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Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7
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Many people have expressed shock at the depraved behaviour of Hamas on 7 October.
It is indeed shocking, but not in the least surprising.
Did you pay attention in 2016 when Hallel Ariel, just 13 years-old, was knived to death in her bed?
Did you pay attention in 2011 when the Fogel family - the mother, father, and three children - were murdered with gunfire and knives? Hadas, the youngest, was a three-month-old infant. She was decapitated.
What about in 2017 when Yosef Salomon, and his daughter Chaya and son Elad, were murdered in a knife attack by Palestinian terrorists in their home in Halamish?
What did you make of the murder of Tali Hatuel and her four daughters in 2004? She was eight months pregnant when terrorists approached her car and sprayed death on all inside.
Were you disgusted in 2018, Kim Levengrond Yehezkel was tied up by a Palestinian terrorist and murdered in cold blood?
What did you think when three Israeli youths were kidnapped in 2014? Their lifeless bodies were discovered two weeks later, dumped in a shallow grave near an Arab town.
Or what about Ori Ansbacher, who was abducted, raped brutally and murdered in 2019? She went to find some peace and quiet surrounded by nature and never came back.
Maybe you don't remember the murder of Shalhevet Pass in 2001? Jews can't forget her. She was a ten-month-old baby. A Palestinian sniper shot her dead in her carriage. A court concluded that the shot was taken deliberately.
Perhaps you didn't hear about the murder of Esther Horgan in 2020. Her crime? Going out for a jog. Her Palestinian murderer clubbed her to death with a rock.
If you don't remember that, you almost certainly won't recall what happened on Thursday, January 17, 2002. On that day, a Palestinian gunman entered a Bat Mitzvah celebration in Hadera and killed six people, wounding 33.
And that's without addressing the abduction of civilians and soldiers in the Gaza Strip. We still await news on the situation of the mentally ill Avera Mengistu, who crossed into the Gaza Strip in 2014, was interrogated by Hamas, and was never seen again.
So what exactly is shocking? Surely not the type of evil. We've seen wanton murder and butchering before. We've seen rape before. We've seen people bludgeoned to death and lynched before.
There are many, many more attacks like the ones listed here. These are just the ones that come to mind.
No, what's shocking is the extent. The sheer scale. It's the sudden demonstration of what happens when Hamas is able to do as it pleases. It acts with savagery on a massive scale.
So don't be shocked.
The warning signs were there, long, long ago.
(Pictured: Ori Ansbacher, 19. Her rapist-murderer identified with Hamas. At his trial, he said: "Raping and murdering a Jew is the most important thing I've done in my life.")
It is indeed shocking, but not in the least surprising.
Did you pay attention in 2016 when Hallel Ariel, just 13 years-old, was knived to death in her bed?
Did you pay attention in 2011 when the Fogel family - the mother, father, and three children - were murdered with gunfire and knives? Hadas, the youngest, was a three-month-old infant. She was decapitated.
What about in 2017 when Yosef Salomon, and his daughter Chaya and son Elad, were murdered in a knife attack by Palestinian terrorists in their home in Halamish?
What did you make of the murder of Tali Hatuel and her four daughters in 2004? She was eight months pregnant when terrorists approached her car and sprayed death on all inside.
Were you disgusted in 2018, Kim Levengrond Yehezkel was tied up by a Palestinian terrorist and murdered in cold blood?
What did you think when three Israeli youths were kidnapped in 2014? Their lifeless bodies were discovered two weeks later, dumped in a shallow grave near an Arab town.
Or what about Ori Ansbacher, who was abducted, raped brutally and murdered in 2019? She went to find some peace and quiet surrounded by nature and never came back.
Maybe you don't remember the murder of Shalhevet Pass in 2001? Jews can't forget her. She was a ten-month-old baby. A Palestinian sniper shot her dead in her carriage. A court concluded that the shot was taken deliberately.
Perhaps you didn't hear about the murder of Esther Horgan in 2020. Her crime? Going out for a jog. Her Palestinian murderer clubbed her to death with a rock.
If you don't remember that, you almost certainly won't recall what happened on Thursday, January 17, 2002. On that day, a Palestinian gunman entered a Bat Mitzvah celebration in Hadera and killed six people, wounding 33.
And that's without addressing the abduction of civilians and soldiers in the Gaza Strip. We still await news on the situation of the mentally ill Avera Mengistu, who crossed into the Gaza Strip in 2014, was interrogated by Hamas, and was never seen again.
So what exactly is shocking? Surely not the type of evil. We've seen wanton murder and butchering before. We've seen rape before. We've seen people bludgeoned to death and lynched before.
There are many, many more attacks like the ones listed here. These are just the ones that come to mind.
No, what's shocking is the extent. The sheer scale. It's the sudden demonstration of what happens when Hamas is able to do as it pleases. It acts with savagery on a massive scale.
So don't be shocked.
The warning signs were there, long, long ago.
(Pictured: Ori Ansbacher, 19. Her rapist-murderer identified with Hamas. At his trial, he said: "Raping and murdering a Jew is the most important thing I've done in my life.")
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First off a Slate opinion piece?
So about the beheaded babies. I don't know how to state this in a delicate manner.
**Warning graphic***
Babies along with their parents were burned - there is plenty of unbiased evidence of this. Where an adult body may hold together a bit, babies necks are not that strong. I can see in a burning that the head can become separated from the body and depending on position may be even be found away from the body.
I can see were a reporter viewing this thinking that the baby was beheaded. By definition the babies were decapitated "Decapitation is the total separation of the head from the body. "
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Documenting the attacks. There are 6 more locations that were attacked and are not yet updated on Wiki.
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This survivor references “six year old” Hamas.
Incredible story (in a bad way). They all are.
Eta: yeah @Vern, I am reminded of Nazi Germany and the children trained.
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This survivor references “six year old” Hamas.
Incredible story (in a bad way). They all are.
Eta: yeah @Vern, I am reminded of Nazi Germany and the children trained.
Quick ref:
Indoctrinating Youth
The Nazi Party targeted German youth as a special audience for its propaganda messages. Read more about the indoctrination of youth.
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Because:
Polls Show Majority of Gazans Were Against Breaking Ceasefire; Hamas and Hezbollah Unpopular Among Key Arab Publics
Recent Washington Institute polls have tracked Gazans’ views on Hamas and the ceasefire with Israel, along with a wider regional decline in popularity for Hamas and Hezbollah.
Conclusion: Gazans prefer Fatah, but they still support Hamas at a 57% rate.
Date of this poll: July 2023
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Indeed.
That, and to relocate sensitive weaponry and rocket launching sites, with which to resume their attacks on Israel.
I don't think they'll ever stop unless completely eradicated and their tunnels destroyed.
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Hamas is closer to our homes than you think.
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Hamas would love to have a pause.
They would be able to move stockpiles of rockets into firing areas, establish new firing locations and prepare IED's for deployment against an IDF assault into Gaza.
Hamas needs to surrender before any pause/ceasefire will be reasonable or possible. JMO.
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Pause: Not formal & short term - usually a specified time period for a specific reason. IE: a tactical pause of 48hours to alow in humantitarian aid.
Cease-fire: Formal agreement to cease firing at each other while "peace talks" happen.
Truce: Formal stoppage of firing as a formal agreement has been reached.
Best (and shortest) truce that I can think of:
The Christmas Truce of 1914 - History - Christmas at the Front - Remembering those who served - Remembrance - Veterans Affairs Canada
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You mean to locate them? I don't know.
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