Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

[Baby baby Jane]

I cannot agree with your conclusion.

I’m a lifelong New Yorker, I understand everything you’re saying about the Mafia and other illicit organizations and what payback truly entails.

I can agree that people can claim to be brave but falter when faced with the dire consequences inherent in confronting evil.

HOWEVER, as posted my @Momoffourboys, the person alluded to is the HEAD OF THE RED CROSS. Not some trembling underling.

If the HEAD of the RED CROSS finds himself too cowardly to perform his most basic function then he should be fired and IMO arrested. This dereliction of duty has led to many unnecessary deaths. He has been an ancillary to terrorism by failing to do his job and report what was truly happening.

I’m also unsure why the slap at Eylon Levy? He must have served his time in the military as an Israeli, and being a spokesman puts the spotlight on him for terrorists.

IMO

Total self interest by Red Cross -

This is what they agree around the Boardroom table:
Head of Red Cross begs for ambulances - shakes his cup asking for donations to save the babies.

They decide not to tell the truth:
Head of Red Cross says the bad-guys are using the Red Cross ambulances for safe taxi service. No donations.

The Charity Head Officers know what gets the donations and they are exploiting and looking anti-Israel.

 

[Cryptic]

If the HEAD of the RED CROSS finds himself too cowardly to perform his most basic function then he should be fired and IMO arrested.

I’m also unsure why the slap at Eylon Levy? He must have served his time in the military as an Israeli, and being a spokesman puts the spotlight on him for terrorists.

The head of the red cross (if in Gaza )still needs to worry about losing his head- or that of somebody he cares about if not personally there.

Eylon Levy is the one tossing around terms like "gross negligence" when the core fact is that betraying groups like Hamas, Narco Cartels, IRA, UDF, Wagner is usually far easier said than done. His back ground does not really matter.

In the end, he should take the dangers of betraying Hamas into consideration before accusing others of "gross negligence" in these circumstances.

I have no idea what Eylon Levy would do in regards to personally betraying Hamas or a Narco group in their home territory. Then again, I have no idea what I would do either. Bravery? Maybe, but maybe not.

 

[Momoffourboys]

3-year-old American girl crawled from under murdered dad’s body before she was taken hostage by Hamas​

3-year-old American girl crawled from under murdered dad’s body before she was taken hostage by Hamas

A 3-year-old American girl who is being held in Gaza was reportedly in her father’s arms when he and her mom were killed by Hamas terrorists – and managed to crawl out from under his body before sh…

nypost.com

 

[Brightchaser47]

Very happy for the families of these 50 hostages ... if this goes through.

Very sad for those that will suffer longer as Hamas get 3 days to restock and reload.

It's just like giving a school shooter 3 days to get his/her cra* back together whilst the other hostages suffer. THAT would never be allowed to happen. Just imagine.

I'm curious as to why the three days. I mean, why that particular number? It shouldn't take three days to reload.

 

[shotgun09]

Yeah, these videos…

So it got me thinking. I think Israel will defeat Hamas in this round.

However, it brings to mind, now they are going to say Israel killed all these civilians and children, so there must be further, future retaliation, that maybe their goals, motivations, and resolve have been strengthened.

These kids will grow up with these thoughts in mind, and could ignite a further movement, new cell, whatever you want to call it.

In other words, we are possibly looking at the terrorists of the future. That even if Hamas is defeated in this round, I think it’s possible they will try to build back, with Israel’s retaliation being their further motivation. Some of their family members may have been killed in the strikes.

Not explaining myself well, just thinking out loud that this could continue for years and years. Soon these children will be teenagers, and adults.

Israel will have damaged all their infrastructure, etc., but I think it’s likely they will try to build back. They do have allies. They’re not just going to say ok it’s over. This is engrained in their blood and minds since childhood, obviously, and now as a result of Israel’s damage and fatal operations, specifically as related to their family members, this may provide more fuel for the fire in the long term future.

I know what you are saying!
IMO, this is continuing the cycle, " We are the victims!", to perpetrate continuous hate against Israel ( and the west ).

It must continue, or they fail to exist.

MOO and Peace

 

[Dotta]

"Israel says it HAS found weapons 'and other things' beneath Al-Shifa after US says it 'did not give the OK' for hospital raid: ​

World now waits to see evidence of what IDF discovered - as Hamas dismisses 'lies and propaganda'.​

• Israeli soldiers stormed the sprawling al-Shifa hospital early on Wednesday
• They claimed on Wednesday afternoon to have found weapons within the facility"

Israel says it HAS found weapons 'and other things' beneath Al-Shifa

Mark Regev, an advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister announced on Wednesday that Israeli forces had 'discovered weapons and other things' after nearly a week spent encircling the hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Momoffourboys]

Qatar is reportedly seeking '50 hostages for 3-day truce' deal Biden and Netanyahu met Tuesday night to discuss this deal at length. A deal where 'the essence is children and Americans first' Defense and Government commentator
@Rimanero says

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724839896370565356

 

[Cryptic]

I'm curious as to why the three days. I mean, why that particular number? It shouldn't take three days to reload.

They probably wanted more. But... the Israelis could have said three days max.

And... from HAMAS's view, its not just about re loading a machine gun. Rather it includes repositioning units, replacing killed commanders, giving fighters time to rest, bringing in more weapons via the Egyptian tunnels, moving and hiding hostages. And of course, eliminating "traitors"- or their family members.

The things to do list could include "escape"- well, for the lucky senior members. All in all, there is alot for Hamas to do in just three days.

