israeli attacks on November 11, 2023 in Tel Aviv, Israel. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Anadolu/Getty Images


A protester holds up a banner depicting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and reading ‘impeachment now’ during a demonstration calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, at the Museum of Art in Tel Aviv, Israel, 11 November 2023.

A protester holds up a banner depicting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and reading ‘impeachment now’ during a demonstration calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, at the Museum of Art in Tel Aviv, Israel, 11 November 2023. Photograph: Neil Hall/EPA

 
  • #484
27m ago
Here is video of Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman delivering an address earlier today at the Saudi Arabia-hosted Arab-Islamic summit on Gaza:

“The Kingdom affirms its categorical rejection of the continuing aggression, occupation and forced displacement of the people of Gaza and stresses that Israel bears responsibility for the crimes committed against Palestinian people and resources,” bin Salman said.


 
  • #485
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he opposes a role for the current Palestinian Authority government in Gaza once the war between Israel and Hamas ends.

In response to a question about whether the Palestinian Authority, which has partial administrative control in the occupied West Bank, may govern Gaza after the war, Netanyahu said: "There will be full security control (in Gaza), with the (Israel Defense Forces') ability to enter whenever we want, to kill terrorists who can re-appear. I can tell you what will not be: There will not be Hamas."

 
  • #486
Live from my country's MSM:
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" 'The horror continues.

Patients started dying'.

Israel denies.

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Saturday is the 36th day of the war between Israel and Hamas.

The largest hospital in Gaza ran out of fuel and, according to local authorities, at least five patients died, including a premature baby,
media reported on Saturday.

Medical devices stopped working.

Patients, especially those in intensive care, began to die,
said the facility's director, Mohammed Abu Selmia.

He also made a terrible accusation, claiming that Israeli troops

'are shooting at everyone,
outside and inside the hospital'.

The Israeli army denies that the hospital is under siege or under direct attack."

 
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2h ago
Médecins Sans Frontières reports that medical staff in Gaza have become so overwhelmed by the amount of incoming patients that the surgical board used to keep track of upcoming surgeries has been erased and replaced with the following words:




That surgical board is entirely in English. Interesting...
 
  • #488

Egypt crossing to be reopened on Sunday, Hamas-run border authority says​


Gaza's Hamas-run border authority has announced that the Rafah border crossing into Egypt would reopen on Sunday for foreign passport holders and dependents.

The land crossing between Gaza and Egypt's Sinai peninsula is the only entry into the strip not controlled by Israel.

Rafah has been opened a number of times for the last couple of weeks for evacuations of foreign passport holders and some injured Gazans.

The crossing is also crucial for aid trucks going into Gaza.

Evacuations from Gaza into Egypt, including for Palestinians needing urgent medical treatment, were suspended on Friday.

Egyptian and Palestinian sources told Reuters this was due to problems transporting medical evacuees from northern Gaza.

 
  • #489

Hezbollah chief says its attacks against Israel are a 'support front'​


Hugo Bachega
Reporting from Beirut

Hassan Nasrallah, the influential leader of the Lebanese movement Hezbollah, has said the group has stepped up its offensive against Israel in the past week and that attacks from southern Lebanon will continue, describing it as a “support front”.

Addressing his supporters for the second time since the Israel-Hamas war started earlier today, he said Hezbollah – which is considered a terrorist organisation by the UK, the US and others – was striking deeper into Israeli territory, with weapons that include explosive drones and a missile with an explosives payload between 300 and 500kg.

Israel and Hezbollah have exchanged fire almost every day along their border for more than a month - but so far, most of the attacks have been contained to military sites and open fields.

In his first speech last week, Nasrallah said Hezbollah was already doing enough to help Hamas in Gaza, by keeping Israeli troops busy on the country’s northern border. For those expecting him to announce any escalation, he had a message today: the actions on the ground will speak for themselves.

In his televised speech, Nasrallah also talked about recent attacks carried out by militias against US bases in Iraq and Syria as well as attacks by Houthi rebels in Yemen. Like Hezbollah, these groups are part of the so-called Axis of Resistance, an alliance of forces in the region supported by Iran.

