Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #12

[Vern]

Not sure that I consider arson and setting off explosives to be 'minor' offences.

 

[Friday Fan]

How all these terrorists' preparations were overlooked by Security Forces is a mystery to me

They were all happening literally behind a fence

JMO

I can understand not having intelligence on the planning, but the lack of border security is mind boggling.
They were always at the fence, rioting and throwing rocks.

 

[Vern]

How all these terrorists' preparations were overlooked by Security Forces is a mystery to me

They were all happening literally behind a fence

JMO

And underground.

BN wasn't popular on 7th October and is certainly less so now. The buck stops with him. His career in politics is done.

The inquirey will be interesting to see where the human failure happened and to ensure that it never hapens again.

 

[Vern]

I can understand not having intelligence on the planning, but the lack of border security is mind boggling.
They were always at the fence, rioting and throwing rocks.

Until they weren't.

As reported by women IDF troops.

And, what is that saying? "Here's your sign." Someone couldn't read. That's a HUGE failure.

Regardless, doesn't make the 7 October 2023 Massacre Israel's fault; that's still 100% on Hamas terrorists.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Penny Wong confirms Australia has issued 860 temporary visas to Palestinians

Some 67 individuals including Australians, permanent residents and their families crossed from Gaza into Egypt overnight.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Dotta]

"Australia issues 860 visas to Palestinians trapped in Gaza."​

Australia approves hundreds of visas for Palestinians

Hundreds of temporary visas have been issued to desperate Palestinians by the Australian Government.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

"Family of American orphan girl, 3, ​

who is expected to be among 50 hostages released by Hamas ​

hope she's home for her 4th birthday on Friday - after Israel approved​

'five-day' ceasefire deal that will see 150 Palestinian prisoners freed."​

American girl, 3, and two US women expected to be RELEASED by Hamas

Three-year-old Abigail Mor Edan is expected to be among the 50 hostages released by Hamas in the coming days. Her great aunt said they want her home for her fourth birthday on Friday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SouthAussie]

"Australia issues 860 visas to Palestinians trapped in Gaza."​

Australia approves hundreds of visas for Palestinians

Hundreds of temporary visas have been issued to desperate Palestinians by the Australian Government.

www.dailymail.co.uk

And ........ "1,793 visas were issued to Israeli citizens in the same period."

Penny Wong confirms Australia has issued 860 temporary visas to Palestinians

Some 67 individuals including Australians, permanent residents and their families crossed from Gaza into Egypt overnight.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[DFWNF]

Roger Waters is an Anti-Semite. MOO

Roger Waters defends using anti-Jewish slur after film ...​

US weighs in on Roger Waters antisemitism debate, says ...​

Roger Waters of Pink Floyd sent antisemitic emails, report ...​

Roger Waters's antisemitism focus of damning new ...​

Roger Waters Criticized For 'Desecrating' Anne Frank's ...​

Really, never heard that, thanks, one of my fav artists before hearing this, pros and cons of hitchhiking my fav album, saw Pink Floyd, and also saw him in concert for radio k.a.o.s. so very disappointing. Sickening.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

7m ago

Summary of the day so far​

It’s 1am in Gaza City and Tel Aviv. Here’s a recap of the latest developments:
(Snipped by me)
The Palestinian poet and author Mosab Abu Toha has been released after he was detained by Israeli forces along with scores of other Palestinian men trying to leave northern Gaza, according to his friends and Israeli officials.

Israeli cabinet approves deal for pause in fighting – as it happened

This blog is now closed.

www.theguardian.com

Good news about Mosab Abu Toha. Just spied that in amongst all the other developments in the update.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Lisa O'Carroll

The EU’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell has been told by the Palestinian Authority that 40% of housing has been demolished in Gaza.

After his four day trip to Israel, Palestine, Qatar, Bahrain and Jordan, he said he wanted to share his sense of “absolute urgency” in relation to the “dramatic situation in Gaza” and the “tenuous hope” about moving towards peace talks and enduring political solutions for the Middle East.

The figures from the Palestinian Authority “confirmed the worst fears” he said in relation to Gaza with Israelis indicating an intensification of military operations in the south of the Strip.

In a lengthy blog post, he also revealed that the Israel military had told him they plan to create a “small safe area along the sea in the southern part of Gaza” for the civilian population “in order to carry out the ground operations in the south” of the Gaza strip where more than 2m live.

“This did not reassure me about the future course of events if we fail to achieve a rapid and durable de-escalation of the military operations,” he said.

He said his meetings with hostage families had made it “fully understandable the shock that Israeli society suffered” after Hamas’s attack and underlined the “absolute urgency of moving forward”.

He said he raised the hostages with everyone he met.

