Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

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D’: "We continued toward Sderot Junction. We saw police at the junction shouting that there were wounded and terrorists. We saw vehicles at the bus stop. We got into the mobile shelters with freshly wounded people. I asked them if they could walk and they asked whether it was safe to walk. I said ‘Yes, the IDF is here. We’re here’. They ran toward the police and about 100 feet later, we saw terrorists. This was our first encounter with two of them. They had pistols and they threw a grenade at us. We killed them. We were now beginning to understand. We advance towards 232, to Kibbutz Mefalsim. I saw a car with a female civilian lying on the seat, on her stomach, killed. 15 feet on, we saw another car with a little girl – a baby – outside the car, shot dead. I realized this was serious.’
I read this earlier. Just a little aside about his joke to the troop he came across walking up the road when he realized he was amoured but without a tank ...

I had a chuckle at this too. The informal Armoured Motto is "death before dismount" as they really hate walking and don't need to hump rucksacks like the rest of us in the army do as a matter of routine. I'm married to a tanker myself so immediatley understood where the 'funny' was in his joke and shared that bit of his diary with hubster who also got a chuckle.

One thing is certain for troops when the worst is happening all around ... the dark humour comes to the surface if only for that briefest of respite from the horror.
 
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Israel-Hamas war live: Gaza child death figures ‘staggering’, says Unicef; three reportedly killed in Israeli strike on West Bank (theguardian.com)
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UNRWA says operations will halt on Wednesday night due to lack of fuel​

The UN’s agency for the relief of Palestinian refugees last night warned it would be forced to halt its operations in Gaza due to a lack of fuel as of Wednesday night.

In response, Israel’s military posted a picture of what it said were fuel tanks inside Gaza. “They contain more than 500,000 liters of fuel,” it wrote. “Ask Hamas if you can have some.”

UNRWA’s director general Philippe Lazzarini had already warned on Sunday that the organisation’s fuel would run out on Wednesday.

“Without fuel, there will be no water, no functioning hospitals and bakeries. Without fuel, aid will not reach those in desperate need. Without fuel, there will be no humanitarian assistance. No fuel will further strangle the children, women and people of Gaza,” he said.

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Wow, this man makes a good point. He says, while speaking about the hostages released so far, (paraphrasing here), that re: the bs propaganda of Hamas trying to appear a certain way as caring for hostages, etc., the released hostages can not be outwardly too critical of their captors because they are still holding their family members…

Looking at the “handshake,” etc. with a new lens…

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Also, iirc, the Raanans still have 8 family members being held hostage.

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10/23/23

"Getting Judith and Natalie back, it is not the end. It is the beginning."


“But the nightmare is far from over as eight of their family members are still being held hostage by the Hamas militant group in Gaza. Three other relatives were killed. Ayelet and Or, who are siblings, are calling on the Israeli government to secure the release of the remaining hostages before launching a ground invasion into Gaza.”

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Thinking more about families being killed, grandparents, parents, kids…it’s like the Holocaust with generations being slaughtered.
 
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Israel-Hamas war live: Hundreds killed in past day by Israeli airstrikes, Gaza health ministry reports; UN chief calls situation ‘more dire by the hour’ (theguardian.com)
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On Tuesday the friends and family of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel mourned their loss at Gan Shlomo cemetery. The pair were killed during Hamas’ 7 October attack on kibbutz Be’eri.

Israeli soldiers carry a coffin draped with the Israeli flag during the funeral of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel, at Gan Shlomo cemetery, central Israel, Tuesday, Oct. 24, 2023. Carmel Bachar, 15-year-old and his mother Dana lived in kibbutz Be'eri, a small community with a little more than 1,000 people, that was one of more than 20 towns and villages ambushed on Oct. 7 as part of a surprise attack by Hamas militants against Israel where dozens were killed.(AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)'eri, a small community with a little more than 1,000 people, that was one of more than 20 towns and villages ambushed on Oct. 7 as part of a surprise attack by Hamas militants against Israel where dozens were killed.(AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

Israeli soldiers carry a coffin draped with the Israeli flag during the funeral of Dana Bachar and her son Carmel. Photograph: Petros Giannakouris/AP

Avida Bachar, Dana's husband and who was injured in the attack on the kibbutz and has since had his leg amputated, weeps.'s husband and who was injured in the attack on the kibbutz and has since had his leg amputated, weeps.

Avida Bachar, who was injured in the attack on the kibbutz, weeps. Photograph: Shir Torem/Reuters

Friends and family pay their respects. The family chose to bury Carmel with his favourite surf board.

Friends and family pay their respects. The family chose to bury Carmel with his favourite surf board. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images

Family and friends weep at the graveside.

Family and friends weep at the graveside. Photograph: Petros Giannakouris/AP


As his son was dying, he said he wanted to be buried with his surfboard:

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Friends and family pay their respects. The family chose to bury Carmel with his favourite surf board.