Tehran, he said, gave those groups political, military, and financial support, but did not make decisions on behalf of them.

 
  • #490

London’s pro-Palestine march live: 126 people arrested as police highlight ‘deeply concerning’ rightwing violence​


2h ago
Matt Twist, assistant commissioner at the Met, has given an update on today’s events, in which 126 people have been arrested so far. In the statement, he calls the extreme violence from rightwing protestors towards the police “extraordinary” and “deeply concerning”. Describing the day’s events, he said:

They arrived early, stating they were there to protect monuments, but some were already intoxicated, aggressive and clearly looking for confrontation.
Abuse was directed at officers protecting the Cenotaph, including chants of “you’re not English any more”.
This group were largely football hooligans from across the UK and spent most of the day attacking or threatening officers who were seeking to prevent them being able to confront the main march.
Twist says that many in the groups of far-right protesters were stopped and searched, with weapons including a knife, a baton and knuckleduster and class A drugs being found. He said: “Thanks to the considerable efforts of our officers, who put themselves in harm’s way, nobody was able to reach the Cenotaph, which was protected at all times.”

Twist added that nine police officers had been injured on Saturday, with two requiring hospital treatment: one with a fractured elbow and another with a suspected dislocated hip. Those officers were injured on Whitehall as they prevented a violent crowd getting to the Cenotaph while a remembrance service was taking place, he said.

Speaking about the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) march, Twist said it had not displayed the sort of physical violence carried out by the rightwing protesters. He said:

We know that for London’s Jewish communities, whose fears and concerns we absolutely recognise, the impact of hate crime and in particular antisemitic offences is just as significant.
At the end of the PSC march, we once again saw breakaway groups behaving in an intimidating manner.
Officers intercepted a group of 150 who were wearing face coverings and firing fireworks. Arrests were made after some of the fireworks struck officers in the face.

There were also a number of serious offences identified in relation to hate crime and possible support for proscribed organisations during the protest that we are actively investigating.
Commenting on the challenge of policing a crowd of the size that was at the pro-Palestinian march seen today, Twist said that it had been made more difficult by the violence of far-right protesters:

Locating and intercepting suspects in a crowd of the size we saw today will always be challenging, but we were further limited in our ability to do so due to the number of officers we had to deploy, from early in the day, in response to violence from the rightwing groups in central London.
He added that the Met would publish images of some of the suspects soon and vowed to “pursue all available lines of inquiry to identify suspects and take action even after the conclusion of protests”. Twist ends with a reminder that many officers are still deployed across central London, responding to any outbreaks of disorder and ensuring key sites are protected before tomorrow’s remembrance events.

 
  • #491
IDF fighter jets struck a series of Hezbollah terrorist infrastructure and military posts in Lebanon in response to attacks over the last day.

In addition, a Hezbollah terrorist cell launched several rockets from Lebanon toward northern Israel earlier today. In response, an IDF aircraft struck the terrorist cell and launch pad.

For Hamas sympathizers who claim its 'fighters' only planned to attack Israeli army bases: At the scene of the Nir Oz pogrom the terrorists left aerial imagery +operational order for the massacre. Of the Kibbutz's 400 residents, 25% were murdered/abducted What Hamas' Meticulous Battle Plan for Kibbutz Nir Oz Looked Like - Israel News - Haaretz.com
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  • #492

‘Personal and painful’: how Gaza war has split families, friends and colleagues in Britain​

[…]

“You think, if I say something then you go down the worst kind of rabbit hole,” they said. “It’s so hard, because it seems a greater crime, what’s happening in Gaza. Yet what Hamas did and have promised they will continue to do is appalling. I think everyone is trying to find a safe place to land and so a lot of people are not saying anything.”

[…]

 
  • #493
3m ago
Here are some images coming through the newswires from Tel Aviv where anti-war protestors took to the streets to call for the release of hostages by Hamas and a ceasefire as the Israeli government comes under increasing criticism over its escalating military campaign across Gaza that has killed over 11,000 Palestinians:

Protesters take part in a demonstration calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, at the Museum of Art in Tel Aviv, Israel, 11 November 2023.

