Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #12

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I think many of those 25,000 likely have wives, children, parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc. We saw the reaction of the parents of one HAMAS fighter when he told them what he had just done.. elation, celebration, cheering him.. ugh So I'd say many of those 25,000 have at least 3-4 or more family members that support them.

Yeah, that recording got me. The monster is exuberant in his claims of killing 10 human beings, telling his parents to watch it all on his Whats ap page.....

God give me strength.

If my son were ever to call me with those claims..
I would tell him he needs a good lawyer, and to call me when his trial starts. Not praise him. But, that's just me..

MOO and Peace
 
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How are they going to blast the blast door? MOO

I’m surprised by this door thing, obviously if they could have blasted it already, they would have. But considering there could be hostages in there, or clues about the hostages…idk we can fly a man to the moon but they can’t get that door breached? Not faulting, of course, just saying, must be one hell of a door.
 
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Yeah, that recording got me. The monster is exuberant in his claims of killing 10 human beings, telling his parents to watch it all on his Whats ap page.....

God give me strength.

If my son were ever to call me with those claims..
I would tell him he needs a good lawyer, and to call me when his trial starts. Not praise him. But, that's just me..

MOO and Peace
You know I have a son in the military and even if he called me bragging about killing 10 people in a war, I'd feel uneasy and likely request he seeks some help. I don't think most are ever "excited" about having to kill anyone even the enemy in war. Look how many of our military veterans struggle with things they saw and did during war and I'd say nearly all of those things were justified during a time of war. Any human that celebrates killing others is not okay.

I recall feeling relieved when we got Bin Laden and when we got Saddam.. but I would still say those that had to kill those men still wouldn't be excited to be doing that. Relieved to not have a terrorist running loose anymore, but excited? It is still a life and it's sad that people behave in such terrorist ways that they need to be killed to prevent further destruction from them.
 
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I still can't believe I'm actually being asked questions, "Is it possible they were simply being transported for medical attention"? They were dragged at gunpoint.

The intellectual somersaults that people are prepared to make to deny Hamas' atrocities are truly impressive.

So obviously hostages are being dragged in that video, and there is undeniable proof that this hospital is a Hamas hub, but the man in the video with half his leg missing, wheeled in on a stretcher and taken to a different room, made me wonder if they were trying to get him treated, not out of kindness/humanity, but for the purpose of keeping him alive as as valuable hostage. With injuries/bleeding that extensive, this is extra “work” so to speak to treat, transport, and keep such a severely wounded hostage. Same thing with Hersh Goldberg-Polin after his arm got blown off. What did they do with Hersh?

Injured hostages of course require more care, and would be hard to move around, so why keep them alive to begin with, when they had so many others, and were perfectly fine with killing hundreds. Not explaining myself well, just trying to work out in my head what exaaaactly they are doing with these severely injured hostages.

Is it possible, and I think I mentioned this early on, would they possibly use them for blood, organs…Or would they be against having the transplanted blood or organs of a Jew? They don’t mind inserting their own body parts into them during sexual assaults…

What do you guys think they did with this injured man on the stretcher with half his leg missing. They could have just left him or killed him. Do we know who he is? Might he be an extra valuable hostage, soldier, etc., hence an effort to keep him alive? Do you think they transported him to another location, kept him alive and tried to “treat” him (cough) like they supposedly did Mia Schem in the video? Idk, the whole thing is weird to me.

From the beginning, I thought the elderly, severely injured hostages would not be preserved, due to the extra work, difficult mobility, then we saw seniors released, in apparently good health.
 
  • #405
I still can't believe I'm actually being asked questions, "Is it possible they were simply being transported for medical attention"? They were dragged at gunpoint.

The intellectual somersaults that people are prepared to make to deny Hamas' atrocities are truly impressive.

It took @WHO a total of 37 days to finally agree to facilitate the evacuation of the Shifa Hospital, despite Israel's repeated call to act to protect patients.

Their inaction only helped Hamas and endangered Palestinain civilians, as well as the hostages we now know where being held in the hospital.

They should have acted so much sooner. They must now speak out against Hamas.
Bbm.
Thanks for the link !
"Intellectual somersaults", aka deflection.
I think they know the truth.
And, "Denial" ain't just a river in Egypt.

The World Health Organization needs to step up , or they're going to look as though they're facilitating Hamas.
Not saying they are.
Any prevarication which sounds like stalling, makes me uneasy.
Only My Opinion.
 
