Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

[Chimera]

Report: Khamenei told Haniyeh that Iran will not directly enter war​

According to a report in Reuters, Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh earlier this month: You gave us no warning of your Oct. 7 attack on Israel and we will not enter the war on your behalf.

The Reuters report cites “three senior officials” as saying that Khamenei told Haniyeh that while Iran would offer political support to Hamas, it would not “intervene directly.”

The Iranian leader reportedly asked Haniyeh to “silence those voices” in Hamas who are calling for Iran and Hezbollah to directly join the war against Israel “in full force.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-khamenei-told-haniyeh-that-iran-will-not-directly-enter-war/

Better than nothing, I suppose.
What if they're supplying weapons/ammo/vehicles , though ?
That's "intervening", imo.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Better than nothing, I suppose.
What if they're supplying weapons/ammo/vehicles , though ?
That's "intervening", imo.

Everything going through Rafah crossing is inspected. Can things get through via tunnels? I don’t know. Egypt, supposedly, destroyed the tunnels going there.

Egypt says it destroyed more than 3,000 Gaza tunnels

Some of the destroyed tunnels were three kilometers long and 30 meters deep.

www.jpost.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

Sky News’ data and forensics unit have investigated what happened to Kibbutz Be'eri and has identified more than 80 civilians who died there.It was targeted by Hamas in a widespread attack on 7 October that left 1,200 Israelis dead.Read here https://trib.al/WcQ7t9V

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724683654155182145

 

[PapillonVert]

Report: Khamenei told Haniyeh that Iran will not directly enter war​

According to a report in Reuters, Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh earlier this month: You gave us no warning of your Oct. 7 attack on Israel and we will not enter the war on your behalf.

The Reuters report cites “three senior officials” as saying that Khamenei told Haniyeh that while Iran would offer political support to Hamas, it would not “intervene directly.”

The Iranian leader reportedly asked Haniyeh to “silence those voices” in Hamas who are calling for Iran and Hezbollah to directly join the war against Israel “in full force.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-khamenei-told-haniyeh-that-iran-will-not-directly-enter-war/

It’s interesting that Khomeini is denying knowing about 10/7. Is that consistent with what he’s said all along? There’s been so much reported about Iran being behind 10/7 that this was surprising to me. If Khomeini is lying about this, I wonder if it’s because this has not turned out the way Iran wanted either, and they are now trying to distance themselves.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Live update: White House says Hamas is violating rules of war by having its HQ in a hospital http://dlvr.it/SysvFJ

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724831529153736890

 

[margarita25]

Report: Khamenei told Haniyeh that Iran will not directly enter war​

According to a report in Reuters, Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh earlier this month: You gave us no warning of your Oct. 7 attack on Israel and we will not enter the war on your behalf.

The Reuters report cites “three senior officials” as saying that Khamenei told Haniyeh that while Iran would offer political support to Hamas, it would not “intervene directly.”

The Iranian leader reportedly asked Haniyeh to “silence those voices” in Hamas who are calling for Iran and Hezbollah to directly join the war against Israel “in full force.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-khamenei-told-haniyeh-that-iran-will-not-directly-enter-war/

I’ll believe it when I see it, jmo. I still think there is a good chance of further involvement, jmo, specifically on the cyber front. It might not be physically on the ground, but remember the prior threats “the likes of which has been never seen,” etc. They’re already knee deep, imo, supplying the weapons, etc.


Eta:

It’s interesting that Khomeini is denying knowing about 10/7. Is that consistent with what he’s said all along? There’s been so much reported about Iran being behind 10/7 that this was surprising to me. If Khomeini is lying about this, I wonder if it’s because this has not turned out the way Iran wanted either, and they are now trying to distance themselves.

Exactly, not buying it.

 

[Momoffourboys]

It’s interesting that Khomeini is denying knowing about 10/7. Is that consistent with what he’s said all along? There’s been so much reported about Iran being behind 10/7 that this was surprising to me. If Khomeini is lying about this, I wonder if it’s because this has not turned out the way Iran wanted either, and they are now trying to distance themselves.

