Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #4
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“When you apply logic and think who would benefit from those very horrible images of children and civilians that were evacuating south and then they are apparently clearly dead, who stands to gain from that, only one organization: Hamas,” Conricus says during a Q and A session on X.
At least 70 people, most of them children, were killed in the strike, which occurred on a route that Israel said should be used for fleeing Gazans. Another 200 were injured.
Conricus says he expects the army will release proof of its claim in the coming hours or days.
“We can say clearly we did not try to strike anybody, any civilians in that area,” he says.
“I don’t think it is beneath Hamas even to kill Palestinian civilians if they think it will help them in the international arena, or to create support or to try to blame Israel,” he says, calling members of the group “subhumans.”
Hamas’s media office claimed cars carrying fleeing civilians were struck in three places as they headed south from Gaza City.
Israel has accused Hamas of attempting to keep Gazans from moving south in order to keep them as human shields or PR fodder.
IDF claims Hamas struck convoy of Gazans fleeing south Friday, killing 70
IDF spokesperson Jonathan Conricus says a strike on a convoy of Gazans fleeing to the southern part of the Strip Friday appears to have been a false flag operation carried out by Hamas.“When you apply logic and think who would benefit from those very horrible images of children and civilians that were evacuating south and then they are apparently clearly dead, who stands to gain from that, only one organization: Hamas,” Conricus says during a Q and A session on X.
At least 70 people, most of them children, were killed in the strike, which occurred on a route that Israel said should be used for fleeing Gazans. Another 200 were injured.
Conricus says he expects the army will release proof of its claim in the coming hours or days.
“We can say clearly we did not try to strike anybody, any civilians in that area,” he says.
“I don’t think it is beneath Hamas even to kill Palestinian civilians if they think it will help them in the international arena, or to create support or to try to blame Israel,” he says, calling members of the group “subhumans.”
Hamas’s media office claimed cars carrying fleeing civilians were struck in three places as they headed south from Gaza City.
Israel has accused Hamas of attempting to keep Gazans from moving south in order to keep them as human shields or PR fodder.
Too bad the Tory MP hasn't bothered to educate himself about International laws pertaining to fighting a war with terrorists.
I sure wish politicians would knock off the ridiculous rhetoric.
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Israel-Hamas war live updates: Foreign national Palestinians can cross from Gaza into Egypt on Monday, officials say (nbcnews.com)
9m ago / 7:30 PM PDT
"I wanted to tell Israel's leaders, 'We have your back,'" Schumer said. Romney called the violence in photos shown to him a "level of depravity you haven't seen since the Middle Ages."
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9m ago / 7:30 PM PDT
Senators express U.S. support to officials in Tel Aviv
Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Mitt Romney, R-Utah, talked to NBC News' Tom Llamas today in Tel Aviv about their meetings with Israeli officials."I wanted to tell Israel's leaders, 'We have your back,'" Schumer said. Romney called the violence in photos shown to him a "level of depravity you haven't seen since the Middle Ages."
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5:37 am
Reports and footage showed heavy strikes in Gaza overnight, many of them coming in quick succession.
Israel-Hamas war live: US sends second aircraft carrier ‘to deter hostile actions against Israel’; ground assault on Gaza looms (theguardian.com)
17m ago03.25 BST
Palestinians in Gaza said Israel’s bombing campaign overnight was the heaviest since it launched its retaliatory attacks last week, Reuters reports.
Bombardment was especially heavy in Gaza City, with airstrikes hitting the areas around two of the city’s main hospitals, they said.
Authorities in Gaza said at least 2,670 people had so far been killed by Israel’s retaliatory strikes, a quarter of them children, and nearly 10,000 wounded. Another 1,000 people were missing and believed to be under rubble.
Israel said to bomb dozens of Hamas sites in Gaza
Israel’s Channel 12 news claims Israel has carried out strikes on at least 50 sites in Gaza overnight, destroying lookout posts, command centers and missile launchers.Reports and footage showed heavy strikes in Gaza overnight, many of them coming in quick succession.
Israel-Hamas war live: US sends second aircraft carrier ‘to deter hostile actions against Israel’; ground assault on Gaza looms (theguardian.com)
17m ago03.25 BST
Palestinians in Gaza said Israel’s bombing campaign overnight was the heaviest since it launched its retaliatory attacks last week, Reuters reports.
Bombardment was especially heavy in Gaza City, with airstrikes hitting the areas around two of the city’s main hospitals, they said.
