Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

[PommyMommy]

Can any form of ground penetrating radar be used against these tunnels ?

Challenge in Gaza with Hamas's underground tunnels is unique - expert | The Jerusalem Post

Tunnel network includes 1,300 tunnels, spanning approximately 500 kilometers in total, with some of the tunnels located up to 70 meters underground.

www.jpost.com

Experts say it's difficult to locate the tunnels as they might be built beneath various structures, but there are different ways to identify them, such as using ground-penetrating radar and techniques to measure magnetic, thermal, and acoustic fingerprints. However, most of these tunnels are revealed through human intelligence, according to a 2017 conference by the RAND Research Center on the subject.

 

[Sundog]

Radar barrier could detect Gaza tunnels, experts say

US has used ground-penetrating radar to look for tunnels at home and abroad; experts call it best hope for Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

This article is from 2014, but it describes some of the ground penetrating radar technology that is being experimented with related to tunnels at the U.S. border with Mexico and with the DMZ zone between North and South Korea, also on Israel's southern border with Gaza (note: the technology still in progress).

 

[Momoffourboys]

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad​

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted​

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted

www.ynetnews.com

 

[PommyMommy]

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad​

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted​

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted

www.ynetnews.com

Oh my God. I cannot even imagine.

 

[PommyMommy]

The Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Eric M. Smith stated yesterday during a 40th Anniversary Memorial Service for the Beirut Barracks Bombing which Killed 241 U.S. Servicemembers, regarding the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit which is currently in the Middle East and may be used if the War in Israel continues to Escalate, “I’ll be Less Diplomatic and more Marine-Like. For those that are in the Area, if that MEU has to go in and you Target them, someone else will Raise your Children.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716987125030113586

 

[Vern]

Can any form of ground penetrating radar be used against these tunnels ?

Did you see the from-the-sky XRays of the Mosque in the West Bank that had all the weapons stored in it's kindergarten?

I know they also have motion sensors in the ground to sense digging/movement in tunnels as well. There was an article posted by someone a couple pages back that showed a member of the IDF exiting a tunnel ... the article talks about this.

 

[MyBelle]

I guess journalists could just NOT report things they can't verify. They all want to be first and to have a story. Waiting until things are verified would prevent the spread of many false things, but they can't help themselves. They don't have to publish anything.. they have a choice and they choose to publish it and then make it someone else's fault?

I think journalists have been there for days so they can verify for themselves. NBC has multiple reporters there, including anchor Lester Holt. They are shooting their own video as well as providing updates online.

JMO

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna121849

 

[PommyMommy]

4min ago

Australia sends troops, transport aircraft to aid citizens in Middle East​

Australia says it is sending troops and two military transport aircraft to the Middle East as concern grows for Australian citizens in the region.

Defence Minister Richard Marles says a “significant number” of troops was being sent but declined to give the number. Two C-130J Super Hercules aircraft had also been deployed.

Marles, who is also deputy prime minister, would not say where the aircraft and troops would be based.

The planes will add to a C-17A Globemaster heavy transport aircraft and a KC-30 air refueller already in the area.

“The point of this is to provide support to Australian populations who are in the Middle East if this gets worse,” Marles tells public broadcaster ABC.

[...]

 

[Vern]

An excellent article from 2 days ago that I don't recall seeing posted up in here:

Squad of female IDF combat troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists

Lt.-Col. Or Ben Yehuda, Caracal Battalion, praises her troops' bravery against Hamas, silencing doubts about female combat soldiers with their training, heroism, and life-saving actions.

www.jpost.com

 

[PommyMommy]

Israel-Hamas war live: Hundreds killed in past day by Israeli airstrikes, Gaza health ministry reports; UN chief calls situation ‘more dire by the hour’ (theguardian.com)
39m ago14.55 AEDT

On Tuesday the friends and family of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel mourned their loss at Gan Shlomo cemetery. The pair were killed during Hamas’ 7 October attack on kibbutz Be’eri.