Israel-Hamas war: son of senior Hezbollah lawmaker killed in strike on Lebanon border – as it happened

This blog has now closed. You can read our full report on the latest news here

www.theguardian.com

 

[Vern]

Some details on some of the prisoners pending release are starting to come out:

Among the female prisoners who are expected to be released - Isra Jaavis who tried to carry out an attack using a gas balloon in 2015, the bomb exploded in her car and she has been imprisoned in Israel ever since. She tried to be released by appealing to the court and her appeals were rejected for all the details

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The terrorist who tried to murder her teachers is "destined for release" - and will she be her neighbor again? "I'm shocked"http://tinyurl.com/2mm6k2pw

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Sentiments in Gaza regarding the ceasefire: Most seem not to care about the identities of the 300 prisoners being released by Israel and they view it mainly as efforts by Hamas to increase its popularity in the West Bank at the expense of the Ramallah Authority.

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[margarita25]

Bringing forward above video ICYMI, as I found it to be quite informative:

11 hours ago:

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[Vern]

Full list of Israeli-held prisoners to be released is published. Names, ages & offences list Example attached below.

***Note**** I had to hit the "translate" button 4 times before it did it.

https://www.gov.il/he/Departments/DynamicCollectors/is-db?skip=0

 

[Mex]

There is a long article here by The Guardian about the children who are arrested, and photos of the children throwing stones at Israeli tanks and being arrested.

There are some pretty horrible details about what can happen to some of them after that.

‘A hidden universe of suffering’: the Palestinian children sent to jail

I usually like to look at multiple sources, because the truth usually lays somewhere in the middle. imo
If you google "palestinian children jailed for throwing stones" a whole lot of articles come up from a wide range of publications.
.

Israeli children leave home at eighteen to be trained in warfare more sophisticated than throwing stones.

Snip
According to the Israeli Defense Service Law, which regulates duties and exceptions, all Israeli citizens who meet the conscription criteria are required to serve once they reach 18 years of age unless they qualify for any of the above-mentioned exemptions.

In 1949, after the founding of the State of Israel, the Defense Service Law gave the IDF the authority to enlist any citizen. Draftees would then be required to show up for the draft in accordance with the military's decision to enlist them.
Conscription in Israel - Wikipedia

 

[margarita25]

Some details on some of the prisoners pending release are starting to come out:

Among the female prisoners who are expected to be released - Isra Jaavis who tried to carry out an attack using a gas balloon in 2015, the bomb exploded in her car and she has been imprisoned in Israel ever since. She tried to be released by appealing to the court and her appeals were rejected for all the details

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The terrorist who tried to murder her teachers is "destined for release" - and will she be her neighbor again? "I'm shocked"http://tinyurl.com/2mm6k2pw

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Sentiments in Gaza regarding the ceasefire: Most seem not to care about the identities of the 300 prisoners being released by Israel and they view it mainly as efforts by Hamas to increase its popularity in the West Bank at the expense of the Ramallah Authority.

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Seems so unfair. These types of people being traded for innocent little children, etc. who did nothing wrong.

Of course it goes without saying it will be incredible to get these October 7 hostages home. Still, painful to watch that this is what has to happen for it to happen.

 

[Vern]

Israeli children leave home at eighteen to be trained in warfare more sophisticated than throwing stones.

Snip
According to the Israeli Defense Service Law, which regulates duties and exceptions, all Israeli citizens who meet the conscription criteria are required to serve once they reach 18 years of age unless they qualify for any of the above-mentioned exemptions.

In 1949, after the founding of the State of Israel, the Defense Service Law gave the IDF the authority to enlist any citizen. Draftees would then be required to show up for the draft in accordance with the military's decision to enlist them.
Conscription in Israel - Wikipedia

Colour me confused. What does that have to do with teaching hatred to children? Absolutely zero that I can discern.

 

[margarita25]

Full list of Israeli-held prisoners to be released is published. Names, ages & offences list Example attached below.

***Note**** I had to hit the "translate" button 4 times before it did it.

https://www.gov.il/he/Departments/DynamicCollectors/is-db?skip=0

View attachment 462954

Smdh

Ugh.

How many of these people are future Sinwars?



This has got to be painful for Israeli government/law enforcement.

Not to mention, this brings to mind how the victims of prisoners being released must feel.

Totally different situation, but it reminds me of the time when Hurricane Katrina wiped out the building were DNA evidence, etc. was being stored, and all the violent criminals/rapists got away scott free as a result.

 

[Dotta]

"British-Israeli whose father, 83, ​

is held by Hamas blasts 'psychological torture'​

of the terror group's partial hostage release and says she fears her parent won't​

'last much longer'."​

British-Israeli whose father is held by Hamas blasts terror group

Sharone Lifschitz has been waiting like the families of the other 239 hostages held for news of an agreement which will bring an end to their unbearable heartache.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Vern]

The volunteer of the logistics center of LHB 433 Royat Naor, who helps locate forgotten equipment, in a conversation with Barry: "It is impossible to find DNA, so we try to find remains to bring rest to the families. On Friday we discovered the remains of 5 bodies by the side of the road. The metal detectors found a phone, a watch and a necklace, and then we found bones."#סדריום
@kereneubach

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