 

[Momoffourboys]

The Biden administration is releasing an additional $10 billion to the Islamic Republic…in a development that cannot be justified by any sane person who seeks peace in the Middle East.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724515568277926089

Last time when the Biden admin released 6 billion to Iran, I said people will die as a result of this. Then October 7 happened.Now I’m warning again. People will die because of this @POTUS and you are responsible. You too will have blood of innocents on your hands.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724791029969428773

 

[Momoffourboys]

The Hamas Parliamentary Building in Gaza City, which was recently Captured by the 1st "Golani" Brigade of the Israel Defense Force who released Images of them holding the Isreali Flag in the Main Chamber, has now been Totally Demolished by IDF Explosive Teams.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724810523265679554

 

[Brightchaser47]

The Hamas Parliamentary Building in Gaza City, which was recently Captured by the 1st "Golani" Brigade of the Israel Defense Force who released Images of them holding the Isreali Flag in the Main Chamber, has now been Totally Demolished by IDF Explosive Teams.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724810523265679554

Was there a tunnel under it?

 

[Arkay]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/eu-parliament-slams-hateful-palestinian-textbooks-threatens-funding-freeze/

I posted this several threads ago, but for those who still doubt, I am again posting this link to highlight just one illustration from Hamas textbooks..a joyous little girl, delighted as she watches the infidels burn.

This is what the girls learn. You can imagine how much further it goes with the boys who will actually commit these acts in the future, and which the girls will then eventually espouse to their future sons.

If this curriculum does not get banned, today’s Gazan children will perpetuate this terrorism.

IMO

 

[Brightchaser47]

The Biden administration is releasing an additional $10 billion to the Islamic Republic…in a development that cannot be justified by any sane person who seeks peace in the Middle East.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724515568277926089

Last time when the Biden admin released 6 billion to Iran, I said people will die as a result of this. Then October 7 happened.Now I’m warning again. People will die because of this @POTUS and you are responsible. You too will have blood of innocents on your hands.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724791029969428773

Whaaat???

 

[Cryptic]

Was there a tunnel under it?

Probably, but I think there is a alot of symbolism in the decision to destroy the building as well. Hamas is gone- and so is the building from which the attack was conceived.

 

[MyBelle]

Here is some information on that, @MyBelle -

https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1724448506344100309?s=20

Also, more information on that here in this article from 2021 in Foreign Policy:

“Nearly 60 percent of UNRWA’s roughly $1 billion annual budget is allocated to education programs which claim to teach children values of peace, tolerance, and nonviolent conflict resolution. Yet according to various studies of the Palestinian curriculum, which is taught by UNRWA in the Palestinian territories, the agency is falling far short of that goal. Textbooks depict Jews as enemies of Islam, glorify so-called martyrs who have died while committing terror attacks, and promote jihad for the liberation of historic Palestine, including areas firmly within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, such as Jaffa and Haifa. Maps of the region do not include the state of Israel, which throughout the curriculum is referred to as “the Zionist Occupation.”

Palestinian Schools Have a Problem—and Are Running Out of Time

The U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees has failed to fulfill demands for reform—and may soon face the consequences.

foreignpolicy.com

RSBM; BBM

I find the bolded part of that quote from the surgeon telling. Maybe he’s saying that out of anger and didn’t really mean it, but it seems very inappropriate for him to say he would refuse aid for his patients if offered to him.

The article is from two years ago and very clearly states reform was required. The State Dept. and UNRWA signed an agreement. Where is the proof that it is still an issue two years later? I have no reason to doubt Blinken's leadership.

I also don't understand why it is even an issue during this war. afaik, no Palestinian children are in school.

JMO

From the link:
According to the Framework for Cooperation signed by the U.S. State Department and UNRWA on July 14, continued U.S. financing will require UNRWA to implement various reforms, including combating incitement and antisemitism in its educational curriculum, requiring the neutrality of its staff, and ensuring UNRWA facilities are not used by terrorist organizations and its staff are not affiliated with them. The framework—along with recently introduced bipartisan legislation—follow numerous reports on the problematic nature of UNRWA’s education system.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Probably, but I think there is a alot of symbolism in the decision to destroy the building as well. Hamas is gone- and so is the building from which the attack was conceived.

Oh, I agree. I was just curious.

 

[Friday Fan]

"Israel says it HAS found weapons 'and other things' beneath Al-Shifa after US says it 'did not give the OK' for hospital raid: ​

World now waits to see evidence of what IDF discovered - as Hamas dismisses 'lies and propaganda'.​

​

Israel says it HAS found weapons 'and other things' beneath Al-Shifa

Mark Regev, an advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister announced on Wednesday that Israeli forces had 'discovered weapons and other things' after nearly a week spent encircling the hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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We need a clock emoji!

Can't resist the graphic from the DM.

 

[Vern]

I'm curious as to why the three days. I mean, why that particular number? It shouldn't take three days to reload.

The on-site "leaders" of Hamas still in the Gaza probably need that long to make it through their tunnel network in the strip and to step out at an exit within some Hamas or Muslim Brotherhood's house in Egypt so they can go settle down nice and snug in Qatar. Funny they never seem to choose Iran to move themselves to.

 

[Sillybilly]

STOP Reporting posts because you disagree with the other member or you think it is misinformation.

Reports are for violations of TOS, not because you don't like what the other member has to say. Disagree respectfully and move on.

If it's misinformation, find the correct information to refute the misinformation and it can be discussed by members within the thread. Mods are swamped and are not here to do research you can do yourself.

Thank you.

 

[Dotta]

Probably, but I think there is a alot of symbolism in the decision to destroy the building as well. Hamas is gone- and so is the building from which the attack was conceived.

Spot on!
As usual, I might add