Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #12

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Translated from Hebrew by Google
Today at 20:00 (Israel time) I will screen at the UN the "film of horrors" from the massacre committed by Hamas. The event will be opened by Yif
@MosabHasanYOSEF
, "the son of Hamas", whose father was one of the leaders of the terrorist organization and is intimately familiar with the Nazi ideology of Hamas. This is expected to be the largest screening that has taken place to date and over 300 ambassadors, diplomats, senior UN officials and Jewish leaders are expected to attend the event. In my speech, I will emphasize that there is no point in the existence of the United Nations if, on International Children's Day, all discussions do not open with condemnation of Hamas, which commits one of the most serious war crimes in history and holds dozens of babies and children hostage.Watch live the first part of the event in which Musab
Hasan Yosef, the "Green Prince", will share his story >>

 
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“Freedom fighters”

*WARNING: GRAPHIC: new footage of the #Hamas brutal massacre of October 7th. The execution of innocent young Israeli girls running and begging for their lives in one of the the kibbutzes near the border


This was awful to watch. As all the many others I have seen.
And yet, I (we) will still be bombarded with the bleeding heart defenders of terror. IMO, As if, " Show me on the doll where oppression hurt you"...to these monsters.

IMO, There is NEVER a reason to hunt, chase, terrorize, rape, maim and murder thousands of innocent human beings. I don't care which side of a line you live on. I don't care about your history. Cram it!

Grrrr
 
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JERUSALEM — Israel’s military on Sunday released video of
what it said was a 55-meter section of a fortified tunnel running 10 meters beneath the Al Shifa Hospital complex in Gaza City, seeking to bolster its allegations that Hamas has used the largest medical center in the Palestinian enclave as a base for its military operations.

Red bolding mine.

IDF says it exposed tunnel under Al Shifa Hospital
Red bolding mine.


Several days earlier, the IDF had released what it said was the first batch of evidence, which included weapons and ammunition they said they found inside the hospital itself.
RBM. (red bolding mine)


Israeli army says it finds tunnel, weapons at Gaza's Al Shifa hospital.
RBM.

IDF publishes footage of what it says is Hamas tunnel at al-Shifa hospital.

RBM


Did Israel Find a Tunnel Under Al-Shifa Hospital ? What Video Shows

RBM.

Regarding the red bolded : There's a disturbing trend of wording, regarding the IDF being made to prove everything.
It may or may not be -- but some media (not all) seems slanted against Israel.

Why does Israel have to prove everything and Hamas doesn't have to do this ?

Instead, Hamas is taken at their word by many, including people abroad who are not there witnessing this conflict.
Hamas has not been called out by anyone other than Israel for claiming that the hospital was only used for medical purposes when there's evidence showing otherwise.

All that's needed is fair and impartial reporting and maybe this could change ?
Omo.
 
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1 \ An IDF official told reporters that Israeli intelligence has indications that morale among Hamas militants in Gaza, especially the northern parts, is at a very low point. The IDF official said the reason is a big number of Hamas field commanders who were killed
 
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JERUSALEM — Israel’s military on Sunday released video of
what it said was a 55-meter section of a fortified tunnel running 10 meters beneath the Al Shifa Hospital complex in Gaza City, seeking to bolster its allegations that Hamas has used the largest medical center in the Palestinian enclave as a base for its military operations.

Red bolding mine.

IDF says it exposed tunnel under Al Shifa Hospital
Red bolding mine.



Several days earlier, the IDF had released
what it said was the first batch of evidence, which included weapons and ammunition they said they found inside the hospital itself.
RBM. (red bolding mine)


Israeli army says it finds tunnel, weapons at Gaza's Al Shifa hospital.
RBM.

IDF publishes footage of what it says is Hamas tunnel at al-Shifa hospital.

RBM


Did Israel Find a Tunnel Under Al-Shifa Hospital ? What Video Shows

RBM.

Regarding the red bolded : There's a disturbing trend of wording, regarding the IDF being made to prove everything.
It may or may not be -- but some media (not all) seems slanted against Israel.

Why does Israel have to prove everything and Hamas doesn't have to do this ?

Instead, Hamas is taken at their word by many, including people abroad who are not there witnessing this conflict.
Hamas has not been called out by anyone other than Israel for claiming that the hospital was only used for medical purposes when there's evidence showing otherwise.

All that's needed is fair and impartial reporting and maybe this could change ?
Omo.

Who is running the media show?
BIG question. Keep your eyes open, and on the ball
 
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Who is running the media show?
BIG question. Keep your eyes open, and on the ball
IMO Israel can’t compete with Hamas propaganda machine. Israel doesn’t parade their dead and mutilated for the world to see. They honor and respect them and their families. While Hamas feeds photos to the media, and they, eat it up. Israel would never stoop so low. What has been released is an iota of the horrific atrocities.
 
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“Everyone saw, all the doctors... They all saw those hostages being manhandled into the hospital. This was an open secret”Israeli Government Spokesman Eylon Levy accuses doctors at Gaza’s al-Shifa hospital of knowing Hamas were using the hospital for military purposes

 
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Rsbm
We received thousands of phone calls from [Palestinians willing to provide information] at a magnitude never before seen in the unit. It is evident that the residents of the Gaza Strip are not satisfied with the barbaric behavior of Hamas, the ordinary citizen understands that Hamas is bringing a disaster on the residents of Gaza that will be difficult for them to recover from,” the senior officer adds.