Protesters take part in a demonstration calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, at the Museum of Art in Tel Aviv, Israel, 11 November 2023. Photograph: Neil Hall/EPA


Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023.

Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Anadolu/Getty Images


Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023.

Israeli protesters stage a demonstration demanding an end of Israeli army’s attacks on Gaza and prisoner exchange in Tel Aviv, Israel on November 11, 2023. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Anadolu/Getty Images


People take part in a protest demanding the release of the hostages held in Gaza who were seized in the October 7 attack by Hamas gunmen, in Tel Aviv, Israel, November 11, 2023.

People take part in a protest demanding the release of the hostages held in Gaza who were seized in the October 7 attack by Hamas gunmen, in Tel Aviv, Israel, November 11, 2023.Photograph: Ilan Rosenberg/Reuters



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Quote from above

"One massacre does NOT justify another"

How true!!!
Thank you for these words Israeli people!

And "Save children"
Yes!!!!

JMO
 
  • #494
IDF has repeatedly said, release the hostages, for a ceasefire.

Why is are they not seeking and end, by seeking to locate and return the hostages?

All these meetings, everyone flying here and there, lined up for media photos in their finery. Just pick up the phone, call your Hamas friends and get back our hostages!!!!

Moo



Moo

IMO, many of the hostages are no longer alive. When one studies the biographies of the hostages that have been posted online, a great many are older people who are in need of medications. Others were injured when they were seized. Some of the younger women were raped and beaten. It is likely that some of the hostages were shot or stabbed. When one considers the conditions during their abduction and the probable lack of medical care and medications, it is likely that a large percentage did not survive. Stress also exacerbates illness and injury. Some were probably murdered in Gaza - there is no reason to think the killing would stop once they left Israel's borders. There are photographs of wanton executions inside the Israeli kibbutzes - undoubtedly these executions continued once the hostages were inside Gaza.

In the past, Hamas has negotiated for years over the return of human remains. I think the lack of negotiations really indicates that Hamas has very few live hostages at this point. JMO
 
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  • #496
Tomorrow marks one month since Israel started warning civilians in Gaza City to evacuate south for their safety, and one month since Hamas started urging them to stay and martyr themselves.

Lest we forget.

 
  • #497

Israel's defence minister warns Hezbollah against escalation​

In his address earlier this evening, Benjamin Netanyahu warned Iranian-backed militia Hezbollah "do not make that mistake and start a war".

The Israeli prime minister was responding to an earlier speech by Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah we've just reported on.

Any war, Netanyahu threatened, would "decide the destiny of Lebanon".

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, who spoke after Netanyahu, used even stronger language in his warnings to Lebanon and Hezbollah.

He said the Israeli Air Force was operating on the Israel-Lebanon border, and the military more broadly was prepared for any escalation.

The citizens of Lebanon should know that if Nasrallah makes a mistake, then the fate of Beirut may be like the fate of Gaza."

 
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  • #499
1h ago / 1:58 PM PST

Inert grenade found at Holocaust Memorial Park, Central Synagogue cleared after bomb threat, NYC police say​

Police in New York City responded to separate incidents at Holocaust Memorial Park and Manhattan’s Central Synagogue on Saturday.

Just before 10 a.m., officers were called to the park and saw a “grenade inside the pond,” the NYPD said. The bomb squad was called and determined that it was an inert grenade that cannot explode. Police said the scene was cleared. It’s not clear how long the grenade was in the pond, authorities said.

Less than an hour later, police were called to the synagogue for reports of bomb threats to the building, the NYPD said. It was reported that two bags were “going to explode” but nothing was found during a search, according to NBC New York.

“Police quickly surveyed the area and there was a negative result,” authorities said.

 
  • #500
National Security Adviser and NSC Director Tzachi Hanegbi met with Polish National Security Bureau Head Jacek Siewiera, and emphasized that all European countries needed to apply relentless pressure to bring about the immediate release of the hostages, including Polish nationals.
 
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