Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #5

[JennieM]

2m ago
Dharna Noor

Following an outdoor rally, thousands of protesters flooded the inside and outside the US Capitol calling for the US to facilitate a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Hundreds were arrested, according to activists.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714721786770645387

The action was planned by Jewish Voice for Peace and If Not Now, two Jewish-led organizations fighting for Palestinian liberation.

Activists wore shirts that read “Ceasefire now,” and held signs that read: “Jews say stop genocide of Palestinians.”

Egypt’s president agrees to open the Rafah crossing – as it happened

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[cottonweaver]

What I don't understand is GB holds FB and X accountable for false reporting, but the BBC is allowed to report false narrative. Moo

GB doesn't hold Facebook or X accountable in any real way, it hasn't even put the Online Harms Bill through legislation. Who's said that it does?

It's the EU that's threatening to enforce by telling X to demonstrate compliance with the DSA.

Where is all this BBC stuff coming from when most of the people who agree with your tweet won't watch BBC reporting?

Are we now going to claim that reporters from US & UK TV news shows are to blame for curtailing Biden's trip or events on the streets on Lebanon or Jordan?

 

[Chimera]

ITA. I applaud Abrams and Mediaite for stating the obvious. They are now calling out U.S. politicians for trying to fuel the rhetoric fire with misinformation.

JMO

Rashida Tlaib Ignores, Runs Away From Reporters Asking Her About Statement Blaming Israel For Gaza Hospital Strike

Rashida Tlaib ignored reporters confronting her over her erroneous statement blaming Israel for an attack on a hospital in the Gaza Strip Wednesday.

www.mediaite.com

“Israel just bombed the Baptist Hospital killing 500 Palestinians (doctors, children, patients) just like that,” wrote Tlaib on X. “@POTUS this is what happens when you refuse to facilitate a ceasefire & help de-escalate. Your war and destruction only approach has opened my eyes and many Palestinian Americans and Muslims Americans like me. We will remember where you stood.”

Wait for the facts first ?

Yes, that's a thing.
Omo.

 

[cottonweaver]

state department and its unpopular opinions?, around an hour ago

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714734353048076778

 

[cottonweaver]

20 trucks
2.2 million people?
How many foreigners will be able to come through? I don't know

Hopefully it's just the first of many

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714746018820972913

 

[Arkay]

The bodies of Erick Peretz and his daughter Ruth who has cerebral palsy, were found today. They have been missing since the Nova music festival on October 7th. They were brutally murdered by Hamas terrorists. May their memory be a blessing.View attachment 454245

https://x.com/Israel/status/1714719198633406491?s=20

All of these deaths at the festival tear my heart, but this one really shreds me.

Here is a daughter who cannot dance, but whose father took her to a music and dance festival anyway, I presume so she could have some fun listening to music and enjoying the atmosphere.

What a good dad.

How evil Hamas is to destroy a crippled young girl who was no threat to them whatsoever.

I can’t discern her age but to me she looks like a teenager? I think?

 

[Sincerely]

Do people just want to be oppositional? Is this why I see so many people against Israel? I know we’re watching the same stuff? We’ve heard the same stories. We all know who started this on October 7, 2023. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Israel is being hated so fiercely right now. Their response is BECAUSE war came to them from hateful, soulless terrorists who are not for anyone but themselves and to feed their evil. Where’s the worldwide hate for Hamas? For the disgusting, cowardly, evil things they’ve done to innocent people. It’s just not adding up for me except that people just want to be oppositional or controversial.

 

[JennieM]

4m ago
Here’s a bit more from Joe Biden, who spoke to reporters after his call with Egypt’s president, Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi.

The US president said he spoke with Sisi after his visit to Israel, where leaders there agreed to allow the aid in.

Biden, speaking to reporters on Air Force One during a refueling stop in Germany on his way back to the US from Tel Aviv, said the Egyptian leader was “completely cooperative”.

President Sisi “deserves some real credit because he was accommodating,” he said.


13m ago
The White House has released a statement following a call between the US president, Joe Biden, and his Egyptian counterpart, Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi.

The two leaders “discussed ongoing coordination to deliver humanitarian assistance to Gaza and mechanisms to ensure the aid is distributed for the benefit of the civilian population”, it said.

The two leaders agreed to work together closely on encouraging an urgent and robust international response to the UN’s humanitarian appeal.
They agreed on the need to preserve stability in the Middle East, prevent escalation of the conflict, and set the circumstances for a durable, permanent peace in the region.

