Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

[PapillonVert]

Ok. Well then what should be done? Should we sit back and look away while they continue to grow their terrorist network until they are big enough to terrorize more parts of the world?? Should Israel live in constant fear of being slaughtered, beheaded, limbs broken, eyes gouged out, pregnant women having babies cut out of their stomachs, being burned to death, raped so violently bones are broken - some women rapped TO DEATH, etc. Sometimes evil masses need to be culled. Hamas is one of them. If we do nothing…they grow. They have long been indoctrinating school age children and turning them into evil killers as they grow up. Nobody likes war. Not one person here. Nobody likes civilian deaths (except the terrorist groups). We can’t completely cut off their money, they are funded by private donors, other countries, lots of ways money is coming in, but we can cut their lives down and show them that the world will not let them continue their terror.

I thought alot of that was debunked weeks ago?

Hi, can you clarify which part you thought was debunked?

If you are referring to the atrocities the OP listed that were committed by Hamas, it is pretty well documented that those things happened. The terrorists wore Go Pro cameras and recorded much of their terror. These cameras were found on the bodies that were recovered by the first responders. Moreover, there are videos of interrogations of Hamas soldiers, in which they have admitted to the vile acts that were listed here. Not to mention a lot of photographic evidence. So in my opinion, I don’t think it was debunked. A lot of those videos and testimonies were linked here in this thread.

 

[Vern]

This here is a good read. This site provides statistics since 2008. Its crazy to see the two numbers

Data on casualties

Crazy numbers.

Imagine how much better off the Palestinian civilians in Gaza would be if that terrorist network, Hamas, didn't build tunnels unders their homes, hospitals, schools, mosques and churches (war crimes) thse making those places legitimate military targets. Nor place missile launch sites and weapons storage in, under, & on same places. By their own count, Hamas cost them 300-500 lives (not even close to being true) just the other day by misfiring one of their 'dumb' rockets right into the midst of their own hospital.

1 in 5 are crashing down and exploding right into their own turf. How many are dying in their hospitals right now because of lack of fuel, water etc while Hamas refuses to pull some up from their tunnel depots for Gaza Palestinians?

Numbers are numbers, but facts are facts ... the current -show happening in the Gaza has one reason and one cause: Hamas is 100% responsible.

 

[MothMothison]

Hi, can you clarify which part you thought was debunked?

What Dehumanization Has Wrought

 

[PapillonVert]

What Dehumanization Has Wrought

I would suggest taking a read through this thread. I would do a search for south first responders, and you can see for yourself.

 

[margarita25]

I thought alot of that was debunked weeks ago?

What was debunked?!!

 

[Momoffourboys]

Senior Hamas leader says hostages will be freed if Israel stops striking Hamas targets​

Meshaal also falsely stated that civilians weren't killed by Hamas's military wing al-Qassam Brigades on October 7.​

Hamas leader says hostages freed if Israel stops striking Hamas targets | The Jerusalem Post

Meshaal also falsely stated that civilians weren't killed by Hamas's military wing al-Qassam Brigades on October 7.

www.jpost.com

 

[margarita25]

 

[PapillonVert]

What Dehumanization Has Wrought

I edited my post after posting it, so I’m not sure if you saw this part, so I’ll paste it here as well:

If you are referring to the atrocities the OP listed that were committed by Hamas, it is pretty well documented that those things happened. The terrorists wore Go Pro cameras and recorded much of their terror. These cameras were found on the bodies that were recovered by the first responders. Moreover, there are videos of interrogations of Hamas soldiers, in which they have admitted to the vile acts that were listed here. Not to mention a lot of photographic evidence. So in my opinion, I don’t think it was debunked. A lot of those videos and testimonies were linked here in this thread.

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716974971220615387

 

[Vern]

Senior Hamas leader says hostages will be freed if Israel stops striking Hamas targets​

Meshaal also falsely stated that civilians weren't killed by Hamas's military wing al-Qassam Brigades on October 7.​

Hamas leader says hostages freed if Israel stops striking Hamas targets | The Jerusalem Post

Meshaal also falsely stated that civilians weren't killed by Hamas's military wing al-Qassam Brigades on October 7.

www.jpost.com

That's not going to happen.

 

[margarita25]

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I recommend this video, filmed directly via Hamas, iirc:

WARNING extremely graphic

https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1713368767235838164?s=20

 

[Gypsy Road]

I thought alot of that was debunked weeks ago?

What part was debunked?

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716981650880643289

 

[Vern]

Gen. Eric Smith, the Marine commandant, in a strong message to anyone thinking about targeting the Marine expeditionary unit being deployed near Israel:“For those that are in the area, if that MEU has to go in, if you target them, someone else will raise your children!”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716983256342528388

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716536352223732131

 

[Vern]

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It was bad enough that Israel just had to pull in all the emdia to show them 45 minutes of unedited footage of these atrocities happening in real time.

South First Responders has already be refrred to you for a thread search here. Seek and Ye shall find. After viewing their go-pros etc, you'll not be able to 'deny' again.

 

[MyBelle]

Don’t Blame Gazans for Hamas The terrorist group has never been very popular among the people

A good, well researched read.

An excellent read! Thanks for the link. I've shared it.

JMO

 

[Vern]

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Any of the links below will give you direct access to Hamas' Go-Pro footage and that of security/traffic cams in Israel on October 7th, 2023 - a day that actually happened BTW.

If you don't have an account, you can scroll to the bottom for preview access. Beware - there's some nasty footage in there (beheading with garden hoes, rape, torture etc)

South First Responders

Channel for footage from first responders in the Gaza envelope that are arriving first to areas clear from Hamas.

t.me

South_First_Responders (عربي)

قناة تنشر فيديوهات صورت في غلاف غزه بعد تطهير المنطقة من قوات حماس. المواد مجانية الاستخدام، ولكن يرجى منح الفضل لـ "South First Responders".

t.me

South First Responders Français

Canal pour images téléchargées par les premiers arrivants au sud d’Israël, après avoir été dégagé du Hamas. Avertissement : contenu graphique.

t.me

 

[Gypsy Road]

'Never seen such barbarity': the grim task of Israel's forensics teams

The stench of death is overwhelming in Israel's National Center of Forensic Medicine, where experts have been trying to identify the remains of hundreds of people slain in the Hamas attacks.

www.france24.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

Capture of Civilians, Soldiers After Hamas Attack on Israel​

The Israeli military said soldiers and civilians had been captured and taken into Gaza. There were also Israeli hostages being held by militants in at least two Israeli towns amid ongoing battles with militants, the authorities said. Photo: Hatem Ali/Associated Press

Capture of Civilians, Soldiers After Hamas Attack on Israel

The Israeli military said soldiers and civilians had been captured and taken into Gaza. There were also Israeli hostages being held by militants in at least two Israeli towns amid ongoing battles with militants, the authorities said. Photo: Hatem Ali/Associated Press

www.wsj.com