Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

[Momoffourboys]

Thanks for the link.

From the article :
“Al Jazeera’s broadcasts and reports constitute incitement against Israel, help Hamas-ISIS and the terror organizations with their propaganda, and encourage violence against Israel,”
This makes it sound like AJ news is figuratively aiding Hamas ?
Contributing to the group who committed the attack on Oct. 7th ?
Omo.

Blinken Says He Asked Qatar to Change Al Jazeera’s Israel Coverage: Report​

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One source said Blinken said he’d asked the Qataris to “turn down the volume on Al Jazeera's coverage because it is full of anti-Israel incitement.
…

Blinken Asked Qatar to Change Outlet’s War Coverage: Report

He allegedly made the request to the Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Chimera]

October 25, 2023 Israel-Hamas war news

The main UN agency working in Gaza said it will be forced to halt its operations later Wednesday due to a lack of fuel, exacerbating a grave humanitarian crisis. Follow here for live news updates.

www.cnn.com

Updated 3:41 PM ET, Wed October 25, 2023

• The main UN agency working in Gaza said it will be forced to halt its operations later today due to a lack of fuel, exacerbating a grave humanitarian crisis.

Notice the date of this article.
If the hospitals are working and open today, then maybe there's no fuel shortage ?
If there is even one hospital not able to function, is this due to Hamas taking the supplies ?
It's Hamas' fault if this is inhumane, and not Israel's.

From their viewpoint, the terrorists are fighting a righteous, justified war, and any medical supplies will go to them first.

Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders discuss how to achieve 'victory'

The head of Lebanon's Hezbollah met top leaders of the Palestinian militant factions Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and discussed what their alliance must do to "achieve a real victory for the resistance", Hezbollah said on Wednesday. Part of an Iran-backed regional alliance, the heavily armed...

news.yahoo.com

BEIRUT (Reuters) - The head of Lebanon's Hezbollah met top leaders of the Palestinian militant factions Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and discussed what their alliance must do to "achieve a real victory for the resistance", Hezbollah said on Wednesday.
Emphasis mine.

Hamas are the inhumane ones, and are causing immense suffering to their own people.
Imo.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/israel-gaza-war-hostages-saturday-intl-hnk/index.html

The trucks entered through the Rafah crossing, the only entry point to Gaza not controlled by Israel, as seen by CNN’s team on the Palestinian side of the border. The crossing closed quickly after the 20 trucks went through.
Red bolding mine.
Re. the bolded ; is the crossing quickly closed so neither CNN's team nor the UNWRNA, can see whether or not Hamas seizes the contents of the trucks ?
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

Blinken Says He Asked Qatar to Change Al Jazeera’s Israel Coverage: Report​

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One source said Blinken said he’d asked the Qataris to “turn down the volume on Al Jazeera's coverage because it is full of anti-Israel incitement.
…

Blinken Asked Qatar to Change Outlet’s War Coverage: Report

He allegedly made the request to the Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani.

www.thedailybeast.com

Thanks for clarifying this.

 

[fred&edna]

Is there a Cliff notes explanation for why this Hamas leader was released from US prison AND remains free living in Qatar?? I've been doing so much homework of late my brain bank can't take another long history story atm

Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook - Wikipedia

Interesting podcast interview with him on Oct 11 about the atrocities Hamas committed.

An interview with a senior political leader of Hamas

Our editor-in-chief sits down with the deputy chairman of the militant group’s political bureau

www.economist.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717146986099392974

 

[Momoffourboys]

October 25, 2023 Israel-Hamas war news

The main UN agency working in Gaza said it will be forced to halt its operations later Wednesday due to a lack of fuel, exacerbating a grave humanitarian crisis. Follow here for live news updates.

www.cnn.com

Updated 3:41 PM ET, Wed October 25, 2023

• The main UN agency working in Gaza said it will be forced to halt its operations later today due to a lack of fuel, exacerbating a grave humanitarian crisis.

Notice the date of this article.
If the hospitals are working and open today, then maybe there's no fuel shortage ?
If there is even one hospital not able to function, is this due to Hamas taking the supplies ?
It's Hamas' fault if this is inhumane, and not Israel's.

From their viewpoint, the terrorists are fighting a righteous, justified war, and any medical supplies will go to them first.

Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders discuss how to achieve 'victory'

The head of Lebanon's Hezbollah met top leaders of the Palestinian militant factions Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and discussed what their alliance must do to "achieve a real victory for the resistance", Hezbollah said on Wednesday. Part of an Iran-backed regional alliance, the heavily armed...

news.yahoo.com

BEIRUT (Reuters) - The head of Lebanon's Hezbollah met top leaders of the Palestinian militant factions Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and discussed what their alliance must do to "achieve a real victory for the resistance", Hezbollah said on Wednesday.
Emphasis mine.