17m ago

Biden: Egypt's Sisi has agreed to open Rafah crossing for 20 trucks​

Egypt’s president, Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, has agreed to open the Gaza border crossing to allow in 20 trucks with humanitarian aid, Joe Biden has told reporters.

Biden said:

Sisi deserves some real credit because he was accommodating.

Egypt’s president agrees to open the Rafah crossing – as it happened

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www.theguardian.com

 

[JennieM]

We'll get people out - Biden vows​

Speaking to journalists aboard Air Force One, President Biden has described President Sisi as "completely cooperative".

He also spoke about Israel's right to defend itself, saying “Israel has been badly victimised but the truth is they have an opportunity to relieve suffering of people who have nowhere to go … it’s what they should do".

“If you have an opportunity to alleviate the pain, you should do it."

Biden was defiant in vowing to get "people out" but he wouldn't share further details.

At least 199 hostages are believed to be held captive by Hamas in Gaza, following the attack on Israel on 7 October.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67141589

 

[JennieM]

1 min ago

Family still hasn't heard from Israeli man who was fishing with friend the morning of attacks​

From CNN’s Jessica Xing

An Israeli man who was fishing on a beach north of Gaza with his longtime friend on the morning of the October 7 attacks has still not been in contact with his family.

The family last heard from Danil Kimenfeld after the attacks started and he told them he was going to a shelter, his son Igor Kimenfeld told CNN on Wednesday.

“He called my brother to tell him that we are going to a shelter so don’t be worried if you can’t reach him,” Kimenfeld said.

Kimenfeld, who is a US citizen and lives in New Jersey with his wife, said he traveled to Israel on Monday. He said they haven’t received any information from police and instead got “rumors, gossip that there were 60 fishermen around Zikim [beach], most of them found dead except a few who managed to run away.”

Friends of Danil Kimenfeld went to the beach and found his car riddled with bullets and all the fishing gear still in car, his son said.

Igor Kimenfield hopes his father made it to a shelter but he doesn’t know.
Kimenfield gave a DNA sample as part of the search for his father, but was told it didn’t match any of the dead, he said.

“No one is giving us answers,” Kimenfeld said. “When we call, it sounds like we are bothering someone.”

Kimenfield described his father as the "anchor" of the family.
“I admire everything about him he is very easy person to love, he was funny, he is super social,” Kimenfeld said of his father.

“I’m trying to be as fun and social and as a great person as he is, very giving and reaching out,” he added. “He was the anchor not only to our family but to the whole distant family.”

The Israelis have responded heroically to such a brutal tragedy, Kimenfeld told CNN.
“The people here are extremely strong. Everybody here knows someone who lost someone,” he said.

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as President Biden visits Tel Aviv

During a high-stakes trip to Israel, US President Joe Biden urged the region to seek peace and not to be "consumed" by rage as violence continues in the aftermath of Hamas' attacks and Israel's subsequent response. Follow here for live updates.

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[cottonweaver]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714747972280361430

constructive comments on the Rafah exchange

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714749224485560804

 

[Sundog]

yes but it's not state-funded and it's funded directly by households, by people who watch TV
There is no advertising on any of the channels. No advert breaks
You don't need to be paying income tax as a criteria- don't need to be ' be a taxpayer'

Which nation are you in Sundog?

yes but it's not state-funded and it's funded directly by households, by people who watch TV
There is no advertising on any of the channels. No advert breaks
You don't need to be paying income tax as a criteria- don't need to be ' be a taxpayer'

Which nation are you in Sundog?

I didn't realize that the BBC was a pay-per-view station by viewers' subscriptons. I thought it functioned like the CBC (Candian Broadcasting) and PBS in the U.S. (Public Broadcasting). CBC in Canada and PBS in the U.S. receive government funding, that is why they have no advertisements, they don't need private funding. To fill in the gaps and get extra funding for some of their initaitives, they do have regular funding events/drives and also accept donor funds of a large scale by corporations, etc. But the government still funds them, with taxpayer money. Not sure where else the government would get money to fund programs other than from taxes.

 

[JennieM]

Biden visit boosts Israel, but also reinforces Arab anger​

Barbara Plett Usher
US State Department correspondent

Reuters

Even more than Joe Biden’s emotional words of support, the photo of him hugging the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has placed him solidly in Israel’s corner at the most explosive moment in its war with Hamas.

No matter who fired the rocket which killed hundreds of people at the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza, this image will reinforce Arab anger not only towards Israel, but the United States.

Even though the US president has negotiated access for desperately needed aid into the besieged enclave, his visit will tie him to the results of Israel’s military campaign there.

Protesters in Arab capitals have already accused Washington of giving Israel a green light.