Or maybe there’s $10 billion on the line. JMO

 

[margarita25]

Or maybe there’s $10 billion on the line. JMO

Hi Mo4B, could you please elaborate? Thank you.

Eta: you mean oil?

 

[Sundog]

It’s interesting that Khomeini is denying knowing about 10/7. Is that consistent with what he’s said all along? There’s been so much reported about Iran being behind 10/7 that this was surprising to me. If Khomeini is lying about this, I wonder if it’s because this has not turned out the way Iran wanted either, and they are now trying to distance themselves.

Standard behavior for Iran. They want their proxies to do the dirty work so they won't be directly attacked by military themselves. Even if it turned out the way they wanted it to, they would not want their fingerprints on it.

 

[Momoffourboys]

FBI director tells Congress:-
Hamas attack raised threat in US to whole other level-
Immediate concern - individuals + small groups will draw inspiration from war to attack US-
FBI not discounting possibility that Hamas may exploit conflict to attack US

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724822532207862182

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hi Mo4B, could you please elaborate? Thank you.

Eta: you mean oil?

Biden admin renews sanctions waiver giving Iran access to $10 billion from Iraq​

Biden admin renews sanctions waiver giving Iran access to $10 billion from Iraq

The Biden administration has extended a sanctions waiver that will grant Iran access to roughly $10 billion from Iraq in exchange for electricity purchases.

nypost.com

US renews waiver letting Iraq pay Iran for electricity

The United States has issued a new 120-day waiver allowing Iraq to pay Iran for electricity, U.S. officials said on Tuesday, stressing Tehran could only use the funds for humanitarian trade and seeking to blunt criticism of giving Iran the money.

www.reuters.com

US extends sanctions waiver allowing Iraq to buy electricity from Iran

The Biden administration has extended by four months a sanctions waiver that will allow Iraq to continue to purchase electricity from Iran

abcnews.go.com

 

[dotr]

'Jun 8, 2016
Footage has surfaced of one of the most unsettling kindergarten graduation ceremonies ever. Young children in Gaza are shown re-enacting terrorist training activities, demonstrating how young people are being indoctrinated over there.'

' Jul 19, 2021 #christiannews #christian #christianity
When summer camp for kids comes to mind you might think of swimming, boating and hiking. Summer camp in the Gaza Strip is more like a military boot camp.'

 

[margarita25]

FBI director tells Congress:-
Hamas attack raised threat in US to whole other level-
Immediate concern - individuals + small groups will draw inspiration from war to attack US-
FBI not discounting possibility that Hamas may exploit conflict to attack US

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724822532207862182

YEP.

 

[Cryptic]

Sad and yes sickening.
He's protected now from Hamas and there is no excuse.
Didn't the Gazan doctors take the Hippocratic oath as well ?

It might not be that sickening in actuality.

Hamas, Narco Cartels, Wager Mercenaries etc. dont really play that fair. I wonder where the Doctor's family is? Are they also protected? Likewise, what about extended family?

The reality is that groups like Hamas often have a "Must be guilty by association" clause in their "constitutions". Likewise, they tend to skip out on "Presumed Innocent". "Cruel and unusual punishment" is not forbidden. Rather, its the norm.

I have no idea as to the Doctor's circumstances. He might be deceptive. Then again, nice things like Hippocratic Oaths don't really mean much when say, "irate" people from Hamas or the Zeta Cartel show up at your sister's home.

 

[Arkay]

Head of @USAIDWBG during the 2014 war, @Dave_Harden
(good man), says head of the Red Cross was aware at the time that Hamas was using ambulances to transport its terrorists—and said nothing. Gross negligence.

His conclusion is simply not fair- at all.

Being brave is far easier said than done. Though many people feel that they would automatically do "A", "B" and "C" when faced with danger, the reality can be very different.

Crossing Mafia power groups such as Hamas, narco cartels, IRA / Protestant rivals, Wagner Mercenaries etc. when they have enough power to be "running the show" locally can be extremely dangerous.