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Maybe to show their supporters that even if they cannot "liberate" Gaza,
they can take "revenge" on Israel, so carried out attacks?
 
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27min ago

IDF: We questioned 300 terror operatives, others from Gaza willingly providing intel on Hamas

The IDF’s Military Intelligence Directorate’s Unit 504 — which specializes in HUMINT (human intelligence) — has questioned a total of some 500 Palestinians and has made millions of calls to civilians to evacuate northern Gaza since the beginning of the fighting in the Strip.

Dozens of Arabic-speaking Unit 504 soldiers are on the ground in the Gaza Strip, alongside the combat units, carrying out field interrogations and providing intelligence to forces. Unit 504 has doubled its personnel amid the fighting, and established a new sub-unit specifically for southern Israel.

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It says that the terror operatives and suspects provided the interrogators with the locations of Hamas tunnel networks and weapons depots, as well as detailing the terror group’s methods of operation, including their use of human shields.

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The IDF publishes three videos showing detainees detailing to Unit 504 interrogators Hamas’s use of hospitals for terror purposes. The men describe how they hid at Shifa and Rantisi hospitals, the Red Cross building, and other medical centers, while Hamas used the sites to fight against the IDF.

Unit 504 also has sources in the Gaza Strip that have been providing information that is translated into intelligence for the ground forces.

We received thousands of phone calls from [Palestinians willing to provide information] at a magnitude never before seen in the unit. It is evident that the residents of the Gaza Strip are not satisfied with the barbaric behavior of Hamas, the ordinary citizen understands that Hamas is bringing a disaster on the residents of Gaza that will be difficult for them to recover from,” the senior officer adds.

As part of the IDF’s efforts to evacuate Palestinians from northern Gaza amid the ground offensive, Unit 504 has made more than 30,000 calls, sent more than 10 million text messages, and more than nine million recorded messages to Gazan civilians. The IDF has also dropped some four million leaflets warning Palestinians of the dangers of staying in northern Gaza.

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Hamas even hid at the Red Cross building.
 
  • #411
Hamas even hid at the Red Cross building.

Is it just me?
Or, are many doubting the sincerity of International Agencies?

Why would ANY international agency, (with alphabets or not)
allow and hide the perpetrators of such evil?

Ponder away...
 
  • #412
Hamas even hid at the Red Cross building.
Poor wibble babies.
*sarcasm intended*
Their true cowardly selves are showing, it would appear.

It seems like in a group Hamas terrorists are more savage ?
Like when kids gang up on a lone victim ?

Although there are prob. plenty of psychopathic lone wolf types who act in a group or by themselves.

Eta : Some types may be drawn to Hamas not out of ideology, but because they have a compulsion to hurt and kill.... and Hamas provides them that opportunity ?
Omo.
 
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Is it just me?
Or, are many doubting the sincerity of International Agencies?

Why would ANY international agency, (with alphabets or not)
allow and hide the perpetrators of such evil?

Ponder away...

It's good that the world is now seeing how many of the international "humanitarian" agencies/NGO's are actually filled with people who have their own political agendas. There needs to be an investigation of these agencies and NGO's to root out the politics and make sure they are adhering to the mission of the organization, and in the mean time, we should freeze funding.
 
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As evidenced by the joyful celebrations of civilians as the dead and injured hostages were paraded through the streets of Gaza by the Hamas terrorists who launched the attack.

EXACTLY.

This, indeed, is the true poll…668 people maybe on paper, but practically the whole of Gaza celebrating, rejoicing, abusing the living and dead hostages—-THIS is the accurate, tangible reflection of how the majority of Gaza favorably views Hamas.

That, and the school curriculum and parental upbringing that has little boys practicing for warfare, and both boys and girls being indoctrinated from birth to hate Jews.

The TRUE poll.

IMO
 
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“Freedom fighters”

*WARNING: GRAPHIC: new footage of the #Hamas brutal massacre of October 7th. The execution of innocent young Israeli girls running and begging for their lives in one of the the kibbutzes near the border

 
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”Freedom Fighters” dropping bombs on innocent civilians.



And that’s the third time I’ve had to evacuate a TV interview in the middle because of a missile attack on Tel Aviv—this time a massive barrage at the whole of central Israel. With apologies to @News9Tweets in India

 
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