Some are chanting “Death to America,” including in Bahrain, a close American ally and one of only two Arab states to explicitly condemn the Hamas attack.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67141589

 

[Inthedetails]

I didn't realize that the BBC was a pay-per-view station by viewers' subscriptons. I thought it functioned like the CBC (Candian Broadcasting) and PBS in the U.S. (Public Broadcasting). CBC in Canada and PBS in the U.S. receive government funding, that is why they have no advertisements, they don't need private funding. To fill in the gaps and get extra funding for some of their initaitives, they do have regular funding events/drives and also accept donor funds of a large scale by corporations, etc. But the government still funds them, with taxpayer money. Not sure where else the government would get money to fund programs other than from taxes.

FWIW, the bulk of PBS funding is from donors and "viewers like you" (to use the PBS tagline). The government provides a much smaller fraction.

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[cottonweaver]

Biden visit boosts Israel, but also reinforces Arab anger​

Barbara Plett Usher
US State Department correspondent

View attachment 454272
Reuters

Even more than Joe Biden’s emotional words of support, the photo of him hugging the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has placed him solidly in Israel’s corner at the most explosive moment in its war with Hamas.

No matter who fired the rocket which killed hundreds of people at the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza, this image will reinforce Arab anger not only towards Israel, but the United States.

Even though the US president has negotiated access for desperately needed aid into the besieged enclave, his visit will tie him to the results of Israel’s military campaign there.

Protesters in Arab capitals have already accused Washington of giving Israel a green light.

Some are chanting “Death to America,” including in Bahrain, a close American ally and one of only two Arab states to explicitly condemn the Hamas attack.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67141589

I wonder if the intended audience for that state department tweet is not domestic and not Israel?
( It's a few posts back on this thread. Could it be a smart move for the ME audience?)

 

[dotr]

Oct 18, 2023 #israel #gaza #skynews
What really happened at the al Ahli hospital in Gaza - Sky's Data and Forensics correspondent Tom Cheshire analyses the latest data. Local officials in Gaza say 471 people were killed in the blast - a figure which has been called into dispute since the bombing.

Oct 18, 2023
(Video from IDF social media) The social media account of the IDF released a recording of alleged Hamas terrorists stating that they believe their own missile hit a Gaza hospital.

 

[SouthAussie]

I didn't realize that the BBC was a pay-per-view station by viewers' subscriptons. I thought it functioned like the CBC (Candian Broadcasting) and PBS in the U.S. (Public Broadcasting). CBC in Canada and PBS in the U.S. receive government funding, that is why they have no advertisements, they don't need private funding. To fill in the gaps and get extra funding for some of their initaitives, they do have regular funding events/drives and also accept donor funds of a large scale by corporations, etc. But the government still funds them, with taxpayer money. Not sure where else the government would get money to fund programs other than from taxes.

It is not so much pay-per-view as it is funded by the mandatory TV license that all British households, businesses, and venues who own and watch a TV must pay. And that means watching any TV at all, not just BBC TV.

It is considered a hypothecated tax ... meant for a specific purpose, the purpose of funding the BBC.

imo

 

[Teche]

Ed Conway Sky

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714541482458091815

Hopefully, the US government will allow for deepwater drilling. Many of our major oil companies weren't drilling much in the Gulf of Mexico due to regulations. My son is a deepwater drilling engineer.

 

[Arkay]

from the post by @cottonweaver :

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Former Global Engagement Director to the White House @BrettBruen says it was a "major misstep" for Egyptian, Palestinian and Jordanian leaders to cancel their proposed summit with President Joe Biden last night.



I agree with the above.

Getting a U.S. President safely into and out of a very combustible war zone is no easy task, and I doubt will be repeated.

I am so glad Biden met with Netanyahu, but this was an enormous and likely singular opportunity to make some headway through this turmoil by meeting with Arab leaders.

Unfortunately IMO the Arab world clung to Hamas’ declaration that the hospital was bombed by Israel. Now that the facts are known, that it was done by Islamic Jihad, when will this opportunity arise again?

Likely never, or at least not for now when it is imperative.

JMO

 

[Momoffourboys]

Jonathan Conricus

@jconricus

Despite this clear US statement, I'm still getting questions from some US media for additional "evidence" to substantiate our claims.
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Mark Warner

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The Senate Intelligence Committee reviewed intelligence related to the attack on al-Ahli hospital in Gaza. Based on this information, we feel confident that the explosion was the result of a failed rocket launch by militant terrorists and not the result of an Israeli airstrike.

https://x.com/jconricus/status/1714747826511454632?s=20