Hamas are the inhumane ones, and are causing immense suffering to their own people.
Imo.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/israel-gaza-war-hostages-saturday-intl-hnk/index.html

The trucks entered through the Rafah crossing, the only entry point to Gaza not controlled by Israel, as seen by CNN’s team on the Palestinian side of the border. The crossing closed quickly after the 20 trucks went through.
Red bolding mine.
Re. the bolded ; is the crossing quickly closed so neither CNN's team nor the UNWRNA, can see whether or not Hamas seizes the contents of the trucks ?
Omo.

IMO Everyone in Gaza is controlled by Hamas. The civilians, the hospitals, the press, the UN workers.
Hamas wants fuel and made it crystal clear. Every single day.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Israel's military tells UN in Gaza: ask Hamas for fuel​

UNITED NATIONS, Oct 24 (Reuters) - Israel's military suggested on Tuesday that the United Nations ask Hamas for fuel supplies after the U.N. agency providing aid to Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip warned it would have to halt operations on Wednesday night if no fuel was delivered.

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While there have been some limited deliveries of food, water and medicine since Saturday, no fuel has been allowed in. Israel is concerned about the possible diversion of fuel deliveries by Hamas and White House national security spokesman John Kirby on Tuesday described Israel's concerns as legitimate.

"We still believe, just in general, that fuel needs to be able to get in to the people of Gaza," he told reporters.

BBM

Israel's military tells UN in Gaza: ask Hamas for fuel

Israel's military suggested on Tuesday that the United Nations ask Hamas for fuel supplies after the U.N. agency providing aid to Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip warned it would have to halt operations on Wednesday night if no fuel was delivered.

www.reuters.com

 

[sds71]

Is there a Cliff notes explanation for why this Hamas leader was released from US prison AND remains free living in Qatar?? I've been doing so much homework of late my brain bank can't take another long history story atm

Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook - Wikipedia

Interesting podcast interview with him on Oct 11 about the atrocities Hamas committed.

An interview with a senior political leader of Hamas

Our editor-in-chief sits down with the deputy chairman of the militant group’s political bureau

www.economist.com

Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook, the political leader of the Hamas movement jailed in Manhattan for 22 months on suspicion of terrorism, was deported yesterday and flown to Jordan aboard a United States military jet.

His release ended what had become an embarrassing case for both the United States and Israel. Both nations had sought to keep him in jail, but did not come up with persuasive evidence of his complicity in a series of violent attacks by Hamas.

In an unusual agreement, Mr. Abu Marzook relinquished his permanent residence status in the United States and said he would not contest the terrorism accusations that had prompted his initial detention. In exchange, the United States released him from solitary confinement and allowed him to go to Jordan.

Terror Suspect Freed by U.S.; Flies to Jordan (Published 1997)

Mouse Mohammed Abu Marzook, political leader of Hamas movement jailed in Manhattan for 22 months on suspicion of terrorism, is deported to Jordan; release ends embarrassment for US and Israel, which had sought to prosecute him but failed to provide persuasive evidence of his complicity in series...

www.nytimes.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

DBM.
@sds71 beat me to it

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717115876254577041

 

[Chimera]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717115876254577041

Grrr...
So, even precious babies and the unborn are enemies ?
Sick !

 

[Friday Fan]

Is there a Cliff notes explanation for why this Hamas leader was released from US prison AND remains free living in Qatar?? I've been doing so much homework of late my brain bank can't take another long history story atm

Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook - Wikipedia

Interesting podcast interview with him on Oct 11 about the atrocities Hamas committed.

An interview with a senior political leader of Hamas

Our editor-in-chief sits down with the deputy chairman of the militant group’s political bureau

www.economist.com

Looks like Israel decided to drop extradition and possibly prosecution. He didn't have formal charges US against him. This happened in the 1990s. Without charges against him, they released him. (No evidence of a crime in the US at the time? He was likely arrested on behalf of Israel. Probably an Interpol thing MOO)

In 2004, a U.S. court indicted him in absentia for coordinating and financing Hamas activities. (But he was long gone by then)

Although someone is declared terrorist, they need to have actual prosecutable crimes committed in the US or against the US to be detained and tried. Sounds like when he was arrested, he had committed crimes in Israel, but not in the US. Israel didn't prosecute. After he was long gone, they found out he committed crimes in the US or with a US financial institution (he may have committed them via wire funds from overseas). So they indicted him

Also, in the 90's, Hamas was fairly new and may not have been on everyone's radar.