Authorities in Gaza said at least 2,670 people had so far been killed by Israel’s retaliatory strikes, a quarter of them children, and nearly 10,000 wounded. Another 1,000 people were missing and believed to be under rubble.
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I posted it here earlier today after the mods approved SFR as a legitimate source. SFR published it yesterday, but I awaited approval/authorizatio of SFR prior to posting today.
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Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #3
MK @dannydanon led a delegation of ambassadors on a tour of some of the parts of southern Israel most heavily targeted by Hamas. As Danon spoke with the delegation, a rocket attack began, and the conference rushed to the nearby bomb shelter...
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Israel-Hamas war live updates: Fears for civilians as 'next stages' of Gaza attack loom (cnn.com)
2 min ago
His remarks come after US President Joe Biden warned Israel against occupying the coastal enclave as it signals it is preparing for a ground invasion amid a spiraling humanitarian crisis.
In an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” that aired Sunday, Biden said it would be a “big mistake” for Israel to occupy Gaza.His comments amount to one of the few times the US president has called on Israel to use restraint in responding to the Hamas attacks that left 1,400 dead.
Michael Herzog, the Israeli ambassador to the US, told CNN on Sunday that Israel does not intend to occupy Gaza after the conflict ends.
“We have no desire to occupy or reoccupy Gaza. We have no desire to rule over the lives of more than 2 million Palestinians,” Herzog said.
Biden meanwhile, has called for the protection of civilians as the US has been working to alleviate shortages of food, water and gas.
Erdan said water has been turned back on in southern Gaza, but he didn't say if electricity was on for desalination.
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Israel "has no interest to occupy Gaza," UN envoy says
Israel "has no interest" in occupying Gaza but will do "whatever is needed" to eliminate Hamas, the country's ambassador to the United Nations said Sunday.His remarks come after US President Joe Biden warned Israel against occupying the coastal enclave as it signals it is preparing for a ground invasion amid a spiraling humanitarian crisis.
In an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” that aired Sunday, Biden said it would be a “big mistake” for Israel to occupy Gaza.His comments amount to one of the few times the US president has called on Israel to use restraint in responding to the Hamas attacks that left 1,400 dead.
Michael Herzog, the Israeli ambassador to the US, told CNN on Sunday that Israel does not intend to occupy Gaza after the conflict ends.
“We have no desire to occupy or reoccupy Gaza. We have no desire to rule over the lives of more than 2 million Palestinians,” Herzog said.
Biden meanwhile, has called for the protection of civilians as the US has been working to alleviate shortages of food, water and gas.
Erdan said water has been turned back on in southern Gaza, but he didn't say if electricity was on for desalination.
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The official could not publicly discuss internal deliberations about the potential presidential travel and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu invited Biden for a solidarity visit Sunday, a Netanyahu aide told The Times of Israel earlier.
A trip would be a chance for Biden to personally affirm to the Israeli people the US is standing firm behind them. But it would come amid growing fears that a looming Israeli move into Gaza could spark a wider war with devastating humanitarian consequences.
Biden’s presence could be seen as a provocative move by Hamas’ chief sponsor, Iran, or potentially viewed as tone-deaf by Arab nations as civilian casualties mount in Gaza. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has already been traveling around the Mideast this past week trying to prevent the war with Hamas from igniting a broader regional conflict.
Biden considering trip to Israel in coming days, official says
US President Joe Biden is considering a trip to Israel in the coming days but no travel has been finalized, a senior administration official says. It would be a powerful symbol of sympathy and support following the brutal attack by Hamas.The official could not publicly discuss internal deliberations about the potential presidential travel and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu invited Biden for a solidarity visit Sunday, a Netanyahu aide told The Times of Israel earlier.
A trip would be a chance for Biden to personally affirm to the Israeli people the US is standing firm behind them. But it would come amid growing fears that a looming Israeli move into Gaza could spark a wider war with devastating humanitarian consequences.
Biden’s presence could be seen as a provocative move by Hamas’ chief sponsor, Iran, or potentially viewed as tone-deaf by Arab nations as civilian casualties mount in Gaza. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has already been traveling around the Mideast this past week trying to prevent the war with Hamas from igniting a broader regional conflict.
Thanks ! I missed part of that.I posted it here earlier today after the mods approved SFR as a legitimate source.
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Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #3
MK @dannydanon led a delegation of ambassadors on a tour of some of the parts of southern Israel most heavily targeted by Hamas. As Danon spoke with the delegation, a rocket attack began, and the conference rushed to the nearby bomb shelter...