Needless to say, these groups dont play fair. If they can't get to the "snitch", they get to his family. If both the snitch and family are out their zone of control, they get to somebody locally that he or she cares about.

"Get to" does not mean "egged house". The Northern Ireland rivals favored "knee capping" for mild punishment. Beating to death in "romper rooms" was for "traitors". Wagner has a "sledge hammer until dead" method of traitor control. Hamas favors a spectacle of beaten, then shot, then drug by motorcycle, then "strung up" on display. Cartels are, well, extreme- even by standards of their uhhmm...."peers".

In the end, "gross negligence" is an easy term to use in this case. But... I wonder how brave Eylon Levy would be- in actuality, not by self proclamation?

I cannot agree with your conclusion.

I’m a lifelong New Yorker, I understand everything you’re saying about the Mafia and other illicit organizations and what payback truly entails.

I can agree that people can claim to be brave but falter when faced with the dire consequences inherent in confronting evil.

HOWEVER, as posted my @Momoffourboys, the person alluded to is the HEAD OF THE RED CROSS. Not some trembling underling.

If the HEAD of the RED CROSS finds himself too cowardly to perform his most basic function then he should be fired and IMO arrested. This dereliction of duty has led to many unnecessary deaths. He has been an ancillary to terrorism by failing to do his job and report what was truly happening.

I’m also unsure why the slap at Eylon Levy? He must have served his time in the military as an Israeli, and being a spokesman puts the spotlight on him for terrorists.

IMO

 

[sds71]

The Prime Minister's wife Sara Netanyahu confirms in a letter to the wife of US President Jill Biden: "One of the kidnapped women gave birth to her baby in the captivity of Hamas"

https://x.com/N12News/status/1724831737090314728?s=20

N12 - שרה נתניהו לג'יל ביידן: אחת החטופות ילדה בשבי חמאס

רעיית רה"מ: לפעול לאלתר למען שחרור החטופים

www.mako.co.il

 

[Momoffourboys]

U.S. Naval Ships in the Red Sea have reportedly Downed a number of Drones launched by the Houthis in Yemen towards Southern Israel.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724835316027035819

 

[Momoffourboys]

YEP.

I know you’ve been expecting this warning.

 

[Vern]

Report: Qatari official says Hamas agrees to release 50 hostages in exchange for 3-day pause​

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-qatari-official-says-hamas-agrees-to-release-50-hostages-in-exchange-for-3-day-pause/

Very happy for the families of these 50 hostages ... if this goes through.

Very sad for those that will suffer longer as Hamas get 3 days to restock and reload.

It's just like giving a school shooter 3 days to get his/her cra* back together whilst the other hostages suffer. THAT would never be allowed to happen. Just imagine.

 

[margarita25]

'Jun 8, 2016
Footage has surfaced of one of the most unsettling kindergarten graduation ceremonies ever. Young children in Gaza are shown re-enacting terrorist training activities, demonstrating how young people are being indoctrinated over there.'

' Jul 19, 2021 #christiannews #christian #christianity
When summer camp for kids comes to mind you might think of swimming, boating and hiking. Summer camp in the Gaza Strip is more like a military boot camp.'

Yeah, these videos…

So it got me thinking. I think Israel will defeat Hamas in this round.

However, it brings to mind, now they are going to say Israel killed all these civilians and children, so there must be further, future retaliation, that maybe their goals, motivations, and resolve have been strengthened.

These kids will grow up with these thoughts in mind, and could ignite a further movement, new cell, whatever you want to call it.

In other words, we are possibly looking at the terrorists of the future. That even if Hamas is defeated in this round, I think it’s possible they will try to build back, with Israel’s retaliation being their further motivation. Some of their family members may have been killed in the strikes.

Not explaining myself well, just thinking out loud that this could continue for years and years. Soon these children will be teenagers, and adults.

Israel will have damaged all their infrastructure, etc., but I think it’s likely they will try to build back. They do have allies. They’re not just going to say ok it’s over. This is engrained in their blood and minds since childhood, obviously, and now as a result of Israel’s damage and fatal operations, specifically as related to their family members, this may provide more fuel for the fire in the long term future.