Israeli soldiers carry a coffin draped with the Israeli flag during the funeral of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel. Photograph: Petros Giannakouris/AP

Avida Bachar, who was injured in the attack on the kibbutz, weeps. Photograph: Shir Torem/Reuters

Friends and family pay their respects. The family chose to bury Carmel with his favourite surf board. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images

Family and friends weep at the graveside. Photograph: Petros Giannakouris/AP

 

[Momoffourboys]

Israel-Hamas war live: Hundreds killed in past day by Israeli airstrikes, Gaza health ministry reports; UN chief calls situation ‘more dire by the hour’ (theguardian.com)
39m ago14.55 AEDT

On Tuesday the friends and family of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel mourned their loss at Gan Shlomo cemetery. The pair were killed during Hamas’ 7 October attack on kibbutz Be’eri.

Israeli soldiers carry a coffin draped with the Israeli flag during the funeral of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel. Photograph: Petros Giannakouris/AP

Avida Bachar, who was injured in the attack on the kibbutz, weeps. Photograph: Shir Torem/Reuters

Friends and family pay their respects. The family chose to bury Carmel with his favourite surf board. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images

Family and friends weep at the graveside. Photograph: Petros Giannakouris/AP

So much grief.

 

[mickey2942]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/24/middleeast/queen-rania-jordan-amanpour-interview-intl/index.html

Interesting. The hypocrisy is glaring. The world condemns Israel for protecting their homeland. And yet has stayed silent while Russia has attacked and decimated Ukraine, stolen children, and has been working on complete annihilation of the Ukrainian people in the largest scale ethnic cleansing program since the war in Bosnia.

 

[PommyMommy]

OCT 19, 2023

Former CIA Director gives WINK News insight into Israel and Hamas conflict

The former director of the CIA, Porter Goss, is watching what's happening and shared his thoughts with WINK News.

winknews.com

[...]

The former director of the CIA, Porter Goss, who is from Sanibel, is watching what’s happening and shared his thoughts with WINK News.

[...]

“... I mean, one of their rallying cries is death to Americans, of course, Death to the great Satan, all of that stuff. It’s propaganda, but they really mean it,” said Goss.

Goss served as the Director of the CIA under George W. Bush’s presidency. Goss told WINK News that’s what makes Hamas and the rest dangerous to us. He points to pro-Palestinian demonstrations in our country.

“What you’re seeing now, probably many well-intentioned people waving the Palestinian flag, who haven’t a clue what this is all about,” said Goss. “You don’t go around attacking other countries and killing innocent people.”

[...]

Importantly, 32 Americans have died in the war between Israel and Hamas with at least 11 more unaccounted for. There are also an unspecified number of Americans trapped in Gaza. ...

 

[margarita25]

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad​

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted​

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted

www.ynetnews.com

“8:00​

D’: "We continued toward Sderot Junction. We saw police at the junction shouting that there were wounded and terrorists. We saw vehicles at the bus stop. We got into the mobile shelters with freshly wounded people. I asked them if they could walk and they asked whether it was safe to walk. I said ‘Yes, the IDF is here. We’re here’. They ran toward the police and about 100 feet later, we saw terrorists. This was our first encounter with two of them. They had pistols and they threw a grenade at us. We killed them. We were now beginning to understand. We advance towards 232, to Kibbutz Mefalsim. I saw a car with a female civilian lying on the seat, on her stomach, killed. 15 feet on, we saw another car with a little girl – a baby – outside the car, shot dead. I realized this was serious.’

 

[MyBelle]

UNICEF weighs in.

Child casualties in Gaza “a growing stain on our collective conscience”

UNICEF is calling for an immediate ceasefire and for sustained and unimpeded access for humanitarian assistance

www.unicef.org

“The killing and maiming of children, abduction of children, attacks on hospitals and schools, and the denial of humanitarian access constitute grave violations of children's rights,” said Adele Khodr, UNICEF Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa. “UNICEF urgently appeals on all parties to agree to a ceasefire, allow humanitarian access and release all hostages. Even wars have rules. Civilians must be protected – children particularly – and all efforts must be made to spare them in all circumstances.”

 

[PommyMommy]

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad​

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted​

October 7: hour-after-hour diary of IDF commando squad

A full account from one fighting unit's actions and what horrors they encountered when they fought to defend Israelis brutally murdered, tortured and abducted

www.ynetnews.com

“8:00​

D’: "We continued toward Sderot Junction. We saw police at the junction shouting that there were wounded and terrorists. We saw vehicles at the bus stop. We got into the mobile shelters with freshly wounded people. I asked them if they could walk and they asked whether it was safe to walk. I said ‘Yes, the IDF is here. We’re here’. They ran toward the police and about 100 feet later, we saw terrorists. This was our first encounter with two of them. They had pistols and they threw a grenade at us. We killed them. We were now beginning to understand. We advance towards 232, to Kibbutz Mefalsim. I saw a car with a female civilian lying on the seat, on her stomach, killed. 15 feet on, we saw another car with a little girl – a baby – outside the car, shot dead. I realized this was serious.’