Absolutely disgusting. Giving children no chance to grow up safely.
Again, those people are cannon fodder.
I think many, esp. children, have no choice.
Omo.
'There is no safe space left in Gaza' - Save the Children
Gabriella Waaijman, Humanitarian Director at Save the Children has described how difficult the situation is in Gaza for her staff.Many of the organisation's staff have left their homes and she says there is very little she can do to help them while they remain inside Gaza.
“One of my colleagues told me today that he is losing hope and that his dream is just to wake up with his children still in his arms,” she told the BBC.
Waaijman said that there is no safe space left in Gaza and her organisation is concerned that any further escalation will have dramatic consequences on it inhabitants.
The organisation is massing supplies on the border with Egypt, should the border reopen and aid be allowed in. But with the recent bombing of the area, challenges remain.
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Five Canadans have been killed in the violence between Israel and Hamas, the Canadian government has confirmed, according to Canadian media.
Three Canadians are still missing, CTV News reported, citing Julie Sunday, Global Affairs Canada’s assistant deputy minister for consular security and emergency.
“It has always been a possibility that missing persons would be confirmed deceased ... It is an extremely tragic outcome,” Sunday said, announcing the fifth death. “Our thoughts are with the families in all of these cases.”
“We are very focused on addressing the cases of the three missing persons, who we continue to try to locate and bring back to safety in Canada.”
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Five Canadans have been killed in the violence between Israel and Hamas, the Canadian government has confirmed, according to Canadian media.
Three Canadians are still missing, CTV News reported, citing Julie Sunday, Global Affairs Canada’s assistant deputy minister for consular security and emergency.
“It has always been a possibility that missing persons would be confirmed deceased ... It is an extremely tragic outcome,” Sunday said, announcing the fifth death. “Our thoughts are with the families in all of these cases.”
“We are very focused on addressing the cases of the three missing persons, who we continue to try to locate and bring back to safety in Canada.”
Israel-Hamas war live: Biden says Israel occupation of Gaza would be ‘big mistake’; 24 hours’ more fuel at Gaza hospitals, says UN
US president says he is ‘confident’ Israel will act under the rules of war; Thousands of patients at risk in Gaza, says UN humanitarian office
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No they haven't (just teetering on the edge internally), but I'd wager that Taiwan and Hong Kong could tell you all about what neutrality and fairness mean to the Red Regime.
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These confiscated weapons are only 20% of the ones used by Hamas to kill Israelis.
In order to prevent further attacks, the IDF will see to the removal of Hamas’ terrorist infrastructure and weapon manufacturers in Gaza.
In order to prevent further attacks, the IDF will see to the removal of Hamas’ terrorist infrastructure and weapon manufacturers in Gaza.
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The lengths Hamas is willing to go in order to commit war crimes are visible even from outer space.
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Israel-Hamas war live updates: Foreign national Palestinians can cross from Gaza into Egypt on Monday, officials say (nbcnews.com)
20m ago / 8:02 PM PDT
The boy, Wadea Al-Fayoume, age 6, was stabbed 26 times yesterday in his family's home in Plainfield. His mother also was stabbed and critically wounded.
The family's landlord, Joseph Czuba, 71, has been charged with first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder and two counts of committing a hate crime.
"The child’s Palestinian Muslim family came to America seeking what we all seek—a refuge to live, learn, and pray in peace," the statement said. "This horrific act of hate has no place in America, and stands against our fundamental values: freedom from fear for how we pray, what we believe, and who we are."
20m ago / 8:02 PM PDT
Biden expresses shock at Muslim child's stabbing death in Illinois
Biden said tonight in a statement that he and first lady Jill Biden were "shocked and sickened" by the murder of a young Palestinian Muslim immigrant in his home in Illinois.The boy, Wadea Al-Fayoume, age 6, was stabbed 26 times yesterday in his family's home in Plainfield. His mother also was stabbed and critically wounded.
The family's landlord, Joseph Czuba, 71, has been charged with first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder and two counts of committing a hate crime.
"The child’s Palestinian Muslim family came to America seeking what we all seek—a refuge to live, learn, and pray in peace," the statement said. "This horrific act of hate has no place in America, and stands against our fundamental values: freedom from fear for how we pray, what we believe, and who we are."