Friends and family pay their respects. The family chose to bury Carmel with his favourite surf board. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images
 
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Peter Lerner IDF was just interviewed on CNN about the gas situation in Gaza and stated that Hamas has plenty of fuel stored in Gaza to keep the hospitals going and why should Israel provide more gas when Hamas will not use it to help the civilians, but will use it to attack Israel. He also said that most of the hospitals in Gaza can run on solar power as solar panels were installed. Will post the interview when it pops up on CNN’s YouTube channel.
 
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Headlines and two full articles from CNN updates

Article: US law enforcement and intel agencies begin new effort to target Hamas' sources of funding​

WashingtonCNN —
US authorities have begun a new effort to target fundraising and other forms of support for Hamas, including any tentacles the terrorist group has into the United States, current and former US officials tell CNN.

The move is part of a broader reassessment ongoing in US intelligence and law enforcement agencies about the threat posed by Iranian terrorist proxies, including Hamas and Hezbollah, in the wake of the escalating violence in Israel and Gaza.

Hamas has long been known to have a network of supporters in the US that it uses largely for fundraising. But because the group has traditionally focused on attacking Israel, American authorities believed it was less likely to carry out attacks against US interests or on US soil.

US agrees to send two Iron Dome batteries to Israel​

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Palestinian American says his mother is "trapped in Gaza" with little food and water​


She was trapped in Gaza. She was 10 minutes away from getting out of the border, the Rafah border, on October 10, when the Israeli military struck down the Rafah border, shutting it and trapping 600 US citizens and hundreds of European and other international citizens," he said.

He questioned why the US government couldn't get its citizens out.

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UK discussing "humanitarian pauses" in Gaza but rejects ceasefire, official says​

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Hamas militants have stopped people from approaching Rafah border crossing at times, US State Department says​

US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller told CNN that the sporadic presence of Hamas at the Rafah border crossing has made the situation "extremely difficult," but Egyptians are ready to take in US citizens and foreign nationals who make it to their side of the border.

"At times, Hamas has had no one there manning the border station," Miller said about the crossing, where many remain stranded in Gaza. "At other times, we have seen Hamas militants actively there with guns preventing people from approaching the crossing."

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Article: US Jews, Palestinians and Muslims say they feel fear after slew of hate-inspired incidents​

There is a palpable fear and tension in communities across the United States already scarred by the violent incidents stemming from the early days of the Israel and Hamas war, with some equating the bigotry and hatred being experienced by Jews, Palestinians, Muslims and other groups across the country to that of a post-9/11 world.

“Every one of us feels unsafe,” said Zein Rimawi, founder and member of the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge in south Brooklyn, New York, where three young men were attacked by a small pro-Israel cadre only days after the war started. “It’s worse than after 9/11.”

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"Hamas is not a terrorist organization but a group for liberation," Turkish president says :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Cancels trip to Israel
Will not accept Palestinian refugees
 
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Early on (just after the Hamas massacre) I read that the U.S. would need to supply Israel with bunker-busters if Israel needed them.
My guess is that the days of "bunker busters" are, well, busted.

Professional armies and armed groups have known for over thirty years (since Gulf War 1) that any bunker short of NORAD is not safe from precision guided mega bombs. If anything, the war in Ukraine has reinforced that. Hezbollah and Hamas have gotten pretty sophisticated as far as miltiary training and tactics go.

In the end... My totally amateur guess is that Hamas is not hiding in bunkers waiting for a precision bunker buster to land on them. Rather, bunkers and tunnels are for hostages, not HAMAS.

Hamas could be scattered in groups of say, 10 in buildings all over the city. They move from location to location several times a day. Probably not good for sleep- nor for the innocent civilians around them. But... mobility may keep them alive.

Likewise, the HAMAS leaders in Gaza probably left their "Fuhrer Bunker" of WWII Hitler infamy a long time ago. They then jumped into non descript SUVs which change, and are moved around constantly. Nothing electronic goes into the SUVs. Rather, HAMAS leaders communicate by olde fashion pen and paper- and moped riding message runners.
 
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https://x.com/ELINTNews/status/1717217519306473908?s=20

Following reports of a statement to be made by Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu soon, the IDF spokesman will also make a statement at 20:15 local time (in ~45 mins)

Netanyahu confirms that there will be an Israeli ground invasion of the Gaza Strip with two goals:
1. Destroy Hamas
2. Rescue hostages

Says that the Chief of Staff and the war cabinet have scheduled a start time.

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Note: Start time is not indicated in the tweet.
 
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Biden, asked about reports that more than 6K Palestinians have been killed in recent Israeli strikes, said he has "no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth" in stats released."I'm sure innocents have been killed," he adds.Figure is via Hamas-run health ministry.

 
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