12:00​

“On the way, we pass the festival. No one could have imagined it like this. Someone threw out the number of 40 people abducted from the festival. These numbers turned out to be too low. What we saw was horrific. There were bodies strewn on the road and in the fields. It’s unfathomable. We saw policemen at the entrance to the festival who hadn’t managed to respond. They’d been shot. Pistols are no good against heavy machine guns. You just can’t respond to that.”

Z’: “There were burnt bodies, some lying on the road. There were forces at Be’eri, but we received a report saying there were no forces in Re’im. We’re constantly being urged to come. ‘You’re the force. There’s no one else here. Just come’."

D’: “In the Be’eri area, they captured four terrorists alive. They didn’t have guns. One had a knife. They held out when we interrogated them. I can’t say they were tough. They were as soft as margarine. From what we saw, they weren’t good fighters, but it was their sheer quantity and evil. That’s all there was there. A lot of people had been told to do whatever they wanted. Go enjoy yourselves. Enjoy the murder. And you can loot, too.”

 

[PommyMommy]

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war, Gaza deaths, António Guterres remarks (cnn.com)
13 min ago

US military advisers invoke lessons of Iraq in urging Israelis to avoid all-out ground assault in Gaza​

[...]

Instead of launching a full-scale ground assault on Gaza, which could endanger hostages, civilians, and further inflame tensions in the region, US military advisers are urging Israelis to use a combination of precision airstrikes and targeted special operations raids.

They are also drawing on strategies developed during the battle by US-led coalition forces to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from ISIS, which relied more heavily on special operations forces. Like Hamas, ISIS built tunnels throughout Mosul and used civilians as human shields, and the fight to retake the city was harder and more drawn-out than anticipated.

To help deliver this message, the Biden administration has sent a three-star Marine Corps general to counsel the IDF on planning its tactical assault. Gen. James Glynn, the former commander of Marine Forces Special Operations Command, has significant experience with urban warfare in Iraq, particularly in Fallujah, where he commanded troops during some of the bloodiest fighting there between US forces and insurgents, officials said.

Read the full story here.

 

[DeDee]

Oct. 25, 2023, 12:07 a.m. ET

“What we are seeing is the prospect for more significant escalation against U.S. forces and personnel across the region in the very near term coming from Iranian proxy forces, and ultimately from Iran,” Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, told NBC News.

The Pentagon has said the groups behind the attacks are supported by Iran and its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

24 American soldiers injured in drone attacks on US bases in Iraq, Syria: reports

 

[DeDee]

Israel-Hamas War Updates: Israel Reports Failed Incursion Near Gaza​

Biden speaks with Saudi crown prince about conflict, while U.N. chief presses for protection of civilians​

The Gaza Tunnel System That Israel is Targeting with map as of 2014

One of the hostages who was released recently by Hamas described being brought to a deep, wet underground network of tunnels, which she called a “spiderweb.”

 

[PommyMommy]

6min ago

Israel denying visas to UN officials after Guterres seemed to justify Hamas assault​

Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan says the country will deny visas to UN officials after remarks by Secretary-General Antonio Guterres that appeared to justify Hamas’s brutal assault on Israel.

“Due to his remarks we will refuse to issue visas to UN representatives,” Erdan tells Army Radio.

“We have already refused a visa for Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Martin Griffiths,” Erdan said. “The time has come to teach them a lesson.”

“It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum,” Guterres said at a UN Security Council meeting on the Israel-Hamas war, which erupted when the terror group ravaged Israeli border communities, killing some 1,400 people, the vast majority of them civilians.

5min ago

UN chief tries to walk back remarks justifying Hamas assault on Israel​

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres tries to walk back his remarks that appeared to justify Hamas’s deadly assault on Israel.

“The grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the horrific attacks by Hamas,” Guterres tweets, adding: “Those horrendous attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.”

Israel officials railed at Guterres after he told the UN Security Council, “It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum,” with many calling on him to resign.