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16 October 2023 02:27, UK
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Israel-Gaza latest: Rafah border crossing set to reopen this morning; Hamas commander 'killed', says Israel
The border crossing between southern Gaza and Egypt is expected to reopen this morning to allow foreign nationals to leave, and humanitarian aid to enter, according to Sky News' US partner NBC News. While on the border with Lebanon, tensions between Hezbollah and Israel are escalating.
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The opening will allow foreign nationals to exit the beleaguered enclave while allowing in humanitarian goods.
Israel has in recent days agreed to ease its siege on the Strip imposed in the wake of the October 7 massacres. On Sunday, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the crossing would be opening, but did not say when.
6:18 am
A ball of fire and smoke rise above buildings during an Israeli strike on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip, on October 15, 2023. (SAID KHATIB / AFP)
Israeli airstrikes overnight constituted the heaviest sorties since fighting began last week, Reuters reports, citing Palestinians on the ground.
The report claims bombardments were most intense in Gaza City, where bombs struck areas near two hospitals.
Israel is thought to be readying a ground invasion of the Strip.
Rafah crossing to open at 9 a.m. — report
The Rafah border crossing from Gaza into Egypt is set to open at 9 a.m. today, NBC News reports, citing Kamel Khatib, a representative for the Palestinian embassy.The opening will allow foreign nationals to exit the beleaguered enclave while allowing in humanitarian goods.
Israel has in recent days agreed to ease its siege on the Strip imposed in the wake of the October 7 massacres. On Sunday, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the crossing would be opening, but did not say when.
6:18 am
Overnight strikes said to be heaviest yet
A ball of fire and smoke rise above buildings during an Israeli strike on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip, on October 15, 2023. (SAID KHATIB / AFP)
Israeli airstrikes overnight constituted the heaviest sorties since fighting began last week, Reuters reports, citing Palestinians on the ground.
The report claims bombardments were most intense in Gaza City, where bombs struck areas near two hospitals.
Israel is thought to be readying a ground invasion of the Strip.
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''Warning - this story contains descriptions and pictures of a graphic nature
We've been travelling to the many different scenes where Hamas fighters carried out their terror attack on Israel this week, and it is becoming clear that their tactics and levels of brutality changed from location to location.
In the attack on the Nova music festival, for example, the gunmen abducted some of the partygoers, and then murdered many more, spraying them with gunfire and throwing grenades into places they were hiding.
The hiding places included toilets, dirt bins, cars, and bomb shelters.''
''In the various kibbutzim they attacked nearby, their behaviour descended to a whole new level of depravity.
They didn't just kill - they took their time. They bound families, tortured them, and eventually murdered them.
This is something fundamentally different to the behaviours of Hamas we have seen in the past.
I've met Hamas on many occasions and interviewed their fighters.
They were always much more like a militia at war with Israel, rather than bloodthirsty killers and torturers.
Something has changed.''
Israel-Gaza latest: Rafah border crossing set to reopen this morning; Hamas commander 'killed', says Israel
The border crossing between southern Gaza and Egypt is expected to reopen this morning to allow foreign nationals to leave, and humanitarian aid to enter, according to Sky News' US partner NBC News. While on the border with Lebanon, tensions between Hezbollah and Israel are escalating.
news.sky.com
We've been travelling to the many different scenes where Hamas fighters carried out their terror attack on Israel this week, and it is becoming clear that their tactics and levels of brutality changed from location to location.
In the attack on the Nova music festival, for example, the gunmen abducted some of the partygoers, and then murdered many more, spraying them with gunfire and throwing grenades into places they were hiding.
The hiding places included toilets, dirt bins, cars, and bomb shelters.''
''In the various kibbutzim they attacked nearby, their behaviour descended to a whole new level of depravity.
They didn't just kill - they took their time. They bound families, tortured them, and eventually murdered them.
This is something fundamentally different to the behaviours of Hamas we have seen in the past.
I've met Hamas on many occasions and interviewed their fighters.
They were always much more like a militia at war with Israel, rather than bloodthirsty killers and torturers.
Something has changed.''
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You forgot Gallipoli, his biggest disaster.
My opinion - and I consider Churchill one of the finest minds of the XX century - he was gifted at everything, but was a lousy naval commander.
You forgot Gallipoli, his biggest disaster.
My opinion - and I consider Churchill one of the finest minds of the XX century - he was gifted at everything, but was a lousy naval commander.
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Even in Brazil, local citizens understand that #Hamas_is_ISIS. On Sunday, a demonstration in support of Israel took place in Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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