Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #2

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There is no "live and let live" for some people. Groups like Hamas are merely pawns in the hands of a sinister, unseen force, bent on destruction...
I don't know if Hamas are pawns of anyone. They originate from the Muslim Brotherhood. They are sunni but have received lots of support from Iran regardless.
 
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From watching the Gaza life stream it seems as though HAMAS missile launching has diminished over the last 24 hours?

Is this being verified?

Could they be saving them all for a possible invasion?
The IDF said that, yes. But not because they’re running low. Simply to make the missiles last longer now that they see its going to take time.
 
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The Sunnis and the Shiites don't agree and have their own sets of violent behavior. imo

I don't know how many other Muslim sects are out there.

ETA: I don't think Muslims get along within their own religion AND the Muslim faith has been the fastest growing religion for years.
 
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Press release from the US state dept. more at link

Starting Friday, October 13, the U.S. government will arrange charter flights to assist U.S. citizens and their immediate family members who have been unable to book commercial transit and seek a safe means of departing Israel. From these locations, individuals will be able to make their own onward travel arrangements to the destination of their choice. These initial transportation options will be augmented in the coming days.

Link to the Crisis Intake form CACMS
 
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Yes, the Hamas charter does not allow anyone to speak against it.
What a truly sad existence they all must live. They sign up for a group that believes in eradicating another population entirely just because, they don't believe in peace, only want war and you can't speak against it either.

It's sad. It is a lack of hope. What a bleak existence to find strength in doing damage to others simply because they are of a different belief then you. Existing only to cause harm to others in order to feel successful?
 
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The Sunnis and the Shiites don't agree and have their own sets of violent behavior. imo
Yes.
There was even a war between Iraq and Iran.
 
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'Small children, hands tied in the back, and they were torched...the terrorists were sitting and eating while torching them' Yossi Landau, Commander in Zaka's rescue services, recounts the traumatic scenes he saw following the atrocities committed by Hamas in southern Israel





This interview did me in today. Its a Lot. Its heartbreaking. But needs to be seen, IMO
 
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Imagine if Mexico had a strong Anti-US terrorist group. And one day they sent in thousands of rockets on our southern border, and thousands of armed invaders on paragliders, and motorcycles and armed pickup trucks, which began killing families, kidnapping and raping women, killing babies, setting fires, and live-streaming the carnage?

I have no doubt that we'd bomb the He!! outta Tijuana---there'd be many civilian casualties but what else could we do in response? You cannot let your enemies think that you would not respond in kind. JMO
 
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Jewish BBC sports reporter quits his job because of broadcaster's refusal to call Hamas 'terrorists', as he slams 'unjustified' decision and says words have the power 'to fuel hate and put fuel on the fire'


It's good to see a young person (22 years old) with this kind of moral clarity.
 
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Of course, no question about it.

The longer the bombing, the less hostages to release. With no proof of life, it's a Catch 22 for both sides, imo.
 
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"I thought I was going to have to kill my kids myself, to stop them becoming prisoners" as his voice breaks. :(
"My son and my daughters had to see all of those bodies."
"I just grabbed my daughters and threw them on the ground, threw my body on top of them."

"We were so lucky, all our kids are alive."
 
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Sounds like a good day to stay home.

Sounds like have your essentials & food gotten now, don’t have to worry about that tomorrow.

Jmo
 
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`I sure hope that Hamas isn't putting it's own people in harms way because they know where the missiles are going. Israel is warning them to seek shelter, but what if it looks really good for Hamas to have plenty of women and children in the very places they know are going to be attacked. The point of warning them is give them time to seek cover. It sure would seem to get a lot of sympathy for Hamas if Israel was killing women and children. I wonder if a ground invasion is just the only way to ensure minimal deaths to the most vulnerable. I think it's more risky for the soldiers being asked to go in for sure, but there seems to be not level too low for Hamas to stoop. I'm concerned they are actually putting their own women and children in harms way to gather support for their cause by boasting the awful numbers.
 
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Hamas hints Iran, Hezbollah not involved in decision to attack Israel​


Joanna Walters

Hamas just gave unprecedented briefing in English to world media, via Telegram, the Guardian’s Jerusalem correspondent, Beth McKernan is reporting on the hop, via X/Twitter.

She says that the militant group that controls Gaza said that “the decision to launch a military operation was entirely Palestinian.”

The subtext appears to be that Hamas allies Iran and the Lebanese group Hezbollah were not involved in Saturday’s surprise and merciless assault on Israel by militants breaking out of Gaza to launch their attack.


Bethan also reports that Hamas made spurious claims that Israeli civilians weren’t deliberately targeted and that the attacks were aimed entirely at Israeli Defence Force (IDF) bases.


 
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Egypt urges Israel to stop air strikes near Rafah crossing​

Egypt has asked Israel to stop air strikes near the Rafah border crossing - which lies between Gaza and Egypt - after raids prevented normal operations there.

In a statement published earlier today on Facebook, the foreign ministry said the crossing remained open, but facilities on the Palestinian side had been "destroyed as a result of the repeated Israeli bombing, preventing it from operating normally".

It said countries and organisations can transport aid to Al-Arish International Airport in northern Sinai - and called for an end to air strikes so it could be repaired and function as a "lifeline" for Palestinians in Gaza,
Want to know more? Our Analysis Editor, Ros Atkins, explains more about the crossings into Gaza in this video: [At link].

 
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