In the mid-1990s Marzook was arrested in JFK airport in the US, although no formal charges placed against him. Two months after his detainment, Israel filed a request for the United States to extradite him. Represented by Stanley L. Cohen,[8] he spent the following 2 years fighting his case in the court system, but the final decision was for his extradition, after which Israel dropped its extradition request. With no formal charges against him the United States released him, but not wanting him to remain, the United States contacted numerous Arab countries to allow Marzook residency. All refused, except Jordan, which reportedly agreed under U.S. pressure.

Marzook was listed as a Specially Designated Terrorist by the U.S. Treasury Department in 1995, and is currently on the renamed Treasury department Specially Designated National list under such alternative spellings of his name as Dr. Musa Abu-Marzuq, Sa'id Abu-Marzuq, Mousa Mohamed Abou Marzook, Musa Abu Marzouk, and Musa Abu Marzuk, and under the alias "Abu-'Umar."[9]

 

[Cryptic]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717146986099392974

As a side note, Bedouin Muslims, Circassian Muslims, and Druze (religion combines Islam, Judaism, and Christianity) have served in the IDF since it was founded. There are also a trickle of arab Muslim and Christian volunteers. At one time, Muslims in the IDF had their own distinct unit.

At the same time, Muslims and Christian Arabs in the IDF have the ability to "opt out" from serving in the West Bank and by extension, opt out from enforcing various occupation laws, regulations, and polices against Palestinians.

My understanding is that a significant majority of these soldiers take the "opt out". Instead, they are assigned to defend against external threats to Israel proper. This includes threats from Gaza and West Bank, but not in Gaza or in the West Bank.

 

[Friday Fan]

DBM.
@sds71 beat me to it

Yeah, me too. But I took too long to write a response..LOL
So, I'm after everyone else!

 

[Momoffourboys]

Mother of a hostage. Worth a watch.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717232174787625179

 

[Ontario Mom]

Grrr...
So, even precious babies and the unborn are enemies ?
Sick !

In their eyes, YES.
These people do not think like normal, decent human beings.
They're consumed by their idealogy to the point beheading a baby makes sense.

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717255428940177510

 

[fred&edna]

Yeah, me too. But I took too long to write a response..LOL
So, I'm after everyone else!

Thank you and @sds71 and @Momoffourboys and anyone who even thought of answering my question

 

[MyBelle]

Bbm.
Thanks for linking this !^^^

The article states this family was killed in an Israeli strike, but it doesn't say they were at a refugee camp ?
I have doubts that the IDF would target a refugee camp filled with civilians.
The IDF took time to warn people to evacuate and it boggles the mind that they'd target civilians.

What if Hamas didn't like what he was reporting and took his family out themselves ?
Re. the bolded : My .02 is that Hamas do not want anyone reporting anything close to the truth -- who are there on the streets of Gaza, so to speak.
This sounds somewhat sketch.
Omo.

BBM. I'm pretty sure Hamas air strikes are directed at Israel, not civilians in Gaza.

The reporter's family had evacuated and were targeted. Now, Israel is trying to shut-down Al Jazeera in Israel. I think that is why Sec. Blinken has asked Qatar to tone down the coverage. American news media are also reporting about air strikes on civilian homes in Gaza. U.S. news media needs to remain there.

JMO

Al Jazeera condemns killing of journalist Wael Al-Dahdouh’s family in Gaza

Media network condemns ‘indiscriminate assault’ by Israeli forces.

www.aljazeera.com

Their home was targeted in the Nuseirat camp in the centre of Gaza, where they had sought refuge after being displaced by the initial bombardment in their neighborhood, following Prime Minister Netanyahu’s call for all civilians to move south.

Al Jazeera is deeply concerned about the safety, and well-being of our colleagues in Gaza and hold the Israeli authorities responsible for their security.

Gov't approves emergency regulations that could pave way to closing Al Jazeera offices - The Times of Israel

Regulations cover foreign news channels; Karhi says Qatar-owned outlet has harmed national security; proposal to shutter outlet in Israel to be filed next week

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Friday Fan]

Bbm.
Thanks for linking this !^^^

The article states this family was killed in an Israeli strike, but it doesn't say they were at a refugee camp ?
I have doubts that the IDF would target a refugee camp filled with civilians.
The IDF took time to warn people to evacuate and it boggles the mind that they'd target civilians.

What if Hamas didn't like what he was reporting and took his family out themselves ?
Re. the bolded : My .02 is that Hamas do not want anyone reporting anything close to the truth -- who are there on the streets of Gaza, so to speak.
This sounds somewhat sketch.
Omo.

These refugee camps are high rise housing projects. They have been there forever. (Since 1948) People are born, raised and die there. It's entirely possible for Hamas to be in them. They were bombed last week. The "camps" are quite large.

Here is how it looked before it was bombed

Nuseirat refugee camp - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org