Interesting.
 
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Must watch, imo
 
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I have wondered what the heck Hamas (realistically) thought they would achieve by committing such a massacre.
Their little rockets against the superior Israeli weaponry.

Maybe they hoped for this division that is being created? As if that may help their "cause"?
Maybe they hope their neighbours may step in and help them? I really don't understand what they hoped for.

Gershon Baskin said (in that video that has been posted) that he thinks Hamas did not anticipate such a big counter attack. He also thinks that Hamas will fight to the death, they have stated that.

imo
I don't think they were thinking of future consequences.
They were into the "shock and awe" of the moment.
They got a short-lived revenge.
They showed the world their true colors.
I personally think even Iran was disgusted.
I don't care what Iran's public reaction was.
Iran has it's own nefarious interests.

It showed that Gaza is run by an MS-13 type uncivilized gang.
Incapable of governing.
All they can do it terrorism.
They thought their "allies" would be impressed.
They showed their "allies", that any type of governing by Hamas would be nothing but chaos.
The Middle East seems to gravitate towards authoritarian type governments. Hamas is anything but.

All MOO....
 
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IMO Israel can’t compete with Hamas propaganda machine. Israel doesn’t parade their dead and mutilated for the world to see. They honor and respect them and their families. While Hamas feeds photos to the media, and they, eat it up. Israel would never stoop so low. What has been released is an iota of the horrific atrocities.
Moo....both sides are killing civilians..imoo.. neither side is righteous. Hamas killed about 2000? iDF killed about 10000+, so Israel is winning if death count is how wars are won.
Who's history do you not care about? Both sides speak of oppression....moo
 
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Translated from Hebrew by Google
Today at 20:00 (Israel time) I will screen at the UN the "film of horrors" from the massacre committed by Hamas. The event will be opened by Yif
@MosabHasanYOSEF
, "the son of Hamas", whose father was one of the leaders of the terrorist organization and is intimately familiar with the Nazi ideology of Hamas. This is expected to be the largest screening that has taken place to date and over 300 ambassadors, diplomats, senior UN officials and Jewish leaders are expected to attend the event. In my speech, I will emphasize that there is no point in the existence of the United Nations if, on International Children's Day, all discussions do not open with condemnation of Hamas, which commits one of the most serious war crimes in history and holds dozens of babies and children hostage.Watch live the first part of the event in which Musab
Hasan Yosef, the "Green Prince", will share his story >>


Thank you, thank you for this link!!
 
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Moo....both sides are killing civilians..imoo.. neither side is righteous. Hamas killed about 2000? iDF killed about 10000+, so Israel is winning if death count is how wars are won.
Who's history do you not care about? Both sides speak of oppression....moo

One side will not stop declaring DEATH TO JEWS/INFIDELS across the world. And, that one side will not even slightly entertain peace nor denounce terrorism. THAT side is not-humanity driven. How can anyone who wants to actually live in a world of peace stand with HAMAS?? THEY are representing Palestinians! How can anyone accept Palestinians as peaceful when DEMAND to KILL ALL JEWS/INFIDELS is the ONLY thing they care about??? Hamas is a guarantee of oppression for the entire world... what civilized mind can see this any other way???

ETA: I'd gladly link videos of the leaders of Hamas declaring all this but I've already linked them so many times I'm tired of it... and heaven knows everyone else is, too. But, please refer back if you missed them.
 
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Moo....both sides are killing civilians..imoo.. neither side is righteous. Hamas killed about 2000? iDF killed about 10000+, so Israel is winning if death count is how wars are won.
Who's history do you not care about? Both sides speak of oppression....moo
But only one side intentionally targets civilians. So, as such, I simply no longer am willing to hear complaints from Hamas and its supporters about their civilian deaths. They have chosen this path.
 
  • #437
I don't think they were thinking of future consequences.
They were into the "shock and awe" of the moment.
They got a short-lived revenge.
They showed the world their true colors.
I personally think even Iran was disgusted.
I don't care what Iran's public reaction was.
Iran has it's own nefarious interests.

It showed that Gaza is run by an MS-13 type uncivilized gang.
Incapable of governing.
All they can do it terrorism.
They thought their "allies" would be impressed.
They showed their "allies", that any type of governing by Hamas would be nothing but chaos.
The Middle East seems to gravitate towards authoritarian type governments. Hamas is anything but.

All MOO....
The original terrorists
 
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The original terrorists

Can you nor any other Hamas leader stop with I've got a burr under my butt because of Jews? Can no Palestinian stop with I must now rid the world of them... forever?! Seriously. It's 2023... and Palestinians have nothing to show for that DEATH to JEWS and INFIDELS chant... nothing but death. It's long past time to remove that old BS burr... LIVE and LET LIVE... aren't you tired of death??? No you obviously are not... because you won't even think of PEACE. It's a shameful representation, imo.

Can Palestinians form a government to actually protect their people and their land? That might be a good place to start after denouncing terrorism. Then they could do good for the people of Gaza.

imo
 
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The original terrorists
Why do we keep going back 75 years? We are discussing a war that was started by Hamas on October 7th.

By this "logic" I guess native Americans should get a free pass to rape, kill, and burn